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Game Forum / Action Games / Half Life / February 2008First time noob player has some questions!
Hey all, Why am I a first time player? Well, I didn't have a PC that could run HL2 until this Xmas. I'd heard nothing but lobster-bib quality drool about the game, so I was quite excited to find it at Circuit City tonight for only $10!! However, as much I was mouthing "OMG" during the opening and the first two zones, now I'm wondering if I'll be very glad I'm only out ten bucks. First question: When does the constant f.cking firefight stop?!! I just started Kanal Zone Part 1 and already I feel like I'm on Omaha Beach! Ok, I get the whole military occupation, but I sincerely hope that the entire game is not fraught with this frenetic and frantic assault of chaos and ricochets all the way through! I specifically avoided purchasing Doom 3 because so many people stated how nerve- wracking it was. I've had my fill of first-person shooters. I loved the original Half- Life because the bulk of the gameplay was based on exploration and problem solving, NOT John Woo-style bullet ballets. Second question: Do the CP's constantly replenish, or do I have a hope of "cleaning" an area permanently? The breadth of the visual landscape begs for closer inspection, yet the gameplay seems hellbound on driving the player into the darkest corners, only to peek for a quick glimpse. The world that has been created is incredible to look at, so please assure me that I'll have the opportunity to do so without ducking a constant rain of lead! I've gone to (http://www.visualwalkthroughs.com/halflife2/ halflife2walkthrough.htm) for help so far, but don't want to spoil the discovery. Final question: Any basic tips (other than creep & save!) for making my way without constant running & dodging? I know I've touched the tip of the iceberg, but I really want to know what I'm in for so that I can soldier on knowing that more intricate situations will arise! Thanks in advance for your help! Dave S. > I just started Kanal Zone Part 1 and already I feel like I'm on Omaha > Beach! Ok, I get the whole military occupation, but I sincerely hope > that the entire game is not fraught with this frenetic and frantic > assault of chaos and ricochets all the way through!... It has its moments of stealth and problem solving, but it tends to be a lot of shooting (uh yeah - it's a first-person-shooter) and crap-your-pants frights. You probably wasted your money. If you're wussing about it now, you'll hate Ravenholme. > Do the CP's constantly replenish, or do I have a hope of "cleaning" an > area permanently? The latter - I think even on the hardest difficulty setting, the enemies don't respawn after their initial spawn event. > The breadth of the visual landscape begs for closer inspection You'll be disappointed. HL2 gives a very good feel of size and scope, but each area is just a cleverly designed linear route. > You probably wasted your money. If you're wussing about it now, you'll hate > Ravenholme. OMG, I wasted $10 'cause I'm a WUSSY?! Aw Lawd, take me now! Seriously, my initial post was spiced by a little liquid intoxication, but your response reeks of someone who deeply desires to stake the higher ground while those who scramble earnestly upward for the first time are tossed little curds of *hit from the blessed mountaintop. > You'll be disappointed. HL2 gives a very good feel of size and scope, but > each area is just a cleverly designed linear route. So, do you hate the game or just me? Time to confess, brother!! Dave S. "David Simmons" wrote... > Seriously, my initial post was spiced by a little liquid intoxication, > but your response reeks of someone who deeply desires to stake the > higher ground while those who scramble earnestly upward for the first > time are tossed little curds of *hit from the blessed mountaintop. If you don't like the response, don't post when drunk. :o) >> You'll be disappointed. HL2 gives a very good feel of size and scope, but >> each area is just a cleverly designed linear route. > > So, do you hate the game or just me? Time to confess, brother!! Um - neither. If you want open ended gameplay you need something like GTA. If you want the "feel" of HL2 with a genuinely explorable area (as opposed to the linear path of HL2 and Doom3) I think STALKER is an open environment. > If you don't like the response, don't post when drunk. :o) You know, you're absolutely right. It was a dumb thing to do. I regret it and my snarky reply. Please accept my apologies! What's GTA? Dave S. >> If you don't like the response, don't post when drunk. :o) > > You know, you're absolutely right. It was a dumb thing to do. I > regret it and my snarky reply. Please accept my apologies! :o) No problem. I don't often get upset with stuff I see on usenet, even if it's deliberate. Even with well-intentioned messages, there's no "tone of voice" or "body language" so the only cues to meaning that you get are the words themselves. In direct communication, that's more than 80% of the message, so it's no surprise flame wars start. Often, it's the mood of the RECIPIENT that determines the message being received! > What's GTA? Grand Theft Auto. GTA3, GTA Vice City and GTA San Andreas are large, freely navigable environments. I haven't tried STALKER but it seems to be free roaming, but with more of a HL2 vibe to it.... > :o) No problem. I don't often get upset with stuff I see on usenet, > even if it's deliberate. Even with well-intentioned messages, there's no > "tone of voice" or "body language" so the only cues to meaning that you > get are the words themselves. In direct communication, that's more than > 80% of the message, so it's no surprise flame wars start. Often, it's > the mood of the RECIPIENT that determines the message being received! Grr! how dare you! *shakes fist*  SignatureBen Cottrell "Speedy thing goes in, speedy thing comes out" >> I just started Kanal Zone Part 1 and already I feel like I'm on Omaha >> Beach! Ok, I get the whole military occupation, but I sincerely hope [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > The latter - I think even on the hardest difficulty setting, the > enemies don't respawn after their initial spawn event. Ahhh, but they do in Ravenholm. Try walking around the block a few times, killing everything you see. >> The breadth of the visual landscape begs for closer inspection > > You'll be disappointed. HL2 gives a very good feel of size and scope, > but each area is just a cleverly designed linear route. "KCB" wrote > Ahhh, but they do in Ravenholm. Try walking around the block a few > times, killing everything you see. Yep in Ravenholm they keep coming again and again and again and ....arghhhh - Peter >> The breadth of the visual landscape begs for closer inspection > > You'll be disappointed. HL2 gives a very good feel of size and scope, > but each area is just a cleverly designed linear route. Even if the routes are linear, the wide variety of methods by which you fight your way from A to B is the real draw of the game. The game is packed full of interesting ways to use the environment to help you in your fight against Combine/Aliens/etc. Some are obviously intended, where others are far more subtle. In some cases, they appear to be completely unintentional by the designers, but picked up by people who dared to explore, or try something different on their second time through. SignatureBen Cottrell "Speedy thing goes in, speedy thing comes out" > The game is packed full of interesting ways to use the environment to help > you in your fight against Combine/Aliens/etc. Like eg the lake at the dam, it's an amusement park if anything was I can easily spend an hour or so messing around with the boat on that map - lol - Peter or just Ravenholme? I want to know in advance so I'll be better prepared mentally for the onslaught! Dave S. >or just Ravenholme? I want to know in advance so I'll be better >prepared mentally for the onslaught! > >Dave S. If there appears to be an infinite amount of enemies in HL2 then generally it is because they are spawning until you perform a task that stops it. It never thought there were too many people coming at me in my time playing HL2... Just remember that if they keep coming for you it isn't always the best idea to stay in one place util you've killed them all as sometimes it just won't happen... > It never thought there were too many people coming at me in my time > playing HL2... I cracked it open on difficult on the first go, it took me fricking ages, and it felt like it was never going to stop coming. In many areas I was out of ammo and just had to run. I think in many areas, early and later in the game there are infinite enemies, you won't get time to explore the landscape, and if you do, you'll be disappointed that its so linear. My advice is don't be afraid and run like Forrest Gump! Civilian_Target "Craig Coope" wrote... >>or just Ravenholme? I want to know in advance so I'll be better >>prepared mentally for the onslaught! > If there appears to be an infinite amount of enemies in HL2 then > generally it is because they are spawning until you perform a task > that stops it. > > It never thought there were too many people coming at me in my time > playing HL2... Do the fast zombies that start coming for you when you first meet Father Grigori for real (instead of his continual popping up at random windows, spouting bollocks) spawn indefinitely? I remember a part of HL1 quite early on, where you went down a shaft platform - and a continual stream of headcrabs came out of the ducts above. I might reload it tonight and see if that was never-ending - it certainly seemed so... >"Craig Coope" wrote... >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >Grigori for real (instead of his continual popping up at random windows, >spouting bollocks) spawn indefinitely? If you mean in the cemetery at the very end of Ravenholme then I think yes...If you manage to actually kill them all then the effect of Father Greg fighting 'til his death wouldn't have been pulled off...I did get the impression he would die soon after...did anyone else? >I remember a part of HL1 quite early on, where you went down a shaft >platform - and a continual stream of headcrabs came out of the ducts above. >I might reload it tonight and see if that was never-ending - it certainly >seemed so... possible spolier below.... Can't remember but you may be correct. Ep2 (I think) had infinite spawn zones for the ant lions until you covered the holes with cars... > First question: > > When does the constant f.cking firefight stop?!! The good news is that the constant firefight towards the end of Route Kanal. The bad news is that is replaced by other kinds of attacks. Many nasty monsters with no guns. Followed by an air boat that may take a while to master, combined with more constant firefight. Maybe a little discretion here, for the benefit of our first-timer, we don't want too many spoilers floating around :) SignatureBen Cottrell "Speedy thing goes in, speedy thing comes out" > Maybe a little discretion here, for the benefit of our first-timer, we > don't want too many spoilers floating around :) > > -- > Ben Cottrell I read PC Gamer's full review when the game debuted, so I've heard about the boats and a few other things. I don't consider them spoilers as learning how they work within the context of the game is the challenge. Thanks for the concern though! Dave S. |
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