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VTM - Bloodlines unofficial patch 2.0 is finished...
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Werner Spahl - 13 Jan 2006 12:37 GMT ...and waiting to be made available for download by www.3dgamers.com from which it will be mirrored to the usual other sites like e.g. fileplanet!
I hope that although it is friday 13. ;) we don't get another corruption like with 1.9, and 2.0 also solves a big chinatown issue left over by that corruption even after the re-upload. Special thanks this time must go to RobinHood70 who did a great job checking all the dialogues against speech and subtitles and who fixed a lot of other bugs he detected while doing this! This patch will eventually be translated into french and for the first time into german too. For a list of all major changes see below:
v2.0 ---- All dialogues matched to speech and fixed thoroughly by RobinHood70. Repaired a lot of lines that were not audible to female characters. Removed Empire key after use and continued standardizing many names. Made Prince react to Persuasion for money when sending you to Ming. Restored additional lines of Jack, Imalia, Ming-Xiao and the cabbie. Fixed money bugs with Bill, Hatter, Heather, Misti and prostitutes. Made Empire clerk bisexual, responding to Seduction from either sex. Restored Ventrue specific Prince dialogue and more cut extra lines. Removed an exploit with Copper and fixed Jeanette taking your knife. Restored unused Nosferatu and Malkavian lines of Tseng and Wong Ho. Fixed possibility of Beckett not talking on return from the Society. Corrected bug caused by 1.9 corruption that broke Chinatown quests. Restored feeding on rats that would not work for some people in 1.9. Lessened MAC-10 kickback on firing with increasing firearms skills. Moved dance spot at club Confession because of the cross-zoom error. Made crossbow bolts purchasable sooner and added a doll easter egg. Provided baseball bat and tire iron to anyone skipping the tutorial. Corrected Hitman quest rewards and added peace-talk lines for both. Fixed problems with morphine quest and more after angering Mercurio. Cut exclamation of Nadia that was audible when she was not present. Removed the annoying sidetable in Gary's lair and hid two map holes. Changed wrong status display for the power of pump 118a in warrens.
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JYH - 13 Jan 2006 12:46 GMT > ...and waiting to be made available for download by www.3dgamers.com > from which it will be mirrored to the usual other sites like e.g. > fileplanet! Thanx for your hard work :-)
Werner Spahl - 13 Jan 2006 14:44 GMT > > ...and waiting to be made available for download by www.3dgamers.com > > from which it will be mirrored to the usual other sites like e.g. > > fileplanet! > > Thanx for your hard work :-) My pleasure! I got an email from Frans that it is already downloadable from www.3dgamers.com, so check it out if you still play this game ;).
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oceanclub - 13 Jan 2006 15:35 GMT >All dialogues matched to speech and fixed thoroughly by RobinHood70. Good work - I found merely correcting typoes/grammar, and not synching it with the voice files, was a huge job!
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Nostromo - 13 Jan 2006 20:00 GMT Tx big bucketloads Werner - you da man!!!
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Robert BL - 13 Jan 2006 20:08 GMT Werner -- Coincidentally I just bought this game today. Do I need to install previous patches before installing 2.0? Thanks,
Robert BL
> Tx big bucketloads Werner - you da man!!! Mark P. Nelson - 13 Jan 2006 20:30 GMT > Werner -- Coincidentally I just bought this game today. Do I need to > install previous patches before installing 2.0? Thanks, > > Robert BL You should use the official 1.2 patch first, then Werner's latest.
Best, Mark P. Nelson.
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Haplo - 13 Jan 2006 20:44 GMT >> Werner -- Coincidentally I just bought this game today. Do I need to >> install previous patches before installing 2.0? Thanks, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Best, > Mark P. Nelson. I also bought it a few days ago. Unfortunately it's a russian/english version. I can't find an official patch for that one. Does anybody know where to get it?
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Andrew - 13 Jan 2006 23:41 GMT >I also bought it a few days ago. Unfortunately it's a russian/english >version. I can't find an official patch for that one. Does anybody know >where to get it? 3dgamers.com should have it.
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Haplo - 14 Jan 2006 07:46 GMT >> I also bought it a few days ago. Unfortunately it's a russian/english >> version. I can't find an official patch for that one. Does anybody know >> where to get it? > > 3dgamers.com should have it. It doesn't. When I use that one it says it cannot determine the version. So I'll just apply this unofficial patch on the unpatched original and see if it works...
Haplo
Werner Spahl - 14 Jan 2006 18:23 GMT > It doesn't. When I use that one it says it cannot determine the > version. So I'll just apply this unofficial patch on the unpatched > original and see if it works... The only thing the official patch does is correcting some engine related stuff that we can't do on the unofficial side. Any game related bugs are probably corrected in 2.0 quite the same.
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Trimble Bracegirdle - 13 Jan 2006 23:43 GMT Install the official Patch 1st.... then just the latest one ver. 2.0 ...of Werner's ..you dont have to install all of werner's ..just most recent.. Mouse @@@
Trimble Bracegirdle - 13 Jan 2006 23:50 GMT Werner is the the most magic Bunny ever...he allways tell us; "...The meaning of my life is to make me crazy..." The amount of time he has spent with VTM must have driven him to that ambition by now ??? Werner that games details must be forever ingrained in you poor brain..perhaps you could sue the developers for the strain n stess ?? Luv Mouse...Vorlon's should allways be free (who ever they r) @@@
Werner Spahl - 14 Jan 2006 18:27 GMT > Werner that games details must be forever ingrained in you poor brain. Some of these surely are, but to be honest, I forget a lot of the older ones as soon as I concentrate on a new problem ;).
> Luv Mouse...Vorlon's should allways be free (who ever they r) Vorlons are a cool alien race in the great SF TV show Babylon 5 who used living ships, that may have been bound strongly to their owners ;).
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Xocyll - 14 Jan 2006 23:17 GMT Werner Spahl <spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:
>> Werner that games details must be forever ingrained in you poor brain. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Vorlons are a cool alien race in the great SF TV show Babylon 5 who used >living ships, that may have been bound strongly to their owners ;). I don't know about "cool". A race that goes around blowing up populated planets just because they have had some contact with the Shadows doesn't qualify as "cool" in my book. Totally f.cking psycho maybe, but not cool.
[Why yes, actually I am rewatching Babylon5 at the moment, half way through season 4 at this point.]
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Highlandish - 15 Jan 2006 01:06 GMT Quoth The Raven; Xocyll <Xocyll@kingston.net> in <te1js1tefmpr8ie74k3qblj0td7jvetp0i@4ax.com>
> Werner Spahl <spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de> looked up from reading the > entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Xocyll get hold of and watch StarWreck: The Pirkening. they have a Vorlon scene that will have you pissing yourself in no time.
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Xocyll - 15 Jan 2006 11:41 GMT "Highlandish" <ckreskay_CURSEING@dodo.com.au> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:
>Quoth The Raven; Xocyll <Xocyll@kingston.net> in ><te1js1tefmpr8ie74k3qblj0td7jvetp0i@4ax.com> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >get hold of and watch StarWreck: The Pirkening. they have a Vorlon scene >that will have you pissing yourself in no time. I actually have that, I just haven't got round to actually watching the whole thing - having to read subtitles to understand anything is kind of a bummer and the main reason I haven't got round to it.
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Andrew - 15 Jan 2006 11:59 GMT >>get hold of and watch StarWreck: The Pirkening. they have a Vorlon scene >>that will have you pissing yourself in no time. > >I actually have that, I just haven't got round to actually watching the >whole thing - having to read subtitles to understand anything is kind of >a bummer and the main reason I haven't got round to it. I got about halfway through it and gave up. The film has some good potential but is in bad need of some major pruning (preferably by someone outside of the project), it is just too long and drawn out.
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Shawk - 15 Jan 2006 12:21 GMT >>>get hold of and watch StarWreck: The Pirkening. they have a Vorlon scene >>>that will have you pissing yourself in no time. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > potential but is in bad need of some major pruning (preferably by > someone outside of the project), it is just too long and drawn out. I watched the whole thing in somewhat sick fascination. Totally agree that it desperately needs some decent editing. Was pretty amazed by some of the FX work. Perhaps half a dozen laugh out loud moments. The makers have potential.
Highlandish - 15 Jan 2006 13:14 GMT Quoth The Raven; Xocyll <Xocyll@kingston.net> in <a3dks1hgj2tfg10682bidobcdjgp7dd99v@4ax.com>
> "Highlandish" <ckreskay_CURSEING@dodo.com.au> looked up from reading > the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > Xocyll its the funniest movie in a long time, regardless of what language its in.
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Werner Spahl - 16 Jan 2006 13:56 GMT > "Highlandish" <ckreskay_CURSEING@dodo.com.au> looked up from reading the > entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > whole thing - having to read subtitles to understand anything is kind of > a bummer and the main reason I haven't got round to it. There is not much to understand about Pirkenning. It's just a big spoof of ST and B5 including blown up fights like the www.spacebattles.com movies.
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Werner Spahl - 16 Jan 2006 12:10 GMT > A race that goes around blowing up populated planets just because they > have had some contact with the Shadows doesn't qualify as "cool" in my I didn't want to spoil anything of the storyline and meant "cool" only in the sense of "cool" living ships and "cool" special effects all around ;)!
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HockeyTownUSA - 15 Jan 2006 14:45 GMT Too bad I sold my copy months ago... It's this kind of crap that I hate. I play a game that should be great but ends up being a POS because of bugs, you hold onto it thinking it'll be patched, and then it just sits there collecting dust so you figure you might as well make a few bucks off it while its still worth something. Then a year later they decide to patch it appropriately.
It's one thing if a game has minor glitches that need to be fixed, but between this and Far Cry (which I couldn't get running until patch 1.3 btw) that irritatates me and makes me want to wait a year before buying the game.
Anyhow, I digress.
John Lewis - 16 Jan 2006 00:05 GMT >Too bad I sold my copy months ago... It's this kind of crap that I hate. I >play a game that should be great but ends up being a POS because of bugs, >you hold onto it thinking it'll be patched, and then it just sits there >collecting dust so you figure you might as well make a few bucks off it >while its still worth something. Then a year later they decide to patch it >appropriately. "they" in this case is NOT the developers ( beyond 1.2 ). It is our own Werner and his friends. We are very grateful. Werner and his friends are probably directly responsible for additional sales of VTM. I hope that Activision notices and volunteers some monetary compensation.
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>It's one thing if a game has minor glitches that need to be fixed, but >between this and Far Cry (which I couldn't get running until patch 1.3 btw) >that irritatates me and makes me want to wait a year before buying the game. > >Anyhow, I digress. Olaf - 16 Jan 2006 00:40 GMT > I hope that Activision notices and volunteers some monetary > compensation. If this happens, check the temperature in hell.
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Werner Spahl - 16 Jan 2006 12:21 GMT > "they" in this case is NOT the developers ( beyond 1.2 ). It is our > own Werner and his friends. We are very grateful. Werner and his > friends are probably directly responsible for additional sales of VTM. The patches were started by Dan Upright right after the release of VTMB, so instead of selling his copy, the original poster should have searched the web. I don't know if there is another game with so many patches ;)!
> I hope that Activision notices and volunteers some monetary > compensation. They never contacted any of us, as far as I know, but this is fine by me. I do it for fun :).
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Craig Hulett - 16 Jan 2006 13:24 GMT >> "they" in this case is NOT the developers ( beyond 1.2 ). It is our >> own Werner and his friends. We are very grateful. Werner and his [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > They never contacted any of us, as far as I know, but this is fine by > me. I do it for fun :). Werner, any idea if and when all this work of yours will be 'done'? Are you thinking about what needs to go into 2.1? <g>
-craig
Werner Spahl - 16 Jan 2006 14:04 GMT > Werner, any idea if and when all this work of yours will be 'done'? Are you > thinking about what needs to go into 2.1? <g> We would like to include the cut histories in the next patch, also everything else that we find in the meantime.
But I do hope that we find less and less stuff that we can fix and that there will be an end to it some day ;)...
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John Lewis - 16 Jan 2006 21:13 GMT >> Werner, any idea if and when all this work of yours will be 'done'? Are you >> thinking about what needs to go into 2.1? <g> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >But I do hope that we find less and less stuff that we can fix and that >there will be an end to it some day ;)... And when you get there, you could open up discussions with Activision about VTM:B Gold............. ?
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Toby Newman - 18 Jan 2006 11:25 GMT > ...and waiting to be made available for download by www.3dgamers.com from > which it will be mirrored to the usual other sites like e.g. fileplanet! Thanks for the work. I have bought this game but am waiting for your 'final' release before I install it. Hopefully by then my PC will be powerful enough to play it on max settings too!
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oceanclub - 27 Jan 2006 12:30 GMT I was amazed to see that on play.com, Bloodlines is back up at no. 5 in the PC charts, ahead of World of Warcraft, the BF2 expansion pack, and The Movies! (admittedly at a budget price) I can't help but think that Werner's unofficial patch has something to do with this, by keeping the game in the spotlight and by encouraging those originally put off by the bugs to take a chance. It would be nice to see Activision give _some_ recognition to him. And I wonder if, anywhere, there's any talk of a sequel: if a bug-ridden game could eventually do so well, imagine how a near-flawless game would be received?
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Werner Spahl - 27 Jan 2006 13:49 GMT > I was amazed to see that on play.com, Bloodlines is back up at no. 5 in > the PC charts, ahead of World of Warcraft, the BF2 expansion pack, and > The Movies! (admittedly at a budget price) I can't help but think that > Werner's unofficial patch has something to do with this, by keeping the Great to hear about this because there are still new small bugs creeping out that need to be fixed and I'm glad, I'm not doing it in vain ;)! This game is so complex, it's no wonder it gives possibilities to so many bugs. Often I never even considered the option, which someone mails me a about.
> the bugs to take a chance. It would be nice to see Activision give > _some_ recognition to him. And I wonder if, anywhere, there's any talk As someone else already stated here, hell will freeze over before ;). Even the Troika guys never said anything about the unofficial patches AFAIK...
> of a sequel: if a bug-ridden game could eventually do so well, imagine > how a near-flawless game would be received? Problems are that you need a really great team like Troika was AND some really good playtesting. Also the WOD was ended by White Wolf already.
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Michael Cecil - 27 Jan 2006 22:10 GMT >> I was amazed to see that on play.com, Bloodlines is back up at no. 5 in >> the PC charts, ahead of World of Warcraft, the BF2 expansion pack, and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >game is so complex, it's no wonder it gives possibilities to so many bugs. >Often I never even considered the option, which someone mails me a about. Have you ever heard from any of the Troika team members?
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Werner Spahl - 31 Jan 2006 10:22 GMT > Have you ever heard from any of the Troika team members? Nope. I don't bother about Activision for the fear, once they notice the popularity of the game, they would try to stop us doing the patches, but hearing from Troika would be nice and we could use their tips a lot ;)!
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