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Game Forum / Strategy Games / The Sims / July 2008Ping: Mim re skintones
When a skintone has been cloned from the "wrong" mesh, ie. where a creator is lazy and just clones everything from a light skintone, is there any way to change the underlying mesh so that a dark texture is on a dark mesh, tan is on tan, etc? Because in the scenario above, if you use a cutom skintone in the darkest texture and then take it out, your sim ends up wearing a light skin. I want to somehow be able to edit the underlying skintone information so that a dark texture ends up sitting on a dark mesh and when you make a sim with that and then take the skin out the sim still displays a dark skintone. I figured that what I'd need to do would be to make myself 4 skintone mesh templates by extracting the 4 Maxis skintones and then swapping out the Maxis textures with the cutom ones and creating a new skintone that way, but this time the textures would be on the correct meshes. Is this the easiest way or is there some simple tweak in SimPE or WW that is easier than the BS extract-then-overwrite tango? Cheers! Engram http://rothpoint.googlepages.com/home The Darcy Legacy! http://engram-au.livejournal.com/tag/legacy:+darcy I just don't understand what you are talking about. I was unaware that each body colour had a different mesh. When taking out a custom skintone (non-geneticised) the application of a new skin always appeared to be random to me. With taking out a geneticised skin the new skin should be based on the internal numbers (not that I have done a lot of experimentation with this) and therefor close to what they were already 'wearing'. If you're talking about one or two Sims that have ended up with an unwanted skin you could try pasting the skins family number into their skintone dataslot, but as a wholesale problem that could be overwelming. MM > When a skintone has been cloned from the "wrong" mesh, ie. where a creator > is lazy and just clones everything from a light skintone, is there any way [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > http://rothpoint.googlepages.com/home > The Darcy Legacy! http://engram-au.livejournal.com/tag/legacy:+darcy > I just don't understand what you are talking about. I was unaware > that each body colour had a different mesh. When taking out a custom [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > skins family number into their skintone dataslot, but as a wholesale > problem that could be overwelming. I'm abviously not explaining it very well... I need to do more experimenting. What I have found is that when you have a skintone with a "dark" texture (ie. makes a sim look like an islander or African American, etc) and it has been created on a "light" mesh (ie. when you look at the Skintone XML in SimPE is says Light), then when you create a sim with the dark-looking skin and then you take the skintone out of your downloads and look at the sim again, they end up wearing S1, which is Light. I need to experiment with what happens when you put a lightcoloured skintone that was cloned off a skin with a Dark XML. If the reverse is true and a formerly light-skinned sim ends up wearing S4, I will have my answer. Cheers! Engram http://rothpoint.googlepages.com/home The Darcy Legacy! http://engram-au.livejournal.com/tag/legacy:+darcy > I just don't understand what you are talking about. I was unaware > that each body colour had a different mesh. When taking out a custom [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > skins family number into their skintone dataslot, but as a wholesale > problem that could be overwelming. OK, I had a look at a skin that seemed to be have the "right" Skintone XML and even though there should have been a nice range of all 4 skintone colours present when the custom geneticised skin was taken out, everyone ended up wearing something like S1 or S2 (all the same, but I'm not sure which it was). I'm not talking about editing sims themselves, but editing the custom skintone so that when you create a sim with it and then take it out (accidental deletion or on purpose) the sim ends up wearing the same family of skintone (ie. dark skinned sims end up wearing S4 rather than S2 so "black" sims don't suddenly turn "white" when their custom skintone goes bye bye). Cheers! Engram http://rothpoint.googlepages.com/home The Darcy Legacy! http://engram-au.livejournal.com/tag/legacy:+darcy >> I just don't understand what you are talking about. I was unaware >> that each body colour had a different mesh. When taking out a custom [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > http://rothpoint.googlepages.com/home > The Darcy Legacy! http://engram-au.livejournal.com/tag/legacy:+darcy It sounds almost like the custom skin was simply cloned from the lightest skin tone, much like hair recolors in the early days were almost always cloned from black hair so that the eyebrows on the sim were always black regardless of the haircolor. I thought there was only body meshes to denote the sex and fitness level of the sim. Any and all of the skintones would just be textures over that body mesh, no? Do meshes have colors? I didn't know they did. Jeanie > It sounds almost like the custom skin was simply cloned from the > lightest skin tone, much like hair recolors in the early days were [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > textures over that body mesh, no? Do meshes have colors? I didn't > know they did. And that is exactly my problem. No matter which skintone you clone from, when you take out the custom skintone, even if it's cloned from the Maxis Dark skintone you get left behind with a sim sporting the S2 skintone. I just did it then as a test. I cloned the Maxis darkest skintone and imported it into the game without editing it in any way, then made a sim with it. While wearing the custom copy of the dark skintone, she looked like she was S4. But when I took it out, she was wearing S2. So even though I cloned off S4, when the custom skintone was removed from the game she suddenly turned S2. What I am trying to achieve is for a custom skintone to act as if it was a default replacement without being a default replacement. So that when you put a dark skintone on a sim and then take out the skintone, the sim reverts to S4, not S2 or S1 or whatever the skintone they automatically revert to may be. What I'm trying to say is - for the skintone to act as if all the underlying information really is genetic and that when the skintone is used dark sims stay dark, light sims stay light, etc, whether the skintone is there or not. It's starting to sound like mission impossible because I have no idea what I would need to edit to achieve that sort of thing. Cheers! Engram http://rothpoint.googlepages.com/home The Darcy Legacy! http://engram-au.livejournal.com/tag/legacy:+darcy >> It sounds almost like the custom skin was simply cloned from the >> lightest skin tone, much like hair recolors in the early days were [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > when you take out the custom skintone, even if it's cloned from the Maxis > Dark skintone you get left behind with a sim sporting the S2 skintone. Yes. Unless the custom skin is geneticised and then the Sim should end up with another skin in the same genetic area. > I just did it then as a test. I cloned the Maxis darkest skintone and > imported it into the game without editing it in any way, then made a sim [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > It's starting to sound like mission impossible because I have no idea what > I would need to edit to achieve that sort of thing. Ah, so you want geneticised skins that always overwrite the EA skintone while they are in the game? To acheive this affect I think you'd be better off with two skins - one default and one geneticised. You could even make them the same skin if it was absolutely necessary. MM > Cheers! > Engram > http://rothpoint.googlepages.com/home > The Darcy Legacy! http://engram-au.livejournal.com/tag/legacy:+darcy > Yes. Unless the custom skin is geneticised and then the Sim should > end up with another skin in the same genetic area. That's the problem. Geneticised skintones don't do this. Or at least the ones I did with SimPE don't. I'll try again with WW and see if that makes a difference. I had a look at a couple of SimPE tutorials for geneticising and all of them say the same thing. So that's what I did. And then I put in a skintone that was geneticised at 0.90, make a sim, put them on a lot. Exit game. Take the geneticised skin out of Downloads. Enter game, load lot - formerly dark-skinned sim is now pale. I will try this again with your Enayla skins, see if what you did works differently to what I did. Or maybe the effect only affects CAS sims and those born with the geneticised skintone will retain the genetic code and not displayed the Michael Jackson effect (as I have now christened it)? I suppose I shall have to get me a baby with the geneticised skintone, too... Cheers! Engram http://rothpoint.googlepages.com/home The Darcy Legacy! http://engram-au.livejournal.com/tag/legacy:+darcy Come to binaries, please. I have illustrated examples... That 'light' is just the name. I usually overwrite it with the new name of the skin so that I can see the name of the skin when using 'simdna' in the game. It's the actual numbers in the XML that should be having a bearing on the Sim. If you're seeing something more complex than this then you've moved into territory with which I am unfamiliar. MM >> I just don't understand what you are talking about. I was unaware >> that each body colour had a different mesh. When taking out a custom [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > http://rothpoint.googlepages.com/home > The Darcy Legacy! http://engram-au.livejournal.com/tag/legacy:+darcy |
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