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Norma - 25 Oct 2007 15:58 GMT
Sorry that this is off topic!  I have been trying to read
comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action but I can't get any messages from it.  Has
something happened to it?  I haven't been on for a long time and now I need
advice on new video cards and I rely on those guys!  Can anybody tell me
about the newsgroup?  Did you all go somewhere else?

I want a good new card to play HL2 with.

Norma
Stone Monkey - 25 Oct 2007 16:30 GMT
> Sorry that this is off topic!  I have been trying to read
> comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action but I can't get any messages from it.
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>
> Norma

Works fine for me, quite a few of the regulars in the frequent here too so
you could try posting here and you might get a response
Andrew - 25 Oct 2007 16:39 GMT
>Sorry that this is off topic!  I have been trying to read
>comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action but I can't get any messages from it.  Has
>something happened to it?  I haven't been on for a long time and now I need
>advice on new video cards and I rely on those guys!  Can anybody tell me
>about the newsgroup?  Did you all go somewhere else?

It is there just fine. You may like to try a better Usenet client as
OE is terrible.
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Mike Roman - 26 Oct 2007 09:43 GMT
> >Sorry that this is off topic!  I have been trying to read
> >comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action but I can't get any messages from it.  Has
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> It is there just fine. You may like to try a better Usenet client as
> OE is terrible.

Nonsense, nothing wrong with OE and it certainly won't be the reason he
can't find the other group.

Try using another news server - http://www.teranews.com/ was very good
the last time I used it.
Dan C - 26 Oct 2007 15:12 GMT
>> It is there just fine. You may like to try a better Usenet client as
>> OE is terrible.

> Nonsense, nothing wrong with OE

Hahahahahaha!  HAR!  LOL!

Good one!

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Peter [AGHL] - 26 Oct 2007 16:51 GMT
>>> It is there just fine. You may like to try a better Usenet client as
>>> OE is terrible.
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> Hahahahahaha!  HAR!  LOL!
> Good one!

Actually OE is working quite well
I have been using OE as a usenet client for approx 10 years now

Ahh ok you just need a small utillity called EO-QuoteFix
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/

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Dan C - 26 Oct 2007 18:55 GMT
>>> Nonsense, nothing wrong with OE

>> Hahahahahaha!  HAR!  LOL!
>> Good one!

> Actually OE is working quite well
> I have been using OE as a usenet client for approx 10 years now

Maybe you think that because you've not experienced what a real
newsreader client can do...

> Ahh ok you just need a small utillity called EO-QuoteFix

No, perhaps *you* need that, but I don't.

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Peter [AGHL] - 26 Oct 2007 19:39 GMT
> Maybe you think that because you've not experienced what a real
> newsreader client can do...

Why bother?
If it ain't broken don't try fix it - you might end up breakin' it

>> Ahh ok you just need a small utillity called EO-QuoteFix
>
> No, perhaps *you* need that, but I don't.

It is designed for OE solely so I'll assume that you're correct in the
matters

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Dan C - 27 Oct 2007 01:52 GMT
>> Maybe you think that because you've not experienced what a real
>> newsreader client can do...

> Why bother?
> If it ain't broken don't try fix it - you might end up breakin' it

Why bother?  Because of all the features you'd get to use, and have a more
enjoyable Usenet experience.  As for breaking anything...  it won't hurt
OE any, and if you don't like the new application, you can go back to OE
with no harm done.  Expand your horizons a little, and see what you've
been missing.

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Peter [AGHL] - 27 Oct 2007 06:56 GMT
> Why bother?  Because of all the features you'd get to use, and have a
> more enjoyable Usenet experience.

A lot of promises and no facts
What are you? A salesperson?

> As for breaking anything...  it won't hurt OE any, and if you don't
> like the new application, you can go back to OE with no harm done.
> Expand your horizons a little, and see what you've been missing.

As I said I am not missing a thing compared to the lack of facts you have
managed to present to me and everydy else

1) What client are you talking about?
2) What features etc

Let's get some facts on the table

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Dan C - 27 Oct 2007 15:10 GMT
>> Why bother?  Because of all the features you'd get to use, and have a
>> more enjoyable Usenet experience.

> A lot of promises and no facts  What are you? A salesperson?

Promises?  Uhhh, right.  Features include scoring, filtering, proper
threading, proper quoting, multiple news servers, more.

>> As for breaking anything...  it won't hurt OE any, and if you don't
>> like the new application, you can go back to OE with no harm done.
>> Expand your horizons a little, and see what you've been missing.

> As I said I am not missing a thing compared to the lack of facts you have
> managed to present to me and everydy else

Look, n00b, I don't really care whether you do it or not.  Just trying to
point out that Outhouse Excuse is at the *botton* of the barrel when it
comes to newsreaders.  Anyone who knows anything about Usenet knows this,
and doesn't use OE.  Whether you accept that or not makes no difference,
it's just a simple fact.

> 1) What client are you talking about?

I don't use Windoze, but I understand most Win-droids like Forte Agent, or
Xnews.  You could try those for starters.

> 2) What features etc

Some are listed above, there are more.

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Peter [AGHL] - 27 Oct 2007 15:59 GMT
> Promises?  Uhhh, right.  Features include
> scoring,

No need

> filtering,

No need

> proper threading,

No problem with threadin'

> proper quoting

Works ok for me

>, multiple news servers,

Works ok, no need
Yes I can use multiple nntp servers if I want

> more.

What, Which?

> Look, n00b,

Sorry but you need to get your facts straighten out
I have been on usenet since '98 and used the internet before the first
netscape browsers hit win 3.1
Before that I used a Discovery 2400 baud modem to get access to BBS and
fidonet
My first PC was an 8088 Intel machinery with a 20Mb harddrive - bigtime

> I don't really care whether you do it or not.

Oh right - already getten tired?

> Just trying to point out that Outhouse Excuse is at the *botton*
> of the barrel when it comes to newsreaders.

Still it suites my purposes and have done it for a long time

> Anyone who knows anything about Usenet knows this,
> and doesn't use OE.

When it comes down it - I beleive I know more about usenet than you'll ever
learn in a lifetime

> Whether you accept that or not makes no difference,
> it's just a simple fact.

First of all real usenetters have respect for each others opinions ...

>> 1) What client are you talking about?
>
> I don't use Windoze,

Leanass then?

> but I understand most Win-droids like Forte
> Agent, or Xnews.  You could try those for starters.

Again why should I bother?
You haven't pointed out anything which will make my life easier other than
try this and that

>> 2) What features etc
>
> Some are listed above, there are more.

Come on what IS the groundbreaking changes which will make my life on usenet
so much easier?
Or are you just trying to get into an argument about useless usenets clients
in lack of better things to do?
You're an very unsuccessfull, lonesome and friendless troll as I see it!

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(O)enone - 27 Oct 2007 19:57 GMT
>> Anyone who knows anything about Usenet knows this,
>> and doesn't use OE.
>
> When it comes down it - I beleive I know more about usenet than
> you'll ever learn in a lifetime

Just thought I'd stick my oar in and say that I use OE for email and usenet,
and I've always found it a perfectly satisfactory application too. In
combination with OE-QuoteFix (for email and newsgroups) and POPFile (for
email) it does bang on exactly what I want.

I've tried lots of other email clients and newsreaders over the years,
including Thunderbird and XNews, and have always come happily back to OE.

So you're not alone, Peter. :)

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Jethro - 29 Oct 2007 14:11 GMT
>>> Anyone who knows anything about Usenet knows this,
>>> and doesn't use OE.
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>
> So you're not alone, Peter. :)

Well I use OE for email and Thunderbird for News. I started with
newsgroups using Nutscrape and got into the keyboard usages.
The only reason I use Thunderbird is so that I can press "n" for next
message and "t" for next thread.
OE uses CTRL-U and CTRL-Shift-U and I just want to cruise through groups
hammering the N or T. Just more efficient I find. Oh and it under lines
misspelled words in read (like Word) and Ctrl-K for spell check.
Just like the keyboard shortcuts is all.

J

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Shawk - 29 Oct 2007 21:14 GMT
>>>> Anyone who knows anything about Usenet knows this,
>>>> and doesn't use OE.
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> misspelled words in read (like Word) and Ctrl-K for spell check.
> Just like the keyboard shortcuts is all.

...and of course the most important shortcut... 'k'
Dan C - 27 Oct 2007 23:21 GMT
>> Some are listed above, there are more.

> Come on what IS the groundbreaking changes which will make my life on usenet
> so much easier?

You're not interested in learning, and I've wasted enough time on you.
Have fun.

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Shawk - 25 Oct 2007 17:56 GMT
> Sorry that this is off topic!  I have been trying to read
> comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action but I can't get any messages from it.  Has
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> I want a good new card to play HL2 with.

NG is working fine here.

Check your provider carries it (be unusual if it didn't) then
unsubscribe and resubscribe.  Worked for me when I had an issue some
time ago.  If not then rest the NG by right clicking on it, selecting
properties, local files tab and hitting the reset button (it may be
slightly different depending on which version of OE you have).

As Stone monkey says there are some regs of that group also lurk in here
so if you can't get it to work properly you can try here.

Also, as Andrew says - you might want to try another newsreader.
Personally I love Thunderbird from Mozilla
Scott Richardson - 26 Oct 2007 03:24 GMT
Shawk:  tell me about Thunderbird. I use Outlook Express. If I used
Thunderbird, would I need a new email address? Would it change my newsgroup
"connection?" provider through charter (nnpt.charter.net)?  Thanks for the
information. Scott in Austin MN
>> Sorry that this is off topic!  I have been trying to read
>> comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action but I can't get any messages from it.  Has
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> Also, as Andrew says - you might want to try another newsreader.
> Personally I love Thunderbird from Mozilla
Andrew - 26 Oct 2007 06:28 GMT
>Shawk:  tell me about Thunderbird. I use Outlook Express. If I used
>Thunderbird, would I need a new email address? Would it change my newsgroup
>"connection?" provider through charter (nnpt.charter.net)?  Thanks for the
>information. Scott in Austin MN

You can use any Usenet client with the same settings as you have in
OE. Unfortunately you are using your real email address so you are
likely to have a lot of spam headed your way.
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Ben Cottrell - 26 Oct 2007 10:36 GMT
> Unfortunately you are using your real email address so you are
> likely to have a lot of spam headed your way.

Depends on his spam filter.   I've had my e-mail address advertised all
over usenet for about the past 8 years, and the amount of spam I get is
minimal.

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Peter [AGHL] - 26 Oct 2007 11:57 GMT
> Depends on his spam filter.   I've had my e-mail address advertised
> all over usenet for about the past 8 years, and the amount of spam I
> get is minimal.

I have been using gmail for quite some time
Their spam and junkmail filters are very effective

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Ben Cottrell - 26 Oct 2007 12:18 GMT
>>Depends on his spam filter.   I've had my e-mail address advertised
>>all over usenet for about the past 8 years, and the amount of spam I
>>get is minimal.
>
> I have been using gmail for quite some time
> Their spam and junkmail filters are very effective

Yeah, my gmail account never gets spam either, although, unfortunately,
most of my user handles for various websites are registered to my above
email address, hence, that is the address which gets most of my attention :)

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Squat - 26 Oct 2007 14:25 GMT
>> Depends on his spam filter.   I've had my e-mail address advertised
>> all over usenet for about the past 8 years, and the amount of spam I
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>
> - Peter
Quick question, can you use G-mail without a web interface? (I.E., using OE
or Thunderbird to send/recieve messages from G-mail?
Squat
Peter [AGHL] - 26 Oct 2007 15:23 GMT
> Quick question, can you use G-mail without a web interface? (I.E.,
> using OE or Thunderbird to send/recieve messages from G-mail?

I am using OE atm so I believe I can confirm this as a yes :)

POP Access
http://mail.google.com/support/bin/topic.py?topic=1555

IMAP Access
http://mail.google.com/support/bin/topic.py?topic=12760

Features
http://mail.google.com/support/?ctx=about

Also check what's new list
http://mail.google.com/mail/help/about_whatsnew.html

A lot of interesting stuff :)

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Squat - 26 Oct 2007 16:47 GMT
Awesome, thanks,
I may have to start using that account. I never give out my home address and
use theYahoo account for most stuff.
Have had the G-mail account forever but never used the silly thing.
Thanks,
S

>> Quick question, can you use G-mail without a web interface? (I.E.,
>> using OE or Thunderbird to send/recieve messages from G-mail?
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>
> - Peter
Peter [AGHL] - 26 Oct 2007 16:49 GMT
> Have had the G-mail account forever but never used the silly thing.

About time I'd say :)

> Thanks,

You're quite welcome

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Andrew - 26 Oct 2007 17:18 GMT
>Quick question, can you use G-mail without a web interface? (I.E., using OE
>or Thunderbird to send/recieve messages from G-mail?

Yes, but personally I like the web interface so much I have abandoned
using an email client.

I just wish Google could do to Groups what they have done to Reader so
all I would need is a web browser for all my net application needs.
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Shawk - 26 Oct 2007 18:54 GMT
> Shawk:  tell me about Thunderbird. I use Outlook Express. If I used
> Thunderbird, would I need a new email address? Would it change my newsgroup
> "connection?" provider through charter (nnpt.charter.net)?  Thanks for the
> information. Scott in Austin MN

IIRC when I installed it I was asked whether I wanted T-Bird to import
my settings from OE and I said yes.  Nothing else was required.  T-Bird
will use all the same settings as you have now.  Try it.  Any problems
just ask in here - lots of folk use it and can help.

As to Andrews comment on using your own e-mail address I do disguise
mine as you can see however I do it in such a way that a 'real' person
can always work out what it is if they want to contact me.  Others use
completely made up one's and others (like Bench) use their real ones
with no issue.  Personally I'd advise you 'munge' it.
ScratchMonkey - 27 Oct 2007 13:25 GMT
> Shawk:  tell me about Thunderbird. I use Outlook Express. If I used
> Thunderbird, would I need a new email address? Would it change my
> newsgroup "connection?" provider through charter (nnpt.charter.net)?
> Thanks for the information. Scott in Austin MN

Excellent site comparing news reader software:

http://www.newsreaders.com/

Newsgroup for discussing reader software:

news.software.newsreaders
Dan C - 27 Oct 2007 15:11 GMT
> Newsgroup for discussing reader software:

> news.software.newsreaders

Actually, it's:     news.software.readers

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