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Game Forum / Action Games / Half Life / November 2007bunny-hopping in TF2 ?
Hi everyone, I hate bunny-hopping in HL2DM. I think in most cases it does not have anything to do with skill; it is just a script. The players get the unfair advantage. I heard that the multiplayer game Team Fortress 2 from the Orange Box (which I have not got yet) is good. Is it prone to similar exploits ? (Othervise, I would reconsider my intention to get Orange Box...) > Hi everyone, > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > (which I have not got yet) is good. Is it prone to similar exploits ? > (Othervise, I would reconsider my intention to get Orange Box...) Not as far as I have noticed and I've played it for a good few solid hours. > Hi everyone, > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > (which I have not got yet) is good. Is it prone to similar exploits ? > (Othervise, I would reconsider my intention to get Orange Box...) I don't recall seeing it. I think the gameplay is a bit too frantic for bunny hopping to give an advantage. >> Hi everyone, >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I don't recall seeing it. I think the gameplay is a bit too frantic for > bunny hopping to give an advantage. Only soldiers jump around alot, but that's to get a better angle when shooting at the enemies feet. -- Les Chuck Norris' hand is the only hand that can beat a Royal Flush. >> Hi everyone, >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >I don't recall seeing it. I think the gameplay is a bit too frantic for >bunny hopping to give an advantage. I think the very nature of it being frantic means bunny hopping is a definite advantage. I play it a lot and and you most often see Scouts bunny hoping and the occasional soldier but that's it. >I think the very nature of it being frantic means bunny hopping is a definite >advantage. I play it a lot and and you most often see Scouts bunny hoping and >the occasional soldier but that's it. For the scout, that's by design though. Cheers, Rod. > Hi everyone, > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > (which I have not got yet) is good. Is it prone to similar exploits ? > (Othervise, I would reconsider my intention to get Orange Box...) The scouts hop around alot but that is part of the tactics of using them. they are fast runners and get a double hop but are easy to kill. So the way you survive and kill with them is double hop around your target for the height so you can fire at your target while avoid them. Works good unless another enemy is at a distance then they can just aim where you will be hopping and get a quick kill. On Nov 4, 4:07 am, william.dieter...@googlemail.com wrote: > > Hi everyone, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > them. Works good unless another enemy is at a distance then they can > just aim where you will be hopping and get a quick kill. The nature of bunny-hopping in HL2DM is that the practitioner of the art can move faster (twice as fast ?) than an ordinary player. This has to do with the pecularity of the gaming engine: when the player turns, he gets a burst of speed. So that the bunny-hopping is the succession of turnings. The higher speed and the longer jumps is what gives such a player an unfair advantage. So my question is: is it possible in principle to do such a bunny- hopping in TF2 ? (If it's possible, then I am sure there will be the people who could use it to their advantage.) >So my question is: is it possible in principle to do such a bunny- >hopping in TF2 ? (If it's possible, then I am sure there will be the >people who could use it to their advantage.) Not in my experience. Cheers, Rod. > So my question is: is it possible in principle to do such a bunny- > hopping in TF2 ? (If it's possible, then I am sure there will be the > people who could use it to their advantage.) You occasionally meet a 'bouncy' solider but, to be honest, they're not really any more difficult to kill. > You occasionally meet a 'bouncy' solider but, to be honest, they're not > really any more difficult to kill. probably easier to kill, since they lose a quarter of their health when they rocket-jump :-)  SignatureBen Cottrell AKA Bench >> So my question is: is it possible in principle to do such a bunny- >> hopping in TF2 ? (If it's possible, then I am sure there will be the >> people who could use it to their advantage.) > >You occasionally meet a 'bouncy' solider but, to be honest, they're not >really any more difficult to kill. No, they just die tired. > The nature of bunny-hopping in HL2DM is that the practitioner of the > art can move faster (twice as fast ?) than an ordinary player. All classes in TF have different movement speeds - the scout is the 'flag runner' class, therefore his natural run speed is twice as fast as any other class. To counter that, he has low armour & weak weaponry (Well, the shotgun is fairly powerful, but no match to the HWG/Soldier/Pyro/etc). The scout also has a unique ability which allows him to double-jump. This is similar to a bunnyhop in that it works by jumping in mid-air, although there's no speed increase, it merely increases the distance which the scout can jump, and is a deliberate scout ability, rather than an exploit (No other class can do it). > So my question is: is it possible in principle to do such a bunny- > hopping in TF2 ? (If it's possible, then I am sure there will be the > people who could use it to their advantage.) Not that I've seen. The style of teamplay that TF employs makes such exploits rather useless anyway - a lone gunner who runs past the entrance to the enemy base will find himself blown up by grenades, or burned to a crisp by a pyro, or turned to swiss cheese by a a sentry gun, or.. SignatureBen Cottrell AKA Bench >> The nature of bunny-hopping in HL2DM is that the practitioner of the >> art can move faster (twice as fast ?) than an ordinary player. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > deliberate scout ability, rather than an exploit (No other class can do > it). The scout can also change direction in mid-air which makes he even more difficult to hit. Still one of my favourite kills though was when I hit one in mid-air with the RPG - that made a mess! >> So my question is: is it possible in principle to do such a bunny- >> hopping in TF2 ? (If it's possible, then I am sure there will be the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > burned to a crisp by a pyro, or turned to swiss cheese by a a sentry > gun, or.. I've played about 20 hours so far and can't say I've seen this at all. In fact I haven't heard of any 'gamemanship flaws' that have been exposed in TF2 as yet. So far it seems to be a well balanced and fun game and to make it even better it's surprising free of the idiots that can spoil other online games. >>> The nature of bunny-hopping in HL2DM is that the practitioner of the >>> art can move faster (twice as fast ?) than an ordinary player. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >difficult to hit. Still one of my favourite kills though was when I hit >one in mid-air with the RPG - that made a mess! Yeah, I like to doing that. It's like skeet shooting. I try that on the 2Fort level waiting below the bridge where they try to leap across. > To counter that, he has low armour & weak weaponry (Well, the shotgun is > fairly powerful, but no match to the HWG/Soldier/Pyro/etc). Whoa! Easy Tiger! The Scout's scattergun is probably the most overpowered gun in the whole game. It's said to be 'lethal at close range' but it's a lot better at medium/long ranges than it ought to be. In TFC, scouts were worse than useless; in TF2 they are one of the more popular classes on certain maps. As for bunny-hopping, I'm happy for scouts to do it - it's a vital defence mechanism - but I still dont like it when other classes do it; I think all classes apart from scouts should have some sort of penalty after jumping. I've seen a few Soldiers BH'ing, but more noticeable have been the Demomen, and I think it is by design - Demomen are all about 'nade spamming and jumping about. The grenade launcher isn't a precision weapon, and Demo's are often defensive roles, so just being an annoying and persistent adversary is often their aim. > Whoa! Easy Tiger! The Scout's scattergun is probably the most overpowered gun > in the whole game. It's said to be 'lethal at close range' but it's a lot > better at medium/long ranges than it ought to be. In TFC, scouts were worse > than useless; Oh, I'm going to have to delurk to take issue with that! Worse than useless? They may have had very weak armament, but killing wasn't a scout's role. Getting in fast, stealing flags and capping points was the scout's purpose in life. Scouts were the game winners, the glory seekers, though of course they needed the back-up of their well-armed comrades. That's what made TFC such a great team game. I loved being a scout in TFC, mostly because it was a role I could play well even though I can't hit the broad side of a barn ;) Far from useless. Can't vouch for how they perform in TF2, I haven't installed it yet. From what I read, a scout with decent armament sounds like a very different playing style. Stopping to circle-strafe an HWG?? There's no time for that! Run, man, run!! :D -- Paul Damn, cross-post, sorry. -- Paul (Johnny_Ace) >> Whoa! Easy Tiger! The Scout's scattergun is probably the most overpowered gun >> in the whole game. It's said to be 'lethal at close range' but it's a lot [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > -- > Paul Well that's an issue with the scout I found that might be changed later is that the scout's 'scatter gun' it's called is so friggin powerful. I don't usually go scout but I have taken out soldiers with it. You can bounce around and move quicker than his rockets and 3 good shots he's done. But nothing beats picking off a scout mid-air in 2Fort. Seem one leaping across the bridge roof and took him out with a headshot. Of course more luck than skill but it looked good. :-) SignatureJethro[AGHL] aka Phat_Jethro Reply Email: jethro86 (at) gmail (dot) com |
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