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Game Forum / Action Games / Half Life / October 2007What are the main differences between TFC and TF?
If anybody has played both of the games, could you tell me what the real differences are between the Quake mod and the Half Life mod? I assume graphics are a huge difference, but was the gameplay the same, or did Valve change it? I've always been interested in the Team Fortress Series, but I've always had questions about the original Team Fortress Quake mod. > If anybody has played both of the games, could you tell me what the real > differences are between the Quake mod and the Half Life mod? I assume [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I've always been interested in the Team Fortress Series, but I've always had > questions about the original Team Fortress Quake mod. TFC was a deliberate conversion of the old QTF into the half-life engine - its been a long time since I've played QTF, but AFAIR, the gameplay in TFC is pretty close (Yes the graphics are hugely different.. QTF didn't use any custom models or textures, and just modified all the Quake game content). The only noticable gameplay differences really are in the form of minor tweaks (such as movement speed, damage, etc) and the lack of other gameplay types which Valve introduced in TFC (Control zone, gas chamber, football/push). QTF only has capture-the-flag. The difference with TF2 is far more noticable OTOH; Medic - Can no longer "infect" enemies with disease - Has the uber-charge (invulnerability) for 15 sec Engineer - Builds teleporters - Change in dispenser functionality Sniper - Power-shot only happens in zoom mode Demoman - "Sticky" grenades Spy - Able to "sap" enemy Sentries/Dispensers/etc There's probably other big differences that I can't think of right now :)  SignatureBen Cottrell AKA Bench >> If anybody has played both of the games, could you tell me what the >> real differences are between the Quake mod and the Half Life mod? I [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > There's probably other big differences that I can't think of right now :) No grenades except demoman is a big one - a plus point IMHO and the overall feel of the game just seems more fun and enjoyable that TFC. > No grenades except demoman is a big one - a plus point IMHO and the > overall feel of the game just seems more fun and enjoyable that TFC. Oh, I don't know how I missed that out. That's a definite improvement.. No more conc-jumping engineers building sentry guns on your balcony :) And the spawn timer is an interesting change. I'm not sure whether its for better or worse. I like the fact that it seems to cause people to spawn en-masse rather than one at a time. The end result seems to be a better 'teamplay' feel (Although I'm increasingly finding servers which have the spawn timer disabled) And of course, the crazy Pixar animation feel to the game makes it more enjoyable too IMHO :) SignatureBen Cottrell AKA Bench >> No grenades except demoman is a big one - a plus point IMHO and the >> overall feel of the game just seems more fun and enjoyable that TFC. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > better 'teamplay' feel (Although I'm increasingly finding servers which > have the spawn timer disabled) I've very much got into playing a medic and the spawn timer is a boon as you generally then don't have you run about trying to find someone to heal to get the uber charge going. Still haven't played an engineer yet so that may be my next one. > And of course, the crazy Pixar animation feel to the game makes it more > enjoyable too IMHO :) Hats off to the person who thought that one up! > Still haven't played an engineer yet so that may be my next one. Ah, I enjoy playing an engineer. Although you'll become extremely paranoid of spies after the 3rd or 4th time you hear the words "Spy's sappin' my sentry.." :) SignatureBen Cottrell AKA Bench >> Still haven't played an engineer yet so that may be my next one. > > Ah, I enjoy playing an engineer. Although you'll become extremely > paranoid of spies after the 3rd or 4th time you hear the words "Spy's > sappin' my sentry.." :) I find that the balance is there since when over run with spies, you need pyro's around to light them up. Too many soldiers you need heavies. If you have heavies you of course need Medics for Uber charge. Too many snipers then you need spies. Forces a balance of classes. SignatureJethro[AGHL] aka Phat_Jethro Reply Email: jethro86 (at) gmail (dot) com >> No grenades except demoman is a big one - a plus point IMHO and the >> overall feel of the game just seems more fun and enjoyable that TFC. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > better 'teamplay' feel (Although I'm increasingly finding servers which > have the spawn timer disabled) Tried a server with no spawn time and playing CP_Dustbowl was just stupid. Couldn't get close to capping the second stage as was over run by red since they respawned instantly. > And of course, the crazy Pixar animation feel to the game makes it more > enjoyable too IMHO :) SignatureJethro[AGHL] aka Phat_Jethro Reply Email: jethro86 (at) gmail (dot) com >Tried a server with no spawn time and playing CP_Dustbowl was just stupid. >Couldn't get close to capping the second stage as was over run by red >since they respawned instantly. How I miss RJ-ing onto the cap with a flag... >>Tried a server with no spawn time and playing CP_Dustbowl was just stupid. >>Couldn't get close to capping the second stage as was over run by red >>since they respawned instantly. > > How I miss RJ-ing onto the cap with a flag... RJ'ing still works, its just the grenades that have been removed :) SignatureBen Cottrell AKA Bench >> Tried a server with no spawn time and playing CP_Dustbowl was just stupid. >> Couldn't get close to capping the second stage as was over run by red >> since they respawned instantly. > > How I miss RJ-ing onto the cap with a flag... Demoman is actually a little better at RJ (or nade jump) I find. Have been able to nade jump in last stage of Dustbowl over the spam alley outside of spawn. Their demos and soldiers were spamming th alley and I nade jumped over the mess on to the 1st cap point. Been testing to get the proper angle of jump as too high and I hear bones breaking when I land. Still haven't been able to convince anyone to let me nade propel a scout out of the hole in the second stage. SignatureJethro[AGHL] aka Phat_Jethro Reply Email: jethro86 (at) gmail (dot) com >> If anybody has played both of the games, could you tell me what the >> real differences are between the Quake mod and the Half Life mod? I [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > There's probably other big differences that I can't think of right now :) Biggie... No grenades. Even though the soldier has a pair hanging on the front of his shirt. No regular nades, no concussion, none of the demo massive 'nades. No demo detpack left in spawn room. SignatureJethro[AGHL] aka Phat_Jethro Reply Email: jethro86 (at) gmail (dot) com |
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