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Ray Dillinger - 26 Dec 2004 18:38 GMT
For games started on christmas day:

    The first nymph you meet should be named 'Mary Christmas.'
    The first troll you meet should be
        'Carol, the ancient Yuletide troll.'
    Reindeer with stats identical to horses should replace horses.
    Shops should be closed. (?)

   
jerk-o - 26 Dec 2004 20:24 GMT
fter going to <http://tinyurl.com/2tnqw> and realizing that it's a
small world after all, Ray Dillinger <bear@sonic.net> said:

>For games started on christmas day:
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>    Reindeer with stats identical to horses should replace horses.
>    Shops should be closed. (?)

What about Santa?  I think he run up to you and grant you a wish for an item if
you've been good (positive alignment and non-negative luck) or summon monsters
if you've been bad.  Then he should vanish.  If you manage to kill Santa, he
drops a bag of tricks.
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Ray Dillinger - 26 Dec 2004 22:04 GMT
> fter going to <http://tinyurl.com/2tnqw> and realizing that it's a
> small world after all, Ray Dillinger <bear@sonic.net> said:
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> if you've been bad.  Then he should vanish.  If you manage to kill Santa, he
> drops a bag of tricks.

Dunno about that...  I always figured Santa for a vampire.  I mean,
look at it: he's been around for hundreds of years without getting any
older, he only comes out at night, he only enters houses where he's
invited, ....  and the flying reindeer are a nice dodge about the
trouble vampires otherwise have about crossing running water.  Plus,
you know he's got something sinister going if he can keep hundreds of
elves enslaved at an isolated compound in the arctic circle -- and oh
yeah, the arctic circle is the right place for vamps, too, since they're
immune to cold.

                Bear
Harnmaster - 01 Jan 2005 01:49 GMT
>Dunno about that...  I always figured Santa for a vampire.  I mean,
>look at it: he's been around for hundreds of years without getting any
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
>                Bear

You know, back in '95, someone else had that idea...

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bebing - 27 Dec 2004 02:46 GMT
> if you've been bad.  Then he should vanish.  If you manage to kill Santa, he
> drops a bag of tricks.

Or a BoH full of loot! Now that I think of it, something like this is alleged
to have happened in the american 'The Waltons' Chirstmas special.
Paul E Collins - 26 Dec 2004 20:48 GMT
> The first nymph you meet should be named 'Mary Christmas.'
> The first troll you meet should be 'Carol, the ancient Yuletide
> troll.'
> Reindeer with stats identical to horses should replace horses.
> Shops should be closed. (?)

Helm of opposite alignment could be replaced with a Santa hat, which
auto-curses when worn and makes you dump random inventory items every
few hundred turns. Ha.

P.
Kent Paul Dolan - 26 Dec 2004 23:29 GMT
> a Santa hat, which
> auto-curses when worn and makes you dump random inventory items every
> few hundred turns.

Not "at random"; every time you meet a humanoid creature of size
"small".

> Ha.

Please. That's "Ho, Ho, Ho!"

xanthian.
Boudewijn Waijers - 27 Dec 2004 13:44 GMT
> For games started on christmas day:

Never knew Chrismas occurred in September...

> The first nymph you meet should be named 'Mary Christmas.'

Please, not *more* references to christianity.

> The first troll you meet should be
> 'Carol, the ancient Yuletide troll.'

Perhaps, but then *only* for a valkyrie.

> Reindeer with stats identical to horses should replace horses.

Which would make extinctionist conduct impossible for the rest of the
year, just like the two above suggestions.

> Shops should be closed. (?)

Then these should also close on every friday (Judaism), saturday
(Islam), and sunday (Christianity).

Please, don't even *think* of including any holy days in NetHack, since
this will only start a holy war about which to include and which not...

No easter killer bunnies, either, please.  :-)

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Janis Papanagnou - 27 Dec 2004 13:57 GMT
>>Shops should be closed. (?)
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Please, don't even *think* of including any holy days in NetHack, since
> this will only start a holy war about which to include and which not...

As long as the shops stay close on 1st of May I'll keep my wand of striking
buried in my bag of holding. :-)

Janis
Boudewijn Waijers - 27 Dec 2004 16:22 GMT
>>> Shops should be closed. (?)

>> Then these should also close on every friday (Judaism), saturday
>> (Islam), and sunday (Christianity).

>> Please, don't even *think* of including any holy days in NetHack,
>> since this will only start a holy war about which to include and
>> which not...

> As long as the shops stay close on 1st of May I'll keep my wand of
> striking buried in my bag of holding. :-)

Well,

In the Netherlands, where I live, the first of May is *no* holiday,
unlike in the majority of the rest of the world. We have no labour day.

Note that we have a holiday the day before that, on April 30st, which is
"Queen's Day" (it was our former queen's birthday, and when her daughter
took over about 25 years ago, it remained on that day; officially as a
token of respect to her mother, but really because the alternative was
to move it to the 31st of January, in the middle of the winter).

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Richard Bos - 28 Dec 2004 20:07 GMT
> > As long as the shops stay close on 1st of May I'll keep my wand of
> > striking buried in my bag of holding. :-)
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> In the Netherlands, where I live, the first of May is *no* holiday,
> unlike in the majority of the rest of the world. We have no labour day.

I always found it rather irrational to have a day off on Labour Day,
anyway. It should really be a day on which people work harder.

Richard
Janis Papanagnou - 28 Dec 2004 22:06 GMT
>>>As long as the shops stay close on 1st of May I'll keep my wand of
>>>striking buried in my bag of holding. :-)
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> I always found it rather irrational to have a day off on Labour Day,
> anyway. It should really be a day on which people work harder.

Irrational only if you take that misnomer literally. But I assume you
know the backgrounds of Labour Day - which might be better(?) called
"Day of the Working Population" -, even if it is non-existing in the
Netherlands.

Janis
(wondering whether "work harder" was to mean "work 24 hours a day" or
"work until collapse")
Boudewijn Waijers - 29 Dec 2004 00:59 GMT
> Irrational only if you take that misnomer literally. But I assume you
> know the backgrounds of Labour Day - which might be better(?) called
> "Day of the Working Population" -, even if it is non-existing in the
> Netherlands.

Indeed. I believe (but correct me if I'm wrong) that the origin comes
from an event where the police shot several workers who were on strike
and demonstrating.

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Richard Bos - 29 Dec 2004 20:49 GMT
> >>In the Netherlands, where I live, the first of May is *no* holiday,
> >>unlike in the majority of the rest of the world. We have no labour day.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> "Day of the Working Population" -, even if it is non-existing in the
> Netherlands.

Of course. But if you're that proud to be working-class, act on it! <g>

Richard
Janis Papanagnou - 29 Dec 2004 21:43 GMT
>>>>In the Netherlands, where I live, the first of May is *no* holiday,
>>>>unlike in the majority of the rest of the world. We have no labour day.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Of course. But if you're that proud to be working-class, act on it! <g>

I see no evidence to deduce from the text that I am working-class nor do I
see any sign of expressed proudness. After all we were just talking about
an (in)appropriate wording.

But since you finished your sentence with a <g> I'll abstain from hitting
you #twoweaponed with my blessed +2 hammer and my rustproof +2 sickle,
while playing the "Internationale"(english term?) on my wooden flute. ;-)

Janis
Richard Bos - 30 Dec 2004 17:52 GMT
> >>>>In the Netherlands, where I live, the first of May is *no* holiday,
> >>>>unlike in the majority of the rest of the world. We have no labour day.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> I see no evidence to deduce from the text that I am working-class nor do I
> see any sign of expressed proudness.

General "you" (aimed at those who invented Labour Day, and those who
celebrate it because it's Labour Day rather than just because it's
another day off), not specific "you" (aimed at Janis Papanagnou).

Richard
Ray Dillinger - 27 Dec 2004 18:55 GMT
>>For games started on christmas day:
>
> Never knew Chrismas occurred in September...

What?  It doesn't.  As nearly as we can tell Yeshua of Nazareth was
born in September, but Christmas is overlaid on the old yuletide
celebrations of the north european pagans.

>>The first nymph you meet should be named 'Mary Christmas.'
>
> Please, not *more* references to christianity.

I'm a pagan.  I didn't suggest this because it was Christian,
I suggested it because it was funny. It is best to retain a
sense of humor about religion, particularly when one is in the
minority.

>>The first troll you meet should be
>>'Carol, the ancient Yuletide troll.'
>
> Perhaps, but then *only* for a valkyrie.

Why valkyries?

>>Reindeer with stats identical to horses should replace horses.

> Which would make extinctionist conduct impossible for the rest of the
> year, just like the two above suggestions.

What?  Extinctionist conduct works exactly the same way; you slaughter
every last one of the animals, regardless of the name the game is
calling them.

>>Shops should be closed. (?)

> Then these should also close on every friday (Judaism), saturday
> (Islam), and sunday (Christianity).

Hmmm.  I guess that would depend on the religion of the individual
shopkeeper, or maybe on a "religious context" preference setting in
the preferences file.

> Please, don't even *think* of including any holy days in NetHack, since
> this will only start a holy war about which to include and which not...

My friend, I will cheerfully advocate including them "all*.  With a
few limits so things don't get completely stupid, such as a particular
shopkeeper only having one religion.

                Bear
Boudewijn Waijers - 28 Dec 2004 11:26 GMT
> I'm a pagan.

I'm an agnost myself.

>>> The first troll you meet should be
>>> 'Carol, the ancient Yuletide troll.'

>> Perhaps, but then *only* for a valkyrie.

> Why valkyries?

Trolls come from Scandinavian myth, just like valkyries.

> What?  Extinctionist conduct works exactly the same way; you slaughter
> every last one of the animals, regardless of the name the game is
> calling them.

Not in the case of named creatures, like the Nazgul or the Erinyes, if I
recall correctly.

> Hmmm.  I guess that would depend on the religion of the individual
> shopkeeper, or maybe on a "religious context" preference setting in
> the preferences file.

Too much of a hassle to implement, I fear...

> My friend, I will cheerfully advocate including them "all*.  With a
> few limits so things don't get completely stupid, such as a particular
> shopkeeper only having one religion.

You'd never be able to include every moronic belief on earth...

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Seraphim - 27 Dec 2004 22:01 GMT
"Boudewijn Waijers" <kroisos@REMOVETHISWORD.home.nl> wrote in news:cqp3jh
$ih7$1@news6.zwoll1.ov.home.nl:

>> Reindeer with stats identical to horses should replace horses.
>
> Which would make extinctionist conduct impossible for the rest of the
> year,

How would this make the extinctionist conduct any more impossible then
things like woodchucks? Horses can be genocided, so one should be able to
reverse-genocide anything with "Stats identical to horses".
Ray Dillinger - 28 Dec 2004 00:05 GMT
> "Boudewijn Waijers" <kroisos@REMOVETHISWORD.home.nl> wrote in news:cqp3jh
> $ih7$1@news6.zwoll1.ov.home.nl:
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> things like woodchucks? Horses can be genocided, so one should be able to
> reverse-genocide anything with "Stats identical to horses".

Oh, wait. I envisioned a much more superficial change; I just thought
that the word "horse" should be mispronounced as "reindeer" in games
begun on chistmas day.  Another actual species has some impact on
extinctionist conducts - but that wasn't what I intended to ask for.

                Bear
Theron - 27 Dec 2004 18:15 GMT
It *would* be pretty funny if there was a chance of a "post-Christmas
sale" on 12/26.
jerk-o - 27 Dec 2004 21:03 GMT
After going to <http://tinyurl.com/2tnqw> and realizing that it's a
small world after all, "Theron" <scary_penguin@hotmail.com> said:

>It *would* be pretty funny if there was a chance of a "post-Christmas
>sale" on 12/26.

Or maybe a post-season sale:
Cheap snow boots for 3 days only starting on the first day of spring.
Cheap tee-shirts for 3 days only starting on the first day of fall.
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Chris 'Bob' Odorjan - 28 Dec 2004 01:34 GMT
> It *would* be pretty funny if there was a chance of a "post-Christmas
> sale" on 12/26.

Or +1 to hit when using hand-to-hand combat. It's Boxing Day, after
all... :-)

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Boudewijn Waijers - 28 Dec 2004 11:28 GMT
> It *would* be pretty funny if there was a chance of a "post-Christmas
> sale" on 12/26.

There are few date-related things in NetHack, to avoid people changing
the system clock for their own benefit.

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Tom Goodman - 28 Dec 2004 22:44 GMT
> For games started on christmas day:
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>    

So, you find a Xmas Pud ! you kill it and it drops a) a silver
threepenny bit, sixpence, two-shilling piece, or half-crown. They are
very effective against the undead, e.g Cliff Richard or against Ebenezer
Scrooge... shopkeepers now have a good supply of whisky, gin, brandy and
rum (the old bold drink of Captain Morgan). You quaff a blessed potion
of rum. You are now wearing a black eye patch (half damage from gaze
attacks), a pig-tail (it is now bad luck to eat the delicious
chippolatas that delicatessens stock for the coming twelve days. On the
other hand your peg-leg is most effective for kicking and gives instant
death to wood golems. Your weapon transmutes into a wicked curved sword
giving an instant kill by disembowelling against Excise Men-a kind of
18th C Leprechaun who materialis and try to confiscate rum, tobacco
(smoke blinds dragons, floating eyes etc; chewed, the juice can be spat
maim ants, beetles and other insects. Gaspers reduce hunger zero, but
increase rum consumption exponentially until you feel full of seasonal
cheer and teleport to the nearest vault, where legless you remain until
sober. If a no-teleport level your legs just refuse to support you in
the manner to which you have hitherto been accustomed and you are rooted
to the spot The Russian Blue parrot (undead) now perched on your
shoulder is a deadly pet, its beak ripping to pieces any leather, cloth,
or skin armour of opponents-most deadly against blue dragons. If a
cockatoo, white dragons are most vulnerable, and so on. A budgerigar
(you are unlucky) will only inflict slight scratches, cosmetic damage,
until it levels up into a parrot, but its incessant chatter causes
hearing monsters to flee and not reappear until after twelth night.
Festive Crackers are available in secondhand armouries and do d+1 damage
if applied to an "unsuspecting" monster. The shop tinsel can be worn to
enhance charisma, its effect being maximum and positive 3 hours after
local opening time, but at all other times giving a negative enhancement.
One bonus of rum-induced piratical transformation would be telescopic
vision, this being obtained by applying the a magic stethoscope to the
eye patch. TV, a kind of x-ray vision paemits you to see through the
external shgields of monsters and a.ses their armour and equipment-a
kind of probing, but female monsters naturally flee and male monsters
are aggravated. Effects proportional to rum consumption in bph, time
since last shot, and after a certain consumption tend to give
"unreliable results" Eventually the effect wears off, everything looks
so mundane and you feel down in the dumps-in fact you fall down in the
dumps and remain there for an interminable period !

A merry Xmas to all festive players !
Kent Paul Dolan - 29 Dec 2004 00:47 GMT
[giggle]

So, Tom, headed off to the grog shop to replenish
the supply of Hair Of The Dog Eggnog depleted in
creating that posting?

xanthian.

YANI: Dipping a cockatrice egg in a potion of booze
while being an elf or being in the presence of elves
creates a potion of NetHack Brand Cheery Holiday
EggNog, and monsters "stoned" by being struck with a
potion of it are incapacitated as if by stunning,
confusion, and hallucination for an interval based
on the PC's luck and dexterity, and wander around
commenting on all the pretty lights and passing
pixies and oblivious to their own safety.

Demons as forces of darkness and despair are of
course especially vulnerable to anything resembling
good spirits, so the PC is +2 to hit everything from
imps to Demon Princes ("i", "&", more?) when
wielding a potion of Eggnog.

Rodney is unfortunately not a demon, but after
living in a dust dry dungeon for eons is covetous
toward eggnog to the point that he'll steal it in
60/40 preference to the "oY if the player has such a
potion visible in his/her knapsack.

Player characters imbibing a potion of eggnog
themselves really couldn't give a rip about the
"mysterious force", and are as likely, when carrying
the "oY up a set of stairs, to go down the set of
stairs on the same level instead, and when drinking
cursed !oGL, to plummet like a rock. Drinking potions
of eggnog severely abuses wisdom, and decreases
intelligence 1d3 until the effects pass. If the PC
manages by multiple imbibing to drive INT to zero,
death is by stupidity or alcohol poisoning, at the
implementor's discretion. If a bones file is created,
the deceased is neither ghost nor statue, but an
otherwise unusable flask/jar/amphora of "pickled fool".
Tom Goodman - 29 Dec 2004 22:08 GMT
> [giggle]
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> xanthian.

Burrrrrrrrp.
 
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