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Game Forum / Role Playing Games / Warcraft / July 2008WoW: Anyway to unlock the pet bar?
The pet bar is hiding my chat window. I know I can move the chat window, but I would rather move the pet bar. How do you do it? If there isn't a way, can someone recommend a mod that will do so without radically altering the rest of the interface? Mike S. udviste en rettidig omhu og skrev: > The pet bar is hiding my chat window. I know I can move the chat > window, but I would rather move the pet bar. How do you do it? If > there isn't a way, can someone recommend a mod that will do so without > radically altering the rest of the interface? I think Bongos 2 (addon) is your answer.  SignaturePeter T. >I think Bongos 2 (addon) is your answer. It is. Thank you. > >I think Bongos 2 (addon) is your answer. > > It is. Thank you. Bartender works as well. I've tried both and tend to prefer Bartender a little more. YMMV. Mike >Bartender works as well. I've tried both and tend to prefer Bartender >a little more. YMMV. Thanks, I will grab it and give it a try. >>> I think Bongos 2 (addon) is your answer. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Mike Yeah, I tend to prefer Bartender as well. >>>> I think Bongos 2 (addon) is your answer. >>> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Yeah, I tend to prefer Bartender as well. I've been using Trinity for ages, so I'd recommend that, but I'd like to hear from anyone who has used all three (Bongos, bartender and Trinity) maybe to point out advantages or differences? Trinity comes close to the old FlexBar in functionality so I like it for that. > On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:14:05 -0400, "Allcoastz" > <allcoastBRA@PANTIESsc.rr.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Trinity comes close to the old FlexBar in functionality so I like it > for that. Trinity surpasses the old DAB in functionality but is much easier to configure :-) And I, too, would be interested to hear from users who have used Bartender, Bongos and Trinity on how the three compare, all I know is DAB and Trinity. Cheers Urbin SignatureDun Morogh-EU (PvE) Urbin (70), Dwarven Hunter | Surana (35), Draenei Mage Mymule (70), Gnomish Warlock | Juran (33), Nightelven Druid Sunh (70), Nightelven Priest | Gera (26), Human Paladin >> >Yeah, I tend to prefer Bartender as well. >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >And I, too, would be interested to hear from users who have used Bartender, >Bongos and Trinity on how the three compare, all I know is DAB and Trinity. I'd be interested myself, as for some time I've been considering switching to a bars mod - I *like* the default layout but just have too many skills now. Do any work without reconfiguring the default layout bars? I don't want the hassle of having to set it up on 3 different computers, so I'd like one that leaves the default bars still usable (in the same button layout I currently have) even if I use the mod most of the time (also so I can still play when it inevitably breaks on a patch ;-)) SignatureEU-Draenor: Balgair (70 Human Rogue) Naomh (70 Draenei Priest) Sagart (70 Undead Priest) Rosad (70 Human Warlock) Eilnich (70 Blood Elf Warlock) Sealgair (70 Dwarf Hunter) Buinne (68 Troll Shaman) Tairbh (62 Tauren Druid) Beag (60 Dwarf Paladin) > >> >Yeah, I tend to prefer Bartender as well. > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > the time (also so I can still play when it inevitably breaks on a patch > ;-)) I started wtih CT_BarMod, then got rid of all CT based addons in favour of Ace for ease of updating, so I changed to Trinity. I can't recall the exact problems I had with Trinity (*), but at some point I decided I needed to try something else and switched to Bartender (whatever the latest version is). I'm happy enough with it, although I have to say that assigning hotkeys was easier in Trinity than in Bartender. (*) I know one problem was changing gear in stealth would cause my main form action bar to disappear until I unstealthed / restealthed, but I am sure that wasn't the only issue I had with Trinity. > >> >Yeah, I tend to prefer Bartender as well. > >> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > the time (also so I can still play when it inevitably breaks on a patch > ;-)) I can't speak for Bartender and Bongos, but as far as I know there is no way to keep the default buttons using trinity. But then that may just be because I have used various bar mods before switching to trinity, so I don't know if it would have worked, had I come directly from the Blizzard UI. No harm in trying, download it, try it, if it doesn't kepp the bars, log out and remove it. If you don't make changes to the config before removing it, it should leave your default UI bars alone. Cheers Urbin SignatureDun Morogh-EU (PvE) Urbin (70), Dwarven Hunter | Surana (35), Draenei Mage Mymule (70), Gnomish Warlock | Juran (33), Nightelven Druid Sunh (70), Nightelven Priest | Gera (26), Human Paladin >> I'd be interested myself, as for some time I've been considering >> switching to a bars mod - I *like* the default layout but just have too [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >and remove it. If you don't make changes to the config before removing it, >it should leave your default UI bars alone. That's not really what I mean. I don't mind the default bars not being there when I add bars using a mod, I *do* mind it rearranging all the buttons on those bars so they are unusable on a computer without the mod installed. For example Unitbuttons is mostly great, but has a clash between the bar you can attach to yourself and druid catform - change the buttons on one, and they also change on the other... so my druid has to do without a self bar as using it makes using catform impossible. I don't want to find using a bar mod messes up my button layout whenever i switch to not using it. SignatureEU-Draenor: Balgair (70 Human Rogue) Naomh (70 Draenei Priest) Sagart (70 Undead Priest) Rosad (70 Human Warlock) Eilnich (70 Blood Elf Warlock) Sealgair (70 Dwarf Hunter) Buinne (69 Troll Shaman) Tairbh (62 Tauren Druid) Beag (60 Dwarf Paladin) > >> I'd be interested myself, as for some time I've been considering > >> switching to a bars mod - I *like* the default layout but just have too [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > don't want to find using a bar mod messes up my button layout whenever i > switch to not using it. I understood that. What I was trying to say was: If Trinity already maps your "default" buttons to a corresponding bar of its own, you won't need to rearrange those but can concentrate on adding new bars and only moving around buttons on those. That should leave your "normal" buttons ok. If you see that your default setting does not even show up under Trinity you can end the excercise right then and there. Of course, there is still a certain risk that your buttons will be messed about once you start arranging the additional trinity buttons... Cheers Urbin SignatureDun Morogh-EU (PvE) Urbin (70), Dwarven Hunter | Surana (35), Draenei Mage Mymule (70), Gnomish Warlock | Juran (33), Nightelven Druid Sunh (70), Nightelven Priest | Gera (26), Human Paladin >> >> I'd be interested myself, as for some time I've been considering >> >> switching to a bars mod - I *like* the default layout but just have too [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >Of course, there is still a certain risk that your buttons will be messed >about once you start arranging the additional trinity buttons... Ahh, I see what you mean now - only trouble is that I imagine I'd be wanting to rearrange them if I got a mod as the bars would be in different places then - I'd rather start with a blank canvas that entirely ignores the default actionbars, and has zero effect on them. SignatureEU-Draenor: Balgair (70 Human Rogue) Naomh (70 Draenei Priest) Sagart (70 Undead Priest) Rosad (70 Human Warlock) Eilnich (70 Blood Elf Warlock) Sealgair (70 Dwarf Hunter) Buinne (69 Troll Shaman) Tairbh (62 Tauren Druid) Beag (60 Dwarf Paladin) > >I understood that. What I was trying to say was: If Trinity already maps > >your "default" buttons to a corresponding bar of its own, you won't need to [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > different places then - I'd rather start with a blank canvas that > entirely ignores the default actionbars, and has zero effect on them. I'm not sure if this is feasible or not for any addon. It used to be that there were only 120 buttons that could be used for all bars and addons had to use the same 120 buttons the default bars used. IIRC this has changed in a recent patch insofar as there are still 120 "standard buttons" but that addons can add more buttons with certain constraints but I am not sure how this all works out in the end. Cheers Urbin SignatureDun Morogh-EU (PvE) Urbin (70), Dwarven Hunter | Surana (35), Draenei Mage Mymule (70), Gnomish Warlock | Juran (33), Nightelven Druid Sunh (70), Nightelven Priest | Gera (26), Human Paladin > >> That's not really what I mean. I don't mind the default bars not being > >> there when I add bars using a mod, I *do* mind it rearranging all the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >> don't want to find using a bar mod messes up my button layout whenever i > >> switch to not using it. With the Blizzard interface you have 6 action bars each with 12 buttons. With bartender you'll get 10 action bars each with 12 buttons. If Unit Buttons uses the cat form bar then I'd assume that it is using bars 6 to 10 for player and party1 to party4. If that's the case then I think that you're going to be stuck with any bar mod you use. They'll just add the 4 extra bars and they'll already be in use by Unit Buttons. > >I understood that. What I was trying to say was: If Trinity already maps > >your "default" buttons to a corresponding bar of its own, you won't need to [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > different places then - I'd rather start with a blank canvas that > entirely ignores the default actionbars, and has zero effect on them. Every bar mod I have used has worked as I said above*. It uses the bars already provided by Blizzard and adds the 4 bars that Blizzard didn't include in the default UI. With Bartender you get 10 bars that you can hide and arrange as you please. So you can put bars 1 to 6 exactly as you have them now without the extra graphical textures that blizzard put around them. It also gives you all the other things in that bottom bar as moveable, hidable elements - the latency meter, the bags, the xp/rep bar etc. * Flexbar gave you 120 buttons to arrange as you liked but they were still the same buttons from the 10 bars of 12 buttons. steve.kaye >Every bar mod I have used has worked as I said above*. It uses the >bars already provided by Blizzard and adds the 4 bars that Blizzard [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >* Flexbar gave you 120 buttons to arrange as you liked but they were >still the same buttons from the 10 bars of 12 buttons. Ok, thanks for the info, guess I'll carry on as I am then. I'm certanly not prepared to make the default interface unusable just for the sake of convenience when using a mod - my policy with mods is to always have things set up so if they break I can still play, and that won't be the case if it screws up all my bar arrangements. SignatureEU-Draenor: Balgair (70 Human Rogue) Naomh (70 Draenei Priest) Sagart (70 Undead Priest) Rosad (70 Human Warlock) Eilnich (70 Blood Elf Warlock) Sealgair (70 Dwarf Hunter) Buinne (69 Troll Shaman) Tairbh (62 Tauren Druid) Beag (60 Dwarf Paladin) > On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:21:57 -0700 (PDT), "steve.kaye" > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > things set up so if they break I can still play, and that won't be the > case if it screws up all my bar arrangements. It won't screw up your bar arrangements. It just detaches them and allows you to move/scale/show/hide them. Bartender allows you to specify which bar to use when stealthed, cat form, bear form etc. Also, you can set it to use a different bar when you press alt, shift or ctrl (this is why the UI screen shot I posted a week or so ago is so bare - everything changes when I want it to) Provided you don't use this feature (leaving them all as default) you should be able to turn it off and on with no problems. steve.kaye >> On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:21:57 -0700 (PDT), "steve.kaye" >> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >Provided you don't use this feature (leaving them all as default) you >should be able to turn it off and on with no problems. But you just said it uses bar 1-6 as I have them now, which means if I change the button arrangements on them (which I obviously will; if they're in different places on my screen the old layout wont work so well) it'll change the button placement in the default layout too, thus making it unusable. SignatureEU-Draenor: Balgair (70 Human Rogue) Naomh (70 Draenei Priest) Sagart (70 Undead Priest) Rosad (70 Human Warlock) Eilnich (70 Blood Elf Warlock) Sealgair (70 Dwarf Hunter) Buinne (69 Troll Shaman) Tairbh (62 Tauren Druid) Beag (60 Dwarf Paladin) > >> Ok, thanks for the info, guess I'll carry on as I am then. I'm certanly > >> not prepared to make the default interface unusable just for the sake of [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > well) it'll change the button placement in the default layout too, thus > making it unusable. But you can place these bars in exactly the same places as they are now. Then all you'd have is 4 new bars to position as you like which is what I thought that you wanted. You'd also possibly gain a bit of extra screen space if there are elements of that bottom bar you don't need. For example, I never use the micro buttons so I hide those. steve.kaye >> >> Ok, thanks for the info, guess I'll carry on as I am then. I'm certanly >> >> not prepared to make the default interface unusable just for the sake of [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >elements of that bottom bar you don't need. For example, I never use >the micro buttons so I hide those. Ahh, I see. Got no idea what I'd do with the layout frankly but the current one doesn't seem too suitable for adding extras, there's just nowhere for them to go. And I'd still end up rearranging things anyway if there were more bars available. SignatureEU-Draenor: Balgair (70 Human Rogue) Naomh (70 Draenei Priest) Sagart (70 Undead Priest) Rosad (70 Human Warlock) Eilnich (70 Blood Elf Warlock) Sealgair (70 Dwarf Hunter) Buinne (69 Troll Shaman) Tairbh (62 Tauren Druid) Beag (60 Dwarf Paladin) Has anyone tried this mod? http://go-hero.net/opie/ I have just read some bad reviews of it doing some crazy things to peoples frame rates, but it does look like a neat idea, might be something for the future...... CG |
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