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Is FEAR supposed to be scary ???
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Boris Easten - 25 Dec 2005 13:25 GMT Its not scary to me. Dull yes, scary no !!!
I think iam nearly finished now. Amd iam just using GOD mode most of the time when something even moderatly hardish comes up. I just cant be bothered trying to beat i.
It all looks the same. the plot is just the same with different people all though the game :(
All the battles are the same. The graphics and locations are the same.
Dont hate it. But its a bore. And i can realy say if i did not finish it i would not care.
I vote this game as the worst game of 2005. Just becuase its so boring. Not bad but boring is bad right ?
Oh well.
Mils Michael - 25 Dec 2005 15:15 GMT > Its not scary to me. Dull yes, scary no !!! The last levels are indeed scary. But heh, you need to get there.
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Smart Feet - 25 Dec 2005 15:58 GMT > I vote this game as the worst game of 2005. Just becuase its so > boring. Not bad but boring is bad right ? Yes, you are right.
House of Brutus - 25 Dec 2005 16:34 GMT >Its not scary to me. Dull yes, scary no !!! > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >Oh well. This is the year of boring FPS's. Apart from HL2 I felt the same as you do about both Doom3 and Quake4. Next year I'm going to be very selective about what games I do buy because I'm sick of wasting my money on crap games. I demand a refund! -- Rosebud...
StreetMedic - 25 Dec 2005 16:58 GMT >>Its not scary to me. Dull yes, scary no !!! >> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > -- > Rosebud... Bleh.
I often find myself wondering why some people bother "gaming" at all.
Bleeding-edge graphics in some games are dismissed as "sucky graphics".
Great stories in some games are dismissed with "sucky story" comments.
Frighteningly competent AI in some games is dismissed by saying "sucky AI".
Clearly these folks are never going to be happy with any product they buy. It's too bad for them, too, since most of the time it's their own fault they're missing out:
Are they merely inclined to find fault with absolutely any game they play?
Are they simply not equipped with a knowledge-base which allows them to realize you can't play today's A-list games on yesterday's system, and still have the experience the developer intended?
Do most of these amateur critics (the sort of mamalukes who go to EBGames.com and Amazon.com and write reviews for games that haven't been f-cking released yet: "This game look so kEwL it will totully rawk!!!!!!!!!!") even *know* the damn difference between a good or bad game effort, in the first place?
Whatever. I for one, enjoyed FEAR, HL2, Doom 3, Deus Ex 2, Thief 3, etc., etc., and if you don't like it: lump it.
Shawk - 25 Dec 2005 17:50 GMT > Whatever. I for one, enjoyed FEAR, HL2, Doom 3, Deus Ex 2, Thief 3, > etc., etc., and if you don't like it: lump it. Got FEAR today (present from the kids). So far I'm having a lot of fun. AI is excellent. Graphics are great. Not bored at all. If you like this type of game try Q4. Great fun.
Knocking off from FEAR for an hour now for a few beers and I'll be trying AOEIII later. Last 18months or so have been great for gamers.
House of Brutus - 25 Dec 2005 18:30 GMT > and I'll be trying >AOEIII later. Another crap RTS twitch fest. <yawn>
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Shawk - 25 Dec 2005 20:34 GMT >> and I'll be trying >>AOEIII later. > > Another crap RTS twitch fest. <yawn> Another psuedo gaming intellectual? <yawn>
House of Brutus - 26 Dec 2005 18:59 GMT >Another psuedo gaming intellectual? <yawn> You have AOEIII? I borrowed it from a friend and I know it's crap. If you've never played it then just STFU.
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Shawk - 26 Dec 2005 19:12 GMT >>Another psuedo gaming intellectual? <yawn> > > You have AOEIII? I borrowed it from a friend and I know it's crap. If > you've never played it then just STFU. Ah, you sound upset. I've played it. I own and have played the previous games too. Borrowed it from a friend? How long for? Long enough to learn how to play? Why is it crap? It's crap compared to what? Give some detail other than meaningless throwaway one-liners
House of Brutus - 27 Dec 2005 03:34 GMT >Ah, you sound upset. I've played it. I own and have played the previous >games too. Borrowed it from a friend? How long for? Long enough to learn >how to play? Why is it crap? It's crap compared to what? Give some detail >other than meaningless throwaway one-liners I still have it. It's just another same old, same old, RTS game. Gather and build and attack over their, zzzzz. There is no innovation in this industry any more. It's just a rehash of sequels. If that is enough to please you then have a it. I expect more though.
-- Rosebud...
Shawk - 27 Dec 2005 10:08 GMT >>Ah, you sound upset. I've played it. I own and have played the previous >>games too. Borrowed it from a friend? How long for? Long enough to [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > in this industry any more. It's just a rehash of sequels. If that is > enough to please you then have a it. I expect more though. That may be true - I'm not deep enough into it yet to comment. I wondered if, as you borrowed a copy, you'd got very deep into it.
AOEII was/is a keeper on my PC, a game I can and do keep going back to. I'm hoping AOEIII is the same. There are lots of complaints in here about innovation - trouble is when someone does innovate (like maybe Darwinia or Rag Doll Kung Fu) lots of folk complain about that too. I have both those and innovation is great. Keeping what I love about certain games in a series is good too.
me@home.net - 27 Dec 2005 21:58 GMT >>Ah, you sound upset. I've played it. I own and have played the previous >>games too. Borrowed it from a friend? How long for? Long enough to learn [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >in this industry any more. It's just a rehash of sequels. If that is >enough to please you then have a it. I expect more though. Like what ?
Mister Hand - 28 Dec 2005 05:48 GMT > >>Ah, you sound upset. I've played it. I own and have played the previous > >>games too. Borrowed it from a friend? How long for? Long enough to learn [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Like what? <crickets chirping>
Walter Mitty - 28 Dec 2005 13:35 GMT "Mister Hand" risked the wrath of Usenet weenies when he ventured forth on 2005-12-28, commmitted his life to the whims of Google, and espoused:
>> >>Ah, you sound upset. I've played it. I own and have played the previous >> >>games too. Borrowed it from a friend? How long for? Long enough to learn [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > ><crickets chirping> Standard response to "me@home" : friend of Nostromos :-;
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Mister Hand - 30 Dec 2005 00:18 GMT > "Mister Hand" risked the wrath of Usenet weenies when he ventured forth > on 2005-12-28, commmitted his life to the whims of Google, and espoused: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Standard response to "me@home" : friend of Nostromos :-; Actually I think it was a legitimate question. I've noticed there still hasn't been a response, even though he's revisited the thread.
Perhaps he has no answers. Arf, arf, arf.
House of Brutus - 30 Dec 2005 09:07 GMT >Actually I think it was a legitimate question. I've noticed there >still hasn't been a response, even though he's revisited the thread. No, I didn't answer it because the onus is not on me to come up with an idea for an innovative game. I'm not a game developer. Are you expected to come up with a better idea for a movie if you criticze one? It was a ridiculous question and wasn't worthy of a response.
Mister Hand - 30 Dec 2005 16:57 GMT > >Actually I think it was a legitimate question. I've noticed there > >still hasn't been a response, even though he's revisited the thread. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > expected to come up with a better idea for a movie if you criticze > one? It was a ridiculous question and wasn't worthy of a response. I would certainly have ideas on how to make a movie better after I'd seen it if I didn't care for it. The question was legitimate, you just don't have a worthwhile response.
House of Brutus - 31 Dec 2005 00:15 GMT >I would certainly have ideas on how to make a movie better after I'd >seen it if I didn't care for it. The question was legitimate, you just >don't have a worthwhile response. How's this? Bollocks to you and the rest of your band of merry morons.
It can take weeks/months to come up with a layout for a new and innovative game and to expect me to come up with one in a quick post is just plain stupid. Now, f.ck off.
StreetMedic - 31 Dec 2005 01:42 GMT >>I would certainly have ideas on how to make a movie better after I'd >>seen it if I didn't care for it. The question was legitimate, you just [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > innovative game and to expect me to come up with one in a quick post > is just plain stupid. Now, f.ck off. You're being intentionally difficult.
Clearly, anyone who says, "lunch sucked", can follow that up, if they're not a "merry moron".
It goes something like this (in case you've never actually experienced it firsthand):
"Lunch sucked."
"Why?"
"It was too salty."
or
"It was cold."
or
"The bread was stale."
or any other freaking *intelligent* detail you could think to offer up.
But, "lunch sucked."
"Why?"
"HOW THE f.ck AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW? I'M NOT A GODDAMN CHEF YOU FRIGGIN' POOPYHEAD! IT TAKES FIFTEEN MINUTES TO PREPARE LUNCH, AND YOU EXPECT ME TO JUST COME UP WITH A REASON WHY I THINK IT SUCKED IN ONE QUICK SENTENCE??!! f.ck OFF!!"
is just psychotic.
But you knew that already, anyway.
Mister Hand - 31 Dec 2005 05:30 GMT > >I would certainly have ideas on how to make a movie better after I'd > >seen it if I didn't care for it. The question was legitimate, you just [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > innovative game and to expect me to come up with one in a quick post > is just plain stupid. Now, f.ck off. What you write is true but, as has been pointed out, deals with a question that wasn't asked. Someone else has pegged you correctly; a pseudo-intellectual gamer. Mind you, the more you write, the less the 'intellectual' label applies.
House of Brutus - 31 Dec 2005 10:12 GMT >What you write is true but, as has been pointed out, deals with a >question that wasn't asked. Someone else has pegged you correctly; a >pseudo-intellectual gamer. Mind you, the more you write, the less the >'intellectual' label applies. Hey, that reminds of a crappy song by the ever so crappy Phil Collins. Pseu-pseu-pseudioooo...
Shawk - 30 Dec 2005 18:49 GMT >>Actually I think it was a legitimate question. I've noticed there >>still hasn't been a response, even though he's revisited the thread. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > expected to come up with a better idea for a movie if you criticze > one? It was a ridiculous question and wasn't worthy of a response. Always been taught to give a solution NOT a problem. I've always passed that on when training others. Works well in our business. Otherwise folk just sound like they're whinging.
Anyway - read the thread again. You said you were expecting more. You were asked what you were expecting. You was not being asked for innovation. Surely you must have some idea what you were expecting?
Sean Cousins - 31 Dec 2005 00:18 GMT >Always been taught to give a solution NOT a problem. I've always passed >that on when training others. Works well in our business. Otherwise folk [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >asked what you were expecting. You was not being asked for innovation. >Surely you must have some idea what you were expecting? Yea, more than just run and gun. Something along the lines of Splinter Cell for example. Next game I'm looking forward to that is most likely more than the usual FPS is the next Hitman game.
Shawk - 31 Dec 2005 02:16 GMT >>Always been taught to give a solution NOT a problem. I've always passed >>that on when training others. Works well in our business. Otherwise folk [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Cell for example. Next game I'm looking forward to that is most likely > more than the usual FPS is the next Hitman game. In the post I was replying to above we'd moved on to Age of Empires III ;-)
However, coming back to FEAR I'm still plowing through it and still enjoying it. I like 'run and gun' if it's done well - sometimes you dont get time to play games that need thought and strategy, you just wanna shoot something. FEAR does this pretty well. Game I'm still holding out hope for however is Stalker: Shadow of Chernobyl. If they ever sort the AI probs this game will be a hell of a breakthrough...
Smart Feet - 27 Dec 2005 05:22 GMT >>>Another psuedo gaming intellectual? <yawn> >>> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > how to play? Why is it crap? It's crap compared to what? Give some detail > other than meaningless throwaway one-liners I'll chime in on this one. I'm a huge fan of the AOE games, but I've been disappointed by AOE 3 because they can't get the "attack-move" command to work! That's a very BASIC function in a RTS nowadays. They disabled it in the latest patch. You can re-enable it manually, but they say it is an unsupported feature (and it is quite flakey).
They definitely spent too much time on the graphics if they can't get that to work yet...
Shawk - 27 Dec 2005 10:08 GMT > I'll chime in on this one. I'm a huge fan of the AOE games, but I've been > disappointed by AOE 3 because they can't get the "attack-move" command to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > They definitely spent too much time on the graphics if they can't get that > to work yet... That's a bummer :-( I'll have to lurk around the forum over there and see what's up... ta.
steamless gamer - 27 Dec 2005 08:44 GMT > I borrowed it from a friend and I know it's crap. If you've borrowing pc games in a time of lower sales and lower profits is damaging for this market and consequently for us all
if you want to try before buying always use the playable demo
buy your own copy of the pc games you play and with this you are supporting this industry and investing in its future
only buying the current available titles can you expect new quality titles to be released in the future
Sean Cousins - 28 Dec 2005 00:41 GMT >borrowing pc games in a time of lower sales and lower profits >is damaging for this market and consequently for us all [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >only buying the current available titles can you expect new >quality titles to be released in the future You never borrow a music cd or book from a friend? How about a DVD? Why are games any different?
steamless gamer - 28 Dec 2005 06:35 GMT > You never borrow a music cd or book from a friend? How > about a DVD? Why are games any different? let me give you a fiction example so i can try and explain my point of view... suppose you have a friend that is crazy about the quake games and you know he already played the quake 4 demo and he obsoletely loved it but he still hasn't bought it. and suppose you bought quake4 for yourself and applied the latest official patch that removes copy protection, so now you don't need the cd/dvd inserted to be able to play and you tell your friend about it and how enjoyable has been playing quake4 your friend then asks you too lend your own copy of quake4 to him so he can install and play it in my opinion you shouldn't lend quake4 to your friend but instead ask him to buy his own copy and help him find the best possible deal this should be the best for you, for him and for us all why do i think you lending him would be wrong? 1. your friend likes quake4 and will play it for many hours so it is my believe your friend should give some financial reward for those people that worked hard in giving him so much entertaining gaming time 2. quake4 is one of the vary rare pc game titles released in 2005 with no copy protection and if we complain about all the disadvantages of copy protection we should at least protect the few titles that don't have it cause if quake4 has less sales cause it has no copy protection you bet no other publisher or pc game title will do the same 3. every time you are buying a pc game you are financing the creation of more future games, so buying quake4 is a way to make sure id will stay in business and do other great titles in the future 4. piracy is a very big problem in pc games so everything we can do to show developers and publishers we do respect their work and want to pay for our games is a positive sign saying we are here to help pc games being better 5. pc games have been declining in sales and profits due to piracy but also due to console competition and if we want to still have the pc as a important gaming platform we must make sure it stays profitable, cause if pc games are no longer profitable they simply don't have a future
sorry for the long message but i only wanted to give you my opinion now you act the way you feel is right for you for me the most important is pc gamers having freedom to be able too choose what is best for them and sometimes the best for them is also the best for others it's in our own interest as pc gamers to protect pc games and protecting pc games is making sure the people that do work in creating pc games receive financial reward yes you can lend and borrow and i do believe you should have that freedom but i also believe pc gamers should be responsible and understand they have a role and a very important one, the role of protecting and financing the people that work hard to create pc games
i want the freedom to be able to lend and borrow pc games but i choose to not use it cause at this moment in time pc games need us to lend and borrow less and buy more
look at this very important difference, i do want to have the freedom to be able to lend and borrow but that does not mean i will use it always, and now and with quake4 for example i decided to not use it you fortunately also have that freedom and that choice so you choose what you feel is best but always remember now you have that choice, id gave you the power to choose and the freedom but think about the future and think about in the future this freedom no longer being available
i'm totally against imposing models and forcing pc gamers into situations they don't like and that is way when a developer comes and gives me the freedom too choose like id is giving me i want to thank them back by protecting their games
redTed - 28 Dec 2005 16:46 GMT and, last but not least.
6. End up with no friends like Mr.SK
Sean Cousins - 28 Dec 2005 22:08 GMT >let me give you a fiction example so i can try and explain >my point of view... I didn't bother reading your point of view as it was too long and a waste of my time. If you want to get a point across on usenet try to be as brief about it as possible. I will lend games to whomever I please and I will also borrow games whenever I please.
Shawk - 29 Dec 2005 00:59 GMT >>let me give you a fiction example so i can try and explain >>my point of view... [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > be as brief about it as possible. I will lend games to whomever I > please and I will also borrow games whenever I please. Do you have the Doom3 expansion and can I borrow it?...
;-)
steamless gamer - 29 Dec 2005 08:23 GMT > Do you have the Doom3 expansion and can I borrow it?... first i would swear you already bought roe... but i guess i'm wrong (so you have bought a rare doom3 first edition in dvd but you don't have roe?) second i don't see you as a pc gamer that pirates at least until now... and i hope this will not change third roe is now so cheap (i remember you liking play.com service and they have roe for as low as 4.99) fourth if you were my friend and you ask me to lend one of my roe units i would say no, but i wouldn't want to lose a friend so i would buy a new copy and give it to you if a friend of mine asks me something i will be glad to help him but i will always do it in a way that will not damage my other friends, in this case a dear friend of mine calle id software
Shawk - 29 Dec 2005 09:42 GMT >> Do you have the Doom3 expansion and can I borrow it?... > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > other friends, in this case a dear friend of mine calle id > software The smilie (which you snipped) means it was a joke....
Sean Cousins - 29 Dec 2005 09:43 GMT >Do you have the Doom3 expansion and can I borrow it?... > >;-) Sorry, don't have it, otherwise, I would lend it to you.
Shawk - 29 Dec 2005 10:56 GMT >>Do you have the Doom3 expansion and can I borrow it?... >> >>;-) > > Sorry, don't have it, otherwise, I would lend it to you. S'Ok thanks. I'll d-load it
Walter Mitty - 29 Dec 2005 11:45 GMT "Shawk" risked the wrath of Usenet weenies mastering mommies computer when he ventured forth on 2005-12-29, commmitted his life to the whims of Google, and spluttered:
>>>Do you have the Doom3 expansion and can I borrow it?... >>> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > S'Ok thanks. I'll d-load it Stop winding SK up : I did and Nostromo made a wax model out of me and started sticking pins in it. He get "heartily sick" of my constant "flaming and trolling" or something. I wouldnt like to see you do the same.
Can you send me the torrent link please? ...
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Sean Cousins - 29 Dec 2005 23:28 GMT >S'Ok thanks. I'll d-load it Good idea.
steamless gamer - 29 Dec 2005 06:33 GMT > will lend games to whomever I please and I will also borrow > games whenever I please. you will lend/borrow as long as the developers and publishers give you the freedom to do it
there are already developers and publishers that don't give you that freedom and restrict and limit the way you can use the game you own
two examples are games with steam or a game like earth 2160
if you want to lend a game with steam you have to give your friend your own username and password and you must also stop playing any of the games you have in your steam account cause steam will monitor you and see if you and your friend are using the same username account at the same time
if you want to lend a game like earth 2160 that has a product activation based on hardware so you can only activate your game in 4 different pcs... you install in your own pc, and lend to 3 friend and you will no longer be able to play the game in a different machine, for example if you need to upgrade your own computer you will no longer be able to play the game you bought in that new hardware
so never forget if you now can lend/borrow it's cause the developers and publishers let you do it, so don't abuse this freedom you have now cause in future they might change ideas and do different like steam and earth 2160 are doing now
House of Brutus - 25 Dec 2005 18:29 GMT > Whatever. I for one, enjoyed FEAR, HL2, Doom 3, Deus Ex 2, Thief 3, >etc., etc., and if you don't like it: lump it. Maybe you just have low standards? Simpletons are easy to please.
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Shawk - 25 Dec 2005 20:10 GMT >> Whatever. I for one, enjoyed FEAR, HL2, Doom 3, Deus Ex 2, Thief 3, >>etc., etc., and if you don't like it: lump it. > > Maybe you just have low standards? Simpletons are easy to please. Ah, another gaming guru. Please do enlighten us as to a high standard game...
House of Brutus - 26 Dec 2005 19:00 GMT >Ah, another gaming guru. Please do enlighten us as to a high standard >game... The only good game he mentioned was Thief3. Now once again, STFU.
-- Rosebud...
Shawk - 26 Dec 2005 19:25 GMT >>Ah, another gaming guru. Please do enlighten us as to a high standard >>game... > > The only good game he mentioned was Thief3. Now once again, STFU. No detail again. Once again, what are examples of high standard games?
Mother Farquhar - 26 Dec 2005 21:01 GMT >>Ah, another gaming guru. Please do enlighten us as to a high standard >>game... > > The only good game he mentioned was Thief3. Now once again, STFU. Thought Thief 3 was just a dumbed down newbie kiddie's console game?
House of Brutus - 27 Dec 2005 03:36 GMT >Thought Thief 3 was just a dumbed down newbie kiddie's console game? Are you making a statment or asking a question? Make up your mind troll.
-- Rosebud...
StreetMedic - 26 Dec 2005 16:10 GMT >> Whatever. I for one, enjoyed FEAR, HL2, Doom 3, Deus Ex 2, Thief 3, >>etc., etc., and if you don't like it: lump it. > > Maybe you just have low standards? Simpletons are easy to please. Yeh, maybe. But, in the meantime, who's having more fun?
House of Brutus - 26 Dec 2005 19:04 GMT > Yeh, maybe. But, in the meantime, who's having more fun? I will concede that point. And I do agree that Thief3 is a good game but the others you listed are not. I guess i've become jaded about games in general. Like Hollywood movies, the gaming industry mostly exists to seperate your money from your wallet.
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Mister Hand - 28 Dec 2005 05:50 GMT > > Yeh, maybe. But, in the meantime, who's having more fun? > > I will concede that point. And I do agree that Thief3 is a good game > but the others you listed are not. I guess i've become jaded about > games in general. Like Hollywood movies, the gaming industry mostly > exists to seperate your money from your wallet. Yeah. I miss the good ol' days when they were all in it to cure cancer.
Shawk - 28 Dec 2005 10:53 GMT >> > Yeh, maybe. But, in the meantime, who's having more fun? >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Yeah. I miss the good ol' days when they were all in it to cure cancer. LOL (coffee dripping through nose)
House of Brutus - 29 Dec 2005 09:53 GMT >LOL (coffee dripping through nose) arf, arf, arf. He's almost as funny as Jerry Seinfeld.
Jim Vieira - 29 Dec 2005 09:52 GMT > >LOL (coffee dripping through nose) > > > arf, arf, arf. He's almost as funny as Jerry Seinfeld. Nah.. it was pretty funny, but not quite *that* funny. *wink*
Mean_Chlorine - 30 Dec 2005 00:31 GMT Thusly "Jim Vieira" <WhiplashrAT@wiDOT.rrDOT.com> Spake Unto All:
>> >LOL (coffee dripping through nose) >> > >> arf, arf, arf. He's almost as funny as Jerry Seinfeld. > >Nah.. it was pretty funny, but not quite *that* funny. *wink* Jerry Seinfeld is funny?! Damn, when did this happen? Last I saw him he was still serving the same simultaneously pointless and harmless drivel about nothing he always has.
<Considers>
Or... how do you mean 'funny'?
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Walter Mitty - 28 Dec 2005 13:36 GMT "Mister Hand" risked the wrath of Usenet weenies when he ventured forth on 2005-12-28, commmitted his life to the whims of Google, and espoused:
>> > Yeh, maybe. But, in the meantime, who's having more fun? >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Yeah. I miss the good ol' days when they were all in it to cure cancer. Heh! Good one.
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Boris Easten - 28 Dec 2005 15:28 GMT Microsoft havenever given up for the cure for caner. They are still looking.
>"Mister Hand" risked the wrath of Usenet weenies when he ventured forth >on 2005-12-28, commmitted his life to the whims of Google, and espoused: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Heh! Good one. Walter Mitty - 28 Dec 2005 15:29 GMT "Boris Easten" risked the wrath of Usenet weenies when he ventured forth on 2005-12-28, commmitted his life to the whims of Google, and espoused:
>>"Mister Hand" risked the wrath of Usenet weenies when he ventured forth >>on 2005-12-28, commmitted his life to the whims of Google, and espoused: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> >>Heh! Good one. *top posting corrected*
> Microsoft havenever given up for the cure for caner. They are still > looking. <sound of crickets and mic feedback with odd embarassed cough from audience>
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House of Brutus - 29 Dec 2005 09:50 GMT >Yeah. I miss the good ol' days when they were all in it to cure cancer. arf, arf, arf. How about when they were in it because they liked making games and not because some big shithouse publisher only cared about making a buck?
Mister Hand - 29 Dec 2005 18:23 GMT > >Yeah. I miss the good ol' days when they were all in it to cure cancer. > > arf, arf, arf. How about when they were in it because they liked > making games and not because some big shithouse publisher only cared > about making a buck? Examples?
Xocyll - 26 Dec 2005 15:01 GMT "StreetMedic" <zhyvaxxeSPAMMERJAMMER@comcast.net> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say: <snip>
> Bleh. > > I often find myself wondering why some people bother "gaming" at all. You just have to translate what "sucky" means.
> Bleeding-edge graphics in some games are dismissed as "sucky graphics". The graphics weren't what I wanted. Cartoon when they wanted realistic, realistic when they wanted cartoon, etc.
> Great stories in some games are dismissed with "sucky story" comments. The story required that they read more than one paragraph during the game.
> Frighteningly competent AI in some games is dismissed by saying "sucky >AI". The AI is kicking their a.s even when they cheat.
> Clearly these folks are never going to be happy with any product they >buy. It's too bad for them, too, since most of the time it's their own >fault they're missing out:
> Are they merely inclined to find fault with absolutely any game they >play? They always seem to be in search of "the one perfect game" according to their tastes, and since they haven't hired a developer to make that "one perfect game" it's unlikely it will ever get made.
> Are they simply not equipped with a knowledge-base which allows them to >realize you can't play today's A-list games on yesterday's system, and still [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >rawk!!!!!!!!!!") even *know* the damn difference between a good or bad game >effort, in the first place? Of course not - they write reviews to be seen and feel like they somehow matter and are influencing other people.
This is that same kind of person who posts on web forums and actually cares that he gets different titles according to his post count because that's the only kind of achievement/acknowledgement he gets in life.
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Mean_Chlorine - 26 Dec 2005 16:05 GMT Thusly "StreetMedic" <zhyvaxxeSPAMMERJAMMER@comcast.net> Spake Unto All:
> I often find myself wondering why some people bother "gaming" at all. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Frighteningly competent AI in some games is dismissed by saying "sucky >AI". Yeah. It's just stupid the way some people go on usenet with sweeping generalized criticism without any examples or data to back it up.
Werner Spahl - 25 Dec 2005 22:56 GMT > I think iam nearly finished now. Amd iam just using GOD mode most of > the time when something even moderatly hardish comes up. I just cant Well, if I could not die because of god mode in a FPS game like FEAR, I surely would be bored as well. FEAR is about _fighting_, nothing more.
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redTed - 26 Dec 2005 17:28 GMT > FEAR is about _fighting_, nothing more. Now there's a novelty for a FPS !!!!!!!
Shawk - 26 Dec 2005 19:12 GMT >> FEAR is about _fighting_, nothing more. > > Now there's a novelty for a FPS !!!!!!! Others seem surprised....
KCB - 26 Dec 2005 02:18 GMT > Its not scary to me. Dull yes, scary no !!! > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Oh well. What a complete and total loser you are. Of course running thru a game in GOD mode is going to be boring as hell. Have you ever actually finished a shooter without cheating? You probably play them all that way and then whine the whole time how boring they are. Aside from all that, I don't even know why I'm replying because it's obvious you're a TROLL.
Boris Easten - 26 Dec 2005 03:23 GMT Trolls dont reply to troll acusations :)
Just wanted some feedback to see if anyone else thought FEAR was boring. And YEs it is boring.
99.9% of the replys say so. So its just not me. And i only GOD MODE now becuase iam so bored with the game. You can only battle so much inthe same DAMN office building against the SAME DAMn Baddies so much before you head drops off from bordem :)
Maybe f they added some Techno Music it might have kept me awake. boom boom boom dush dush dush :p
>> Its not scary to me. Dull yes, scary no !!! >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >whine the whole time how boring they are. Aside from all that, I don't even >know why I'm replying because it's obvious you're a TROLL. HockeyTownUSA - 26 Dec 2005 17:52 GMT Ummm, I don't think 99.9%. Check out the *76* site and magazine reviews with what amounts to about an 85% or better average score:
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/fear/review.html?mode=web
> Trolls dont reply to troll acusations :) > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >>even >>know why I'm replying because it's obvious you're a TROLL. Mister Hand - 28 Dec 2005 05:53 GMT You forget, 89% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
> Ummm, I don't think 99.9%. Check out the *76* site and magazine reviews with > what amounts to about an 85% or better average score: [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > >>even > >>know why I'm replying because it's obvious you're a TROLL. Alai - 26 Dec 2005 04:10 GMT > Its not scary to me. Dull yes, scary no !!! It's not that scary, but it's scary enough to be fun. I like F.E.A.R. it's a good game I recommend to people who like challenging gameplay.
House of Brutus - 26 Dec 2005 19:09 GMT >It's not that scary, but it's scary enough to be fun. I like F.E.A.R. it's >a good game I recommend to people who like challenging gameplay. And don't mind playing gams at single digit frame rates. I've seen the benchmarks, this game has a crap inefficient graphics engine. I wouldn't waste my money on it for that reason alone.
-- Rosebud...
me@home.net - 26 Dec 2005 13:14 GMT >I think iam nearly finished now. Amd iam just using GOD mode most of >the time when something even moderatly hardish comes up. I just cant >be bothered trying to beat i. No wonder you're bored.
HockeyTownUSA - 26 Dec 2005 16:50 GMT > Its not scary to me. Dull yes, scary no !!! > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Oh well. Well it might be less "dull" if you don't use God mode, duh! Any game is boring using God mode.
I thought F.E.A.R. was brilliant! There are a few freaky parts, but in the whole, it isn't a scarefest like Doom 3. It has things that catch you off guard, and that little girl scared the sh.t out of me on numerous occassions.
Shawk - 26 Dec 2005 17:21 GMT >> Its not scary to me. Dull yes, scary no !!! >> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > guard, and that little girl scared the sh.t out of me on numerous > occassions. Probably about 6 levels into it now and loving it. I'm fighting through a warehouse district - I'm not expecting the levels to vary greatly, warehouses are pretty much the same in real life too...
HockeyTownUSA - 26 Dec 2005 17:33 GMT >>> Its not scary to me. Dull yes, scary no !!! >>> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > warehouse district - I'm not expecting the levels to vary greatly, > warehouses are pretty much the same in real life too... It seemed to have the feeling of a combination of Deus Ex and Half-Life 2. A lot of fun, lots of action, and takes some thinking to make your way around at times.
Shawk - 26 Dec 2005 19:25 GMT >>> Well it might be less "dull" if you don't use God mode, duh! Any game is >>> boring using God mode. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > A lot of fun, lots of action, and takes some thinking to make your way > around at times. Played a few levels last night after everyone else was in bed. Dark room, surround sound headphones. Jumped more than once :-)
Currently though I'm really enjoying the AI. It's like playing the original HL when the marines seemed to act like real troops and scared the crap out of me. This is the first game that's had that effect since. Buggers flanking me put the willies up me for a while. I'll replay a few sections to see how much of that is scripted later - for now I'm suspending belief and enjoying it.
(Don't know about Deus Ex, could never get into it - got totally bored in the training level - have it on the shelf so maybe when I have nothing else to play I'll give it the chance so many other folk tells me it deserves).
House of Brutus - 27 Dec 2005 03:38 GMT >(Don't know about Deus Ex, could never get into it - got totally bored in >the training level - have it on the shelf so maybe when I have nothing else >to play I'll give it the chance so many other folk tells me it deserves). And you acused me of not playing AOEIII enough to make a valid criticism? What a hypocrite you are.
-- Rosebud...
Shawk - 27 Dec 2005 10:15 GMT >>(Don't know about Deus Ex, could never get into it - got totally bored in >>the training level - have it on the shelf so maybe when I have nothing [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > And you acused me of not playing AOEIII enough to make a valid > criticism? What a hypocrite you are. Hmm, read it again. You even quoted it. "Don't know enough about Deus Ex". I'm not in the habit of commenting on something I know nothing about. I leave that to others...
House of Brutus - 26 Dec 2005 19:10 GMT >I thought F.E.A.R. was brilliant! There are a few freaky parts, but in the >whole, it isn't a scarefest like Doom 3. It has things that catch you off >guard, and that little girl scared the sh.t out of me on numerous >occassions. A little girl in a computer game scares you? You pussy!
-- Rosebud...
Litten Bueypeep - 29 Dec 2005 07:12 GMT >Its not scary to me. Dull yes, scary no !!! > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >Oh well. See as soon as you turn on God mode in any game, it loses something.
I resort to it occasionally due to lack of time, and I find my interest in a game waning after a while of doing so. I've put down some great games due to this phenomenon. To the point I regret it (HL2 Single player, Vampire bloodlines, and others... just couldnt go back to them after the ease of the cheat was right in front of me).
Honestly I got stuck in FEAR too and put it down and picked up the Mutliplayer game. Multi eclipses the single player game. I havent picked up single play again in FEAR, but I hope to, without resorting to puss mode.
To answer your question, yes I found FEAR somewhat spine tingling in certain parts, but I have the fastest video card you can buy, the third fastest CPU, and the second fastest sound card and I'm playing at 1280 with everything maxed and crystal smooth. It might lose something if I played with lesser hardware.
When I read this newsgroup I am always amazed at the minions who talk about a single player game and disregard multi. But I guess you are the ones without broadband perhaps? Otherwise you would probably spend 99% of your time playing and 1% on usenet, as I did ever since getting broadband. Just a guess.
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