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Game Forum / Role Playing Games / Warcraft / May 2008Age of Conan dev: Gamers tired of Warcraft...?
Age of Conan dev: Gamers tired of Warcraft ------------------------------------------------------------------ Quest designer says there is a "feeling on the Internet" that WoW is losing its appeal. Gamers are getting tired of World of Warcraft, according to the developer of upcoming fantasy MMO Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures. Speaking in an interview with VideoGamer.com, quest designer Joel Bylos said that while "everybody working in the industry respects WoW", there is a "feeling on the Internet" that it is losing its lustre. Blizzard's World of Warcraft has proved to be a gaming phenomenon since its release in November 2004 and currently enjoys 9.3 million active subscribers across the globe. When asked whether he thought people were getting tired of WoW and might be looking for something different, Bylos said: "Yeah. There's definitely that feeling on the Internet. You get that just from online communities, which of course we all pay attention to as well." He added: "But I think one mistake a lot of people make is they design a game to be WoW and WoW was successful on its own two legs and that's what Conan is going to do." AoC is a violent fantasy MMO set in the universe of Conan the Barbarian and is scheduled for a March 2008 release on PC and sometime after that for Xbox 360. For more on Age of Conan head over to the first part of our hands-on preview. http://www.videogamer.com/pc/wrath_of_the_lich_king/news-7113. >Gamers are getting tired of World of Warcraft, according to the >developer of upcoming fantasy MMO Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures. Whether it's true or not, this guy needs to get his a.s fired. *  Signature* PV something like badgers--something like lizards--and something like corkscrews. >>Gamers are getting tired of World of Warcraft, according to the >>developer of upcoming fantasy MMO Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures. > >Whether it's true or not, this guy needs to get his a.s fired. * If it is true, just for the sake of argument, why should he be fired for stating a truth? > >>Gamers are getting tired of World of Warcraft, according to the > >>developer of upcoming fantasy MMO Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > If it is true, just for the sake of argument, why should he be fired > for stating a truth? please don't engage the PV troll. >If it is true, just for the sake of argument, why should he be fired >for stating a truth? Because it's not a good move PR wise. * Signature* PV something like badgers--something like lizards--and something like corkscrews. Let's not forget the Oblivion-esque system requirements need to play AoC. Warcraft is also very popular because you don't need a suped-up machine to play it. AoC not only has to fight against WOW, it also has to fight against that Pirates of the Burning Seas MMO as well as the other supposed "wow killer" with the orcs/elves in it (forget the name). : Age of Conan dev: Gamers tired of Warcraft : ------------------------------------------------------------------ [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] : : http://www.videogamer.com/pc/wrath_of_the_lich_king/news-7113. I am not getting tired of World of Warcraft. I am not getting tired of Final Fantasy XI either. I think this quest designer Joel Bylos is just hyping his own crap. Actually sounds more like prayer from him huh. I bet he is also one of the curmudgeons here in the newsgroup. What character and what server is he on in WoW ? We all can put him on our list. Know what I mean ? ** no fate ** dracman Tomb Raider: Shotgun City http://www.smokeypoint.com/tomb.htm my game machines: http://www.smokeypoint.com/My_PC.htm Aliase female hume rogue lvl 70 PVE solo http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Zul'jin&n=Aliase Subtlety 5/22/34 Zebby female NE Huntress lvl 70 / Aja nightstalker cat lvl 70 (bite,prowl) PVE solo http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Zul'jin&n=Zebby Marksmanship 17/34/10 WoW ingame pictures in a smoke free environment: http://www.smokeypoint.com/if_airport/telaar.html http://www.smokeypoint.com/if_airport/IF_airport.htm http://www.smokeypoint.org/wow/worldofwarcraft1.html ----------------------------------------- http://thottbot.com/?c=hunter http://thottbot.com/?c=rogue ----------------------------------------- > Age of Conan dev: Gamers tired of Warcraft > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Quest designer says there is a "feeling on the Internet" that WoW is > losing its appeal. "feeling on the internet"... I guess it's a way of saying "We want to make people believe that WoW is dying so that they'll come and play *our* game instead, but we don't have any evidence to support it. I suppose we could run a poll, but we might not get a result that we like..." > Gamers are getting tired of World of Warcraft, according to the developer > of upcoming fantasy MMO Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures. Gamers might be surprised to hear that. > Speaking in an interview with VideoGamer.com, quest designer Joel Bylos > said that while "everybody working in the industry respects WoW", there is > a "feeling on the Internet" that it is losing its lustre. Yep. And the new Lich King expansion won't help a bit:) > Blizzard's World of Warcraft has proved to be a gaming phenomenon since > its release in November 2004 and currently enjoys 9.3 million active > subscribers across the globe. Pretty much speaks for itself > When asked whether he thought people were getting tired of WoW and might > be looking for something different, Bylos said: "Yeah. There's definitely > that feeling on the Internet. You get that just from online communities, > which of course we all pay attention to as well." There's that "feeling on the internet" again. > He added: "But I think one mistake a lot of people make is they design a > game to be WoW and WoW was successful on its own two legs and that's what [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > For more on Age of Conan head over to the first part of our hands-on > preview. Having said all that, I'll definitely have a look at it... It'd be stupid not to. SignatureDoc 'Virtus et armis!' 70 Hunter - Nagrand 70 Warlock - Nagrand 65 Rogue - Skywall 61 Warrior - Llane Doc <the.doc.is.in@REMOVETHISgmail.com> declared in: 13ng93bim9aq1b5@corp.supernews.com : >> Age of Conan dev: Gamers tired of Warcraft >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Pretty much speaks for itself Exactly. I think there ARE several people in the hardcore gaming community, who are getting a little tired of playing WoW, but that leaves a few importaint points open: 1. Those people have had tons of other great games all along, which they probably also do play, and yet they still keep an account in WoW. 2. Those people are in fact a minority among the 9.3 million subscribers. WoW did not build it's enormous fanbase on gamers alone. There is a significant portion of very casual players, who are not likely to jump ship because of a new game, once they have buried themselves in WoW. To them, the huge investment of time is not something that you simply leave behind, unlike the gamers. 3. The people willing to jump are an outspoken bunch, thereby making up a lot of the clatter, but remaining a small minority. WoW is here to stay. To a huge portion of players, the sentimental attachment is too great. And then there are also the many people who simply do not agree with the statement, and are still perfectly happy with WoW. > Having said all that, I'll definitely have a look at it... It'd be > stupid not to. I agree. Every new MMORPG that comes along is always touted by someone as a WoW killer. Much like every FPS that comes out now is claimed to be a Halo killer. Someone is always going to jump onto that wagon and ride until its eventual crash. Its not surprising that another game developer would eventually jump on this train, what better way to promote their own game? The only thing that is going to kill WoW is Blizzard themselves. When they fail to update the game to offer something new, thats when WoW will die. TBC may have had a lot of the same, go kill X number of this mob, collect this item, kill this guy, go talk to this guy, but it also introduced some things that were new to WoW. Flying mounts made travel easier, daily quests made gold grinding easier, and lots of easily grindable factions so you can pick and chose gear for your character. Better 5-man dungeon design and smaller raid sizes helped a lot also. 2 new races and opening up previously faction specific classes to both factions were nice touches. WotLK will have siege weapons and an outdoor PvP zone which is definitely something I an interested in seeing. The addition of the death knight class will also be something interesting, though I fully expect to see every conceivable variation of the name Sauron. Who knows what might be in any future expansions beyond that. You'll most likely also see the sudden rush back to WoW that we saw with the release of the last expansion. Let this guy blow all the smoke he wants. In the end this kind of hype will run the same lifecycle as the "LotRO will kill WoW" crap that we all saw spammed in the official WoW forums prior to its release. > Let this guy blow all the smoke he wants. In the end this kind of > hype will run the same lifecycle as the "LotRO will kill WoW" crap > that we all saw spammed in the official WoW forums prior to its > release. That's one of the few MMO's that I haven't actually tried yet... from the outside looking in, it always seemed kind of... I dunno, soft? Made for kids? <shrugs> I don't know :) Weaksauce? Bah, whatever :) SignatureDoc 'Virtus et armis!' 70 Hunter - Nagrand 70 Warlock - Nagrand 65 Rogue - Skywall 61 Warrior - Llane > Every new MMORPG that comes along is always touted by someone as a WoW > killer. Much like every FPS that comes out now is claimed to be a > Halo killer. ROTFL!!! What a joke! You do realise that this is a PC NG, don't you? Well, we've had Halo killers for years, because the game is f.cking sh.t. In fact Halo was killed by Half Life, Far Cry, Painkiller, NOLF, Crysis, Bioshock and just about every other half decent FPS game there has ever been. God I just love the weigh that console newbie's minds work. >> Every new MMORPG that comes along is always touted by someone as a WoW >> killer. Much like every FPS that comes out now is claimed to be a [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >about every other half decent FPS game there has ever been. God I just love >the weigh that console newbie's minds work. Agreed, heh. I played Halo when it first came out, but soon moved on. Palindrome > God I just love the weigh that console newbie's minds work. Consoles are where the market is. It dwarfs the PC game market. (I play on PCs, not consoles, so it's not like I like that fact.) And it's "way". >> Every new MMORPG that comes along is always touted by someone as a WoW >> killer. Much like every FPS that comes out now is claimed to be a >> Halo killer. This is what they said about everquest. Until it happened. > >> Every new MMORPG that comes along is always touted by someone as a WoW > >> killer. Much like every FPS that comes out now is claimed to be a > >> Halo killer. > > This is what they said about everquest. > Until it happened. Which is exactly my point. Every game will be touted as a killer of another game. Games eventually die on their own anyway, and its really just coincidence when a game death coincides with the release of a game touted as its killer. I think it was lcpltom <lcpltom@yahoo.com> that wrote something like... >> >> Every new MMORPG that comes along is always touted by someone as a WoW >> >> killer. Much like every FPS that comes out now is claimed to be a [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >really just coincidence when a game death coincides with the release >of a game touted as its killer. I wouldn't say it's *entirely* a co-incidence. After all, it's no co=incidence that the camel's back broke right after you added that last piece of straw. ; ) But considering people are going to be calling pretty much *every* new game, the "killer" game, they've pretty much going to have to get it right eventually. ; ) Ashen Shugar SignatureThe lions sing and the hills take flight. The moon by day, and the sun by night. Blind woman, deaf man, jackdaw fool. Let the Lord of Chaos rule! > I think it was lcpltom <lcpl...@yahoo.com> that wrote something > like... [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Blind woman, deaf man, jackdaw fool. > Let the Lord of Chaos rule! Its my belief that games die out on their own. If people weren't already bored with playing them, they wouldn't be looking at the next big game coming out. I have no intent on playing AoC, I'm still having fun playing WoW. But I'm sure there are lots of people out there getting a little tired of WoW, or just need something to pass the time until WotLK, and those will be the people to play AoC. Them, and of course, all the people who just got banned for botting. On May 26, 6:03 pm, "Ayatollah of rock 'n' roller" <this...@lse.co.ck> wrote: > > Every new MMORPG that comes along is always touted by someone as a WoW > > killer. Much like every FPS that comes out now is claimed to be a [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > about every other half decent FPS game there has ever been. God I just love > the weigh that console newbie's minds work. You might note that at no time did I say I was a console player in that post. As far as consoles go, I have a Wii. I don't have an Xbox, or a 360. What my post was about had nothing to do with how good any other games are. My post was only about how everytime a new game in a genre comes out, its touted as being a killer of the previous king of that genre, or a killer of the game that made a name for that genre. Every MMORPG that has come out in the past few years has been touted as a WoW killer. WoW isn't the newest MMORPG, nor is it the first, its simply the king right now. LotRO was called a WoW Killer, now AoC. And there have been others. I don't play many FPS games. Doom and Quake, and for a while the countless WWII games until they all started to mush together essentially becoming one big blur of history. I played Halo once, on my brother's Xbox, and didn't find anything special in it that other FPS games had already done. Then there was the entire last sentence of your post which made my brain want to pack its suitcase and go on vacation. First, I'll assume you meant way, not weigh. If you meant weigh, well, our public school system has done you a great disservice (your lack of reading comprehension not withheld from that comment either). Second, what would being a newbie have anything to do with it and what in my post qualified me as a "console newbie?" Fact is, I've owned a video game console since the first Nintendo came out. Thats well over 20 years of console ownership. So exactly how many years of console ownership do you need to no longer be a newbie? So, I'll just re-summarize what my comment (which was posted 5 months ago, and you're just finding it now?) was about. Its not about one game being better than another. Its about the perception of games released subsequent to a previous highly regarded game of that genre. Every MMORPG that comes out is touted as a WoW killer. Every FPS game that comes out is touted as a Halo killer. Sonic was a Mario killer. Call of Duty was a Medal of Honor killer. Are these games really better than the games they supposedly kill? Thats a matter of personal perception. I've more than likely wasted my time. You probably still won't understand anything I wrote, come back with some stupid comment showing how out of context you take anything I say, and probably do it about 5 months. See you in October. |
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