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Monkeyboy - 12 Mar 2008 19:53 GMT
I need a macro that will cycle through targets (like ''tab'') but without
targeting pets, minions and totems. Anyone know of any?

thanks
John Gordon - 12 Mar 2008 20:17 GMT
> I need a macro that will cycle through targets (like ''tab'') but without
> targeting pets, minions and totems. Anyone know of any?

I don't know of any, no.  But even if one did exist or you were to
write one yourself, it wouldn't be usable in combat.  Blizzard redid
the macro system some time ago to disallow automated selection of
targets while in combat.

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22incher - 13 Mar 2008 01:18 GMT
He is not asking for automated system targetting, I believe he is asking to
skip unnecessary targets, yes it is possible you better ask in WoW official
Macro and Ui forums.

>> I need a macro that will cycle through targets (like ''tab'') but without
>> targeting pets, minions and totems. Anyone know of any?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> the macro system some time ago to disallow automated selection of
> targets while in combat.
steve.kaye - 13 Mar 2008 09:09 GMT
> He is not asking for automated system targetting, I believe he is asking to
> skip unnecessary targets, yes it is possible you better ask in WoW official
> Macro and Ui forums.

It is making a decision for you and that is some level of automation.
You say target and it selects a target intelligently.  I also think
that it can't be done but would like to be proved wrong as it could be
useful.

steve.kaye
ImmortalCG - 13 Mar 2008 12:34 GMT
> > He is not asking for automated system targetting, I believe he is asking to
> > skip unnecessary targets, yes it is possible you better ask in WoW official
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> steve.kaye

Hmm, so how would you classify the macros that "inteligently" target
Illhoof, Kil'rek or Demon Chains in Karazhan.

These macros effectivley allow one button to make a decision for you
on what to kill first.

CG
Matt - 13 Mar 2008 13:21 GMT
> Hmm, so how would you classify the macros that "inteligently" target
> Illhoof, Kil'rek or Demon Chains in Karazhan.
>
> These macros effectivley allow one button to make a decision for you
> on what to kill first.

No, they don't make decision for you what to kill first. The only
thing such macro does is allows you to help with targeting in a pre-
set sequence (e.g. chains first) - kill order is already determined
when writing such macro. They simplify things, but don't automate.

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gerryq - 13 Mar 2008 15:24 GMT
> > Hmm, so how would you classify the macros that "inteligently" target
> > Illhoof, Kil'rek or Demon Chains in Karazhan.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> set sequence (e.g. chains first) - kill order is already determined
> when writing suchmacro. They simplify things, but don't automate.

Well, if you knew what targets might be present in a particular fight,
you could make exactly the macro the OP was looking for.

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steve.kaye - 13 Mar 2008 15:35 GMT
> > > Hmm, so how would you classify the macros that "inteligently" target
> > > Illhoof, Kil'rek or Demon Chains in Karazhan.
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> Well, if you knew what targets might be present in a particular fight,
> you could make exactly the macro the OP was looking for.

The world is too varied for that.  How long do you spend fighting, for
example, the warlock types near Booty Bay for you to adjust this macro
before you fight them.  It would be a lot of wasted time across the
levels.

Also, this macro would be more useful in PvP as you often want to
ignore the pet as it will despawn when the owner dies.  Unfortunately,
it would be unworkable in PvP as player and pet names are too varied
and a player may have the same name as a pet.

steve.kaye
Matt - 13 Mar 2008 15:50 GMT
> Also, this macro would be more useful in PvP as you often want to
> ignore the pet as it will despawn when the owner dies.  Unfortunately,
> it would be unworkable in PvP as player and pet names are too varied
> and a player may have the same name as a pet.

Hunters in BGs/Arenas often name their pet after themselves or team
mate just for this purpose - to mess with targeting macros.

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Catriona R - 13 Mar 2008 17:19 GMT
>> Also, this macro would be more useful in PvP as you often want to
>> ignore the pet as it will despawn when the owner dies.  Unfortunately,
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>Hunters in BGs/Arenas often name their pet after themselves or team
>mate just for this purpose - to mess with targeting macros.

One of my guildies has a hunter called Ravager (created long before TBC and
ravager beasts), I keep saying he should get a ravager pet and really
confuse people ;-)
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PV - 13 Mar 2008 17:06 GMT
>He is not asking for automated system targetting, I believe he is asking to
>skip unnecessary targets, yes it is possible you better ask in WoW official
>Macro and Ui forums.

No, altering tab targeting selections is NOT possible. *
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Rob Wynne - 11 May 2008 14:12 GMT
>>He is not asking for automated system targetting, I believe he is asking to
>>skip unnecessary targets, yes it is possible you better ask in WoW official
>>Macro and Ui forums.
>
> No, altering tab targeting selections is NOT possible. *

On the other hand, it might be possible to have an addon that, after a
target is selected, and if that target met a particular criteria, issued a
subsequent next_target command, until it got a target it was happy with.

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steve.kaye - 12 May 2008 08:39 GMT
> >>He is not asking for automated system targetting, I believe he is asking to
> >>skip unnecessary targets, yes it is possible you better ask in WoW official
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> target is selected, and if that target met a particular criteria, issued a
> subsequent next_target command, until it got a target it was happy with.

The targeting functions are not available to an addon whilst in combat
so you couldn't issue the target next command.

steve.kaye
Tixover - 12 May 2008 14:47 GMT
>>>> He is not asking for automated system targetting, I believe he is asking to
>>>> skip unnecessary targets, yes it is possible you better ask in WoW official
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> steve.kaye

even if you are out of combat, does anyone know it there is a way of
automatically targetting (or even better setting your focus ) to a
particular raid symbol marked mob? I ask because with some groups if I
miss the point where the party leader marks my particular responsibility
(so target the leader and hit "F") it can be a right PITA to select it
and in some instances the Tab targetting seems to pick up the whole damn
area before settling on the one I need.

Tix
steve.kaye - 12 May 2008 15:52 GMT
> even if you are out of combat, does anyone know it there is a way of
> automatically targetting (or even better setting your focus ) to a
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> and in some instances the Tab targetting seems to pick up the whole damn
> area before settling on the one I need.

I think that you could do this because I think that you can use the
targetting functions out of combat.  If that is right you could cycle
the target next enemy function to find out which one has the
appropriate target.  You could also cycle through raid members and
check if their targets have the raid symbol.  One method wouldn't work
if the mob was out of tab target range and the second method wouldn't
work if nobody had it targetted so you'd probably want to use both
methods to give the addon the best chance of finding the target.

steve.kaye
PV - 12 May 2008 18:17 GMT
>even if you are out of combat, does anyone know it there is a way of
>automatically targetting (or even better setting your focus ) to a
>particular raid symbol marked mob?

No. There used to be a way, but it was removed prior to BC due to massive
abuse by addons. *
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steve.kaye - 12 May 2008 21:55 GMT
> >even if you are out of combat, does anyone know it there is a way of
> >automatically targetting (or even better setting your focus ) to a
> >particular raid symbol marked mob?
>
> No. There used to be a way, but it was removed prior to BC due to massive
> abuse by addons. *

I thought that a restriction was put on them so that they couldn't be
used in combat but I've just tried TargetNearestFriend() and it
wouldn't work from the command line, from a macro or from an addon via
a keybinding.  (I tried all three because they have slightly different
rules)

steve.kaye
PV - 12 May 2008 18:16 GMT
>On the other hand, it might be possible to have an addon that, after a
>target is selected, and if that target met a particular criteria, issued a
>subsequent next_target command, until it got a target it was happy with.

I don't believe that can be done either. *
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colemanj4 - 12 May 2008 14:30 GMT
> >He is not asking for automated system targetting, I believe he is asking to
> >skip unnecessary targets, yes it is possible you better ask in WoW official
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> * PV   something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
>        like corkscrews.

But that isn't what was asked. I have a tab-target macro that targets
the nearest target to me (just like tab targeting will do for cycling
through targets) but then automatically turns on autoattack. I then
have this on my far right action bar and bound that button to tab.

There is no intelligence to it,since it acts just the same as default
tab-targeting, except it turns on my auto-attack so I don't have to
worry about having it on a separate button, and if I am rage / energy
starved (feral OTing ftw) I can still get some white attacks off
steve.kaye - 12 May 2008 14:47 GMT
> > >He is not asking for automated system targetting, I believe he is asking to
> > >skip unnecessary targets, yes it is possible you better ask in WoW official
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> worry about having it on a separate button, and if I am rage / energy
> starved (feral OTing ftw) I can still get some white attacks off

There is no intelligence to your macro.  It just targets the nearest
and attacks.  What the OP asked for was a way to miss out targets that
he is not interested in.  This requires some decision making on the
part of the macro or addon.  It needs to decide if the current target
is the desired one and retarget if it is not.

Personally, I'd really like a way to tab target and miss the hunter
snake trap snakes.  I always tab target and it really throws me off
when they drop the trap and then feign death making it difficult for
me to retarget.  I know that I just need to learn to click target more
quickly but it's changing the way I've done it for as long as I've
played MMOs and it's a hard habit to break out of.

Thinking about it maybe I should /focus on the hunter and /target
focus when he feigns.  I wonder if feign death clears the /focus in
the same way that real death would.

steve.kaye
 
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