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Gordon Freeman -- theoretical physicist !?
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Beladi Nasralla - 21 Nov 2007 11:53 GMT Here is an all-time popular game Half-Life 2 and its continuation (Ep1 & Ep2). Its main character is Gordon Freeman, a theoretical physicist who is fighting with the aliens who conquered the Earth, http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Dr._Gordon_Freeman
Wait a minute ! -- He is a _theoretical physicist_ !?
But in my experience the theoretical physicists are the nerds who only can hold a pen in their hands and press the buttons on the computer ! They capitulate in front of the necessity to operate machinery let alone to fight physically with the weapon in their hands. Once I got into the seminar room of a major university -- all of the theoretical physicists had brown scum on inside of their cups (that was tea residue) (while the experimental physicist had their cups squeeky clean -- but that's another topic).
This is what the protege of the aliens ("Benefactors"), Dr Breen, said about Gordon Freeman:
"This brings me to the one note of disappointment I must echo from our Benefactors. . .How could one man have slipped through your force's fingers time and time again? How is it possible? This is not some agent provocateur or highly trained assassin we are discussing. Gordon Freeman is a theoretical physicist who had hardly earned the distinction of his Ph.D. at the time of the Black Mesa Incident. . .The man you have consistently failed to slow, let alone capture, is by all standards simply that -- an ordinary man." http://au.gamespot.com/users/carolynmichelle/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=m-100- 25205263
It looks to me that the game developers screwed in here, reflecting the publicly held belief that physicists are the creations of the other planet and are godly creatures, while in effect they are one of the most miserable, despised and unsuccessful classes of workers (especially when compared with plumbers and electricians) ...
Old Pif - 21 Nov 2007 13:45 GMT > Wait a minute ! -- He is a _theoretical physicist_ !? > > But in my experience the theoretical physicists are the nerds who only > can hold a pen in their hands and press the buttons on the computer ! http://www.mlahanas.de/Physics/Bios/JohnRobertSchrieffer.html
and go to the bottom of the page.
Beladi Nasralla - 21 Nov 2007 19:30 GMT > > Wait a minute ! -- He is a _theoretical physicist_ !? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > and go to the bottom of the page. Hm. Theoretical physicists _can_ kill, too.
Old Pif - 22 Nov 2007 01:28 GMT > > > Wait a minute ! -- He is a _theoretical physicist_ !? > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Hm. Theoretical physicists _can_ kill, too. Dr. Fabrikant.
Beladi Nasralla - 22 Nov 2007 06:56 GMT > > > > Wait a minute ! -- He is a _theoretical physicist_ !? > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Dr. Fabrikant. He does not count, because he did killings in the state of affect. He did not do killings cold-bloodedly. If he did, he would kill much more.
Old Pif - 22 Nov 2007 14:22 GMT > > > > > Wait a minute ! -- He is a _theoretical physicist_ !? > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > did not do killings cold-coldblooded. If he did, he would kill much > more. Theoretical physicists live in the state of affect. All what they do, they do in that state.
BigJim - 21 Nov 2007 14:41 GMT repeat this over and over " it's only a game" you will be fine in no time.
> Here is an all-time popular game Half-Life 2 and its continuation (Ep1 > & Ep2). Its main character is Gordon Freeman, a theoretical physicist [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > the most miserable, despised and unsuccessful classes of workers > (especially when compared with plumbers and electricians) ... Puppet_Sock - 21 Nov 2007 15:53 GMT [hero in computer game is...]
> Wait a minute ! -- He is a _theoretical physicist_ !? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=&xml=/earth/2007/1 1/14/scisurf114.xml
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movieman5230@yahoo.com - 21 Nov 2007 16:54 GMT > But in my experience the theoretical physicists are the nerds who only > can hold a pen in their hands and press the buttons on the computer ! I'm sure Richard Feynman would have kicked a.s with a gravity gun, MP5; and he'd have done the accompanying music on his bongo drums at the same time.
Ben Cottrell - 21 Nov 2007 17:42 GMT > Here is an all-time popular game Half-Life 2 and its continuation (Ep1 > & Ep2). Its main character is Gordon Freeman, a theoretical physicist > who is fighting with the aliens who conquered the Earth, > http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Dr._Gordon_Freeman > > Wait a minute ! -- He is a _theoretical physicist_ !? Does that come as a shock to you? Didn't you read the manual that came with the original game, from Dr. Kleiner?
> It looks to me that the game developers screwed in here, reflecting > the publicly held belief that physicists are the creations of the > other planet and are godly creatures, while in effect they are one of > the most miserable, despised and unsuccessful classes of workers > (especially when compared with plumbers and electricians) ... Any particular reason you crossposted this to a couple of science and physics newsgroups, except for the purpose of trolling?
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Ben Cottrell - 21 Nov 2007 17:43 GMT > Does that come as a shock to you? Didn't you read the manual that came > with the original game, from Dr. Kleiner? Oops, that should have read 'the letter from Dr.Kleiner'.
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Dan C - 21 Nov 2007 19:49 GMT > Any particular reason you crossposted this to a couple of science and > physics newsgroups, except for the purpose of trolling? Any particular reason you replied to a troll post, knowing it to be one in the first place?
Yeah. That's what I thought.
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gamefixer - 21 Nov 2007 19:37 GMT > Here is an all-time popular game Half-Life 2 and its continuation (Ep1 > & Ep2). Its main character is Gordon Freeman, a theoretical physicist > who is fighting with the aliens who conquered the Earth,http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Dr._Gordon_Freeman > > Wait a minute ! -- He is a _theoretical physicist_ !? Way too much time and thought put into a VIDEO GAME character.
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Blig Merk - 22 Nov 2007 01:16 GMT It looks like the only thing weak here is your closed minded stereotype of what a theoretical physicist *SHOULD* be in a video game, not what they *ARE* in reality. A lot of young theoretical physicists these days are very athletic, as well as brilliant, like this guy in the news recently, that is developing the Grand Unified Theory. BTW, he splits his time between Hawaii surfing and Lake Tahoe snowboarding. He is a real life Gordon Freeman.
His website http://sifter.org/~aglisi/Surfing/surfing.html http://sifter.org/~aglisi/Surfing/G_honolua_big.jpg http://sifter.org/~aglisi/Surfing/G_parking_big.jpg http://sifter.org/~aglisi/Surfing/carveabasin.JPG http://sifter.org/~aglisi/Surfing/sky.gif
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,311952,00.html A surfer dude with no fixed address may be this century's Einstein.
A. Garrett Lisi, a physicist who divides his time between surfing in Maui and teaching snowboarding in Lake Tahoe, has come up with what may be the Grand Unified Theory.
That's the "holy grail" of physics that scientists have been searching for ever since Albert Einstein presented his General Theory of Relativity nearly 100 years ago.
Even more remarkable is that Lisi, who has a Ph.D. but no permanent university affiliation, solves the problem without resorting to exotic dimensions, string theory or exceptionally complex mathematics.
A successful Grand Unified Theory would use a series of equations to show how the four fundamental forces of nature -- gravity, electromagnetism and the strong and weak nuclear forces -- relate to each other.
Electromagnetism and the weak nuclear force, which controls radioactivity, were linked more than 30 years ago, and some progress has been made with linking them to the strong nuclear force, which binds protons together in the atomic nucleus.
But gravity has always been an outlier. Not only have all attempts to link gravity to the other three forces failed, but physicists still can't agree on what gravity actually is or how it works.
Lisi solves this by using the E8 lattice, an eight-dimensional structure visualized earlier this year in a widely circulated paper.
He noticed that several of the equations used to describe the lattice matched those he'd come up with trying to resolve the four fundamental forces.
"The moment this happened my brain exploded with the implications and the beauty of the thing," Lisi tells New Scientist magazine. "I thought: 'Holy crap, that's it!'"
By mapping known subatomic particles, plus 20 imaginary ones, onto the 248 points of the E8 lattice, and then rotating the lattice in a computer model, Lisi shows how the particles elegantly combine to form three of the four forces.
The imaginary ones combine to form gravity, for which subatomic particles have only been theorized.
"Some incredibly beautiful stuff falls out of Lisi's theory," David Ritz Finkelstein of Georgia Tech tells New Scientist. "I think that this must be more than coincidence and he really is touching on something profound."
But Professor Marcus du Sautoy of Oxford tells Britain's Daily Telegraph that "there seem to be a lot of things still to fill in."
For his part, Lisi self-mockingly calls his finding "An Exceptionally Simple Theory of Everything," and downplays the suggestion that it may be the Grand Unified Theory.
"The theory is very young, and still in development," he tells the Daily Telegraph. "Right now, I'd assign a low (but not tiny) likelihood to this prediction."
He hopes the Large Hadron Collider, or LHC, currently being built on the Swiss-French border will find some of his 20 imaginary gravity- related particles.
"This is an all-or-nothing kind of theory -- it's either going to be exactly right, or spectacularly wrong," Lisi tells New Scientist. "I'm the first to admit this is a long shot. But it ain't over till the LHC sings."
> Here is an all-time popular game Half-Life 2 and its continuation (Ep1 > & Ep2). Its main character is Gordon Freeman, a theoretical physicist [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > the most miserable, despised and unsuccessful classes of workers > (especially when compared with plumbers and electricians) ... riku - 22 Nov 2007 12:06 GMT >But in my experience the theoretical physicists are the nerds who only >can hold a pen in their hands and press the buttons on the computer ! My experience is that many of the university pencil-neck nerds train on martial arts. Maybe not muay thai and krav maga, but more "spiritual" arts like aikido, traditional karate, taijutsu, different kung fu styles, traditional archery etc.
Maybe that does not make them Green Berets or SEALs, but anyway... ;)
Robotech_Master - 25 Nov 2007 21:08 GMT > Wait a minute ! -- He is a _theoretical physicist_ !? Eh.
You might as well ask why it is that the hazard suit used by science researchers at a particle physics institute has a HUD that can interface with all manner of military weapon systems. (I personally think that because of a contract low bid, the government ended up with more OpFor Combat Vest processors than they could use, so they just stuck them in the hazard suit without bothering to remove the military code.)
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rick++ - 26 Nov 2007 15:39 GMT James Gates the super-symmetry expert and frequent commentator on PBS science shows has goofy hair like Einstein. It hangs from the sides dog ears. I guess goofy hair must be the symbol of a theroetical physicist :-)
Tzortzakakis Dimitrios - 24 May 2008 16:53 GMT > Here is an all-time popular game Half-Life 2 and its continuation (Ep1 > & Ep2). Its main character is Gordon Freeman, a theoretical physicist [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > the most miserable, despised and unsuccessful classes of workers > (especially when compared with plumbers and electricians) ... Yes-but does an electrician earn enough money to buy HL2 (a game with a theoretical physicist). Does a theoretical physicist earn enough money to buy Super Mario (a game with a plumber). Paradox?
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Darwin123 - 24 May 2008 17:18 GMT On May 24, 11:53 am, "Tzortzakakis Dimitrios" <no...@nospam.void> wrote:
> > Here is an all-time popular game Half-Life 2 and its continuation (Ep1 > > & Ep2). Its main character is Gordon Freeman, a theoretical physicist [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > theoretical physicist). Does a theoretical physicist earn enough money to > buy Super Mario (a game with a plumber). Paradox? You are demonstrating technician arrogance. Technicians, both hardware and software, work with tiny pieces of the puzzle. They work with problems that are smaller then themselves. They work with little bitty problems that they can solve, totally. So they develop the altitude that the entire universe is smaller than themselves. They don't have to worry if their solution is logically self consistent with any other problem. So their solutions tend to fall apart when applied outside that little bitty problem. Some technicians (not all) become the tools they work with, and can't work with anything else. They hide this fact from others and themselves by becoming very arrogant. They claim broad knowledge and insights that they do not have. However, they are not always appreciated fully. People evaluate the technicians in terms of the small size of the problems they work with. A theoretical physicist works with problems that are larger then themselves. Sometimes, often can't totally solve the problem. It's true, they are just people who can't know everything. However, when they do solve a problem it is very general and applicable to a wider range of problems. So because this occasionally happens, they get admired and rewarded. People evaluate the physics profession in terms of the large size of the problems they work with. Those computer games you make fun of are seldom constructed by theoretical physicists. They are usually constructed by professional computer programmers, and played by even less intellectual people. People who play these games get lost in their own fantasy worlds. Their lives outside of the computer often revolve around some superstitions, based on some "intuition" they never question. People evaluate the profession in terms of the size of the problems they work with. If you work on a small problem, you become known as a worker of small problems. If you work on a large problem, you become known as a worker of large problems. I think technicians should be better appreciated. However, no one should smear other people who work on different problems.
Old Pif - 24 May 2008 17:49 GMT > A theoretical physicist works with problems that are larger then > themselves. These are those from cosmology, those from quantum field theory deal with the problems that much smaller than themselves ... so to speak ...
Tim O - 25 May 2008 01:30 GMT > You are demonstrating technician arrogance. Technicians, both >hardware and software, work with tiny pieces of the puzzle. They work [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > I think technicians should be better appreciated. However, no one >should smear other people who work on different problems. I'm just a regular dummy, but I'm smart enough to know the original post is like 6 months old, on top of being from a newsgroup troll.
Maybe work on that problem.
Tzortzakakis Dimitrios - 25 May 2008 17:39 GMT >> You are demonstrating technician arrogance. Technicians, both >>hardware and software, work with tiny pieces of the puzzle. They work [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Maybe work on that problem. ee, kamaimasen yo, as the japanese say, yes, of course.
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Tzortzakakis Dimitrios - 25 May 2008 17:30 GMT > On May 24, 11:53 am, "Tzortzakakis Dimitrios" <no...@nospam.void> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] > I think technicians should be better appreciated. However, no one > should smear other people who work on different problems. That's why the former are scientists, while the latter are technicians/engineers.
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