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Game Forum / Action Games / Half Life / September 2007Questions on Portal, Episode 2, and Team Fortress 2...
Hello! I already own the original Half-Life 2 (finished) and Episode 2 (finished) from long ago. I also have Steam (duh, required) and a couple free third party mods (e.g., Insurgency and Counter-Strike [HL2]). From what I read, only the orange box is available with all the listed items I bought and the upcoming ones (Portal, Episode 2, and Team Fortress 2. Does that mean I to buy the stuff I already own? Or can I just buy the three items I don't have (not online) from its retail box? Thank you in advance. :)  Signature"Trivial hurts, tiny human accidents," said Firenze, as his hooves thudded over the mossy floor. "These are of no more significance than the scurryings of ants to the wide universe, and are unaffected by planetary movements." --Harry Potter book /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phillip (Ant) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Remove ANT from e-mail address: philpi@earthlink.netANT ( ) or ANTant@zimage.com Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer. >Hello! > >I already own the original Half-Life 2 (finished) and Episode 2 >(finished) from long ago. I also have Steam (duh, required) and a couple >free third party mods (e.g., Insurgency and Counter-Strike [HL2]). I think you mean Episode 1. Episode 2 is what's upcoming, and probably the major part of The Orange Box. > From what I read, only the orange box is available with all the listed >items I bought and the upcoming ones (Portal, Episode 2, and Team >Fortress 2. Does that mean I to buy the stuff I already own? Or can I >just buy the three items I don't have (not online) from its retail box? Yes, HL2 and HL2:Ep1 will be the 'doubles' in The Orange Box. As far as I know, you cannot yet buy _only_ HL2:Ep2 and/or TF2 and/or Portal. BTW, finally got TF2 working, and it looks very impressive. I've not had time to go online, but started the 'Hydro' map in 'Spectator' mode, cycling through the Developer's Commentary, and looking at all the classes. Wow, is all I can say. But as mentioned, I haven't played it yet, so I hope my 'wow' will remain then too ;) >Thank you in advance. :) You're welcome. Regards, Patrick. On 9/19/2007 1:30 AM PT, Patrick Vervoorn typed: >> I already own the original Half-Life 2 (finished) and Episode 2 >> (finished) from long ago. I also have Steam (duh, required) and a couple >> free third party mods (e.g., Insurgency and Counter-Strike [HL2]). > > I think you mean Episode 1. Episode 2 is what's upcoming, and probably the > major part of The Orange Box. DOH! I meant episode 1. Yeah. Heh. It's almost 2 AM here. :) >> From what I read, only the orange box is available with all the listed >> items I bought and the upcoming ones (Portal, Episode 2, and Team [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > As far as I know, you cannot yet buy _only_ HL2:Ep2 and/or TF2 and/or > Portal. Bah. That sucks! I don't want to repay games that I have already. DUMB! > BTW, finally got TF2 working, and it looks very impressive. I've not had > time to go online, but started the 'Hydro' map in 'Spectator' mode, > cycling through the Developer's Commentary, and looking at all the > classes. Wow, is all I can say. But as mentioned, I haven't played it yet, > so I hope my 'wow' will remain then too ;) TF2 does looks cool, but I don't want to shell out my money just for it and have to repay episode 1, original game, and Counter-Strike! Signature"... [Let us inquire] what glory there was in an omnipotent being torturing forever a puny little creature who could in no way defend himself? Would it be to the glory of a man to fry ants?" --Charlotte Perkins Gilman /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phillip (Ant) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Remove ANT from e-mail address: philpi@earthlink.netANT ( ) or ANTant@zimage.com Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer. >On 9/19/2007 1:30 AM PT, Patrick Vervoorn typed: > >> I think you mean Episode 1. Episode 2 is what's upcoming, and probably the >> major part of The Orange Box. > >DOH! I meant episode 1. Yeah. Heh. It's almost 2 AM here. :) :) >> Yes, HL2 and HL2:Ep1 will be the 'doubles' in The Orange Box. >> >> As far as I know, you cannot yet buy _only_ HL2:Ep2 and/or TF2 and/or >> Portal. > >Bah. That sucks! I don't want to repay games that I have already. DUMB! You can also look at it this way: you get them as freebies together with the NEW stuff. And, Valve has said you can give away the stuff you have double. So perhaps there's someone you know you can make happy with HL2 and/or HL2:Ep1? >> BTW, finally got TF2 working, and it looks very impressive. I've not had >> time to go online, but started the 'Hydro' map in 'Spectator' mode, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >TF2 does looks cool, but I don't want to shell out my money just for it >and have to repay episode 1, original game, and Counter-Strike! I agree with the other poster, he says the contents The Orange Box, excluding the 'double' stuff is easily worth the amount of money they ask. I do, however, disagree on the perceived value of Ep2: Valve has been very busy with this, and looking at all the playing videos released a _LOT_ of new content is in this. Looking forward to smacking some Striders with the new Strider-buster for instance, and I'm also looking forward to the underground stuff. ;) I need to get my new rig before Episode 2 is available, because if TF2 is any indication, I need to turn down a lot of detail on my current rig to get the framerates up (P4-2.4GHz-1GB/AGP7600GT-256MB). Regards, Patrick. "Patrick Vervoorn" <patrick.vervoorn@NOSPAM.perihelion.demon.nl> wrote in message news:3effe$46f0eb21 > I do, however, disagree on the perceived value of Ep2: Valve has been very > busy with this, and looking at all the playing videos released a _LOT_ of > new content is in this. Looking forward to smacking some Striders with the > new Strider-buster for instance, and I'm also looking forward to the > underground stuff. ;) Well, I was trying not to get too excited - from one perspective it's "just" more levels for a game we already paid for. But yeah, Valve have done a hell of a lot more than just knocking up new levels. Three games for $50 is peanuts though. >"Patrick Vervoorn" <patrick.vervoorn@NOSPAM.perihelion.demon.nl> wrote in >message news:3effe$46f0eb21 [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >more levels for a game we already paid for. But yeah, Valve have done a hell >of a lot more than just knocking up new levels. It in any case looks like a lot more than just knocking up new levels, or, at least, not a plain re-hash of the old stuff. >Three games for $50 is peanuts though. Exactly, and a price I gladly paid. Now to find some time to become a TF2-expert! :) Regards, Patrick. > In article <46f0f8d1$0$5581$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com>, > > Exactly, and a price I gladly paid. Now to find some time to become a > TF2-expert! :) Looks like I'll have to learn to be a sniper all over again - no power-sniping unless zoomed (and no crosshair either) and no grenades. Couldn't seem to make him run either. The class has certainly changed quite a bit. > Hello! > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Thank you in advance. :) Well, you certainly can't buy them individually at the moment, but who knows what'll happen in the coming months? I was thinking along the same lines as you but then I thought - $50 (inc. tax) is pretty damned cheap for TF2 (which is EXCELLENT - played it yesterday - easily worth £20UKP,) Portal (which certainly LOOKS excellent - and if it's anything like Narbacular Drop, will be! - and worth another £15UKP to £20UKP assuming it delivers) and Episode 2 (I'd happily pay a tenner for it) - three of the best games I'll play in the next five years for that price...? I'd be tempted to ignore the fact that they're bundling in the stuff you already own - or maybe consider that they're including that stuff for free for people who are new to the whole HL2 experience. Just look at the ridiculous prices they charge for a SINGLE game in the stores... My recommendation - cough up and get playing TF2 today! And no, I don't work for Valve! It's a damn shame - the poor guys are just trying to do the best and the flak they have to take for it! >> Hello! >> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > And no, I don't work for Valve! It's a damn shame - the poor guys are just > trying to do the best and the flak they have to take for it! So you would also be happy if they did the same with ep3, 4 and 5?? By that stage you will have 5 copies of HL2, 4 of EP1, 3 of EP2 etc, dont you think thats just a little silly? Companies hear stuff like "I'd happily pay" then they are just going to shovel more of this episode/small download content crap onto us... Its rubbish imo. Cheers Dre >>> Hello! >>> [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > Cheers Dre As long as the complete package represents good value for money then I would not have any problem in purchasing it (surely that's the point isn't it, so if you already have HL2 and HL2:EP1 you just attach a £0 to their value) and it's not as though there isn't an option to purchase then new content as individual packages although it will cost you $80 for all of them! If you don't think it's good value for money then fair enough don't buy it. So for example I didn't buy HL2:EP1 until it was down to £5. >>>> Hello! >>>> [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > If you don't think it's good value for money then fair enough don't buy > it. So for example I didn't buy HL2:EP1 until it was down to £5. Oh dont worry, if the orange box isn't the same price as ep1 was then I wont be buying it until its in the *cheap* bin, I'm in no rush to play it! Cheers Dre >>>>> Hello! >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > > Cheers Dre Fair enough - I'm already happily playing the TF2 beta and it's very impressive so far. Just the kind of MP game I like - very hectic, enjoyable even by the casual gamer, nice spread of classes and doesn't take itself that seriously. Possibly a master piece in the making. > So you would also be happy if they did the same with ep3, 4 and 5?? > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Cheers Dre As long as I get value for money then yes. I don't care what other stuff they bundle with it for free. It costs me nothing as I don't have to download it again. And... the nice bit is that I can give this free stuff to someone else and they get quite a lot for nothing. What do you mean "small download" anyway? I downloaded TF2 and it certainly wasn't small. In fact, I'm downloading the server content right now and it's taking ages. I can see where you're coming from because, at first, I thought like you did, but then I had the treatment - ahem - I thought about it for a while and decided to look at it that I'm getting excellent value for money and the daft guys at Valve are throwing in some other stuff for free that I don't want and that I can give away. Cheers yerself! ;o) >> So you would also be happy if they did the same with ep3, 4 and 5?? >> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Cheers yerself! ;o) When I say small downloads I mean stuff like those downloads for Oblivion. The thing I have a problem with is I dont think that the orange box is going to be the same price as ep1, I can pretty much guarantee that in Australia, they will charge us more and this is what irks me. If the orange box is going to be the same price as Ep1 I'll shut up. Cheers Dre I bought HL2 the day it came out, and I am not going to get the "orange box". Portal is just a distraction, TF2 would be interesting if I spent any time playing the current Steam MP library that I already own. EP2 is 6 hours of gameplay according to PC Gamer mag, and I figure that time is on my side. Soon enough, it will be stand alone for $10. I am NOT buying software I already own. >I bought HL2 the day it came out, and I am not going to get the > "orange box". Portal is just a distraction, TF2 would be interesting [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Soon enough, it will be stand alone for $10. I am NOT buying software > I already own. I'm interested in Portal (I really liked that part of Prey), but not TF2 much. Ep2 is what I'm after so for me to get it, I get lumped with all this other crap I really dont want. I hope you are right about ep2 being standalone soon for cheap! Cheers Dre >> I bought HL2 the day it came out, and I am not going to get the >> "orange box". Portal is just a distraction, TF2 would be interesting [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > I hope you are right about ep2 being standalone soon for cheap! My personal opinion is that it'll certainly be available standalone but its unlikely to be available 'soon' for cheap. One thing Valve are not good at is lowering prices like retail do. You may be waiting some time. Personally I find the pricing in the Orange box to be pretty good. I no longer play MP but if there was a game that could get me back into it then TF2 could be it - I'll definitely be trying it out. Portal looks fascinating but of course I'm really waiting for Ep2. They say its 20% longer than Ep1 and we already know its much more varied in settings and gameplay than Ep1 so that's worth a few quid extra in my book. Yes, I already have HL2 and Ep1 but there is no limit on time as to when you can gift them and with Christmas coming up... well, I know a couple of people I could make very happy come Christmas morning for a very low price. >I bought HL2 the day it came out, and I am not going to get the > "orange box". Portal is just a distraction, TF2 would be interesting [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Soon enough, it will be stand alone for $10. I am NOT buying software > I already own. No, and if you bought the Orange box you wouldn't be buying software you already own. The price is for Episode 2, TF2 and Portal. The other bits are freebies to entice new players in. > Hello! > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Thank you in advance. :) See this page at steampowered.com http://support.steampowered.com/cgi-bin/steampowered.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php ?p_faqid=750 On 9/19/2007 2:49 PM PT, KCB typed: >> I already own the original Half-Life 2 (finished) and Episode 2 >> (finished) from long ago. I also have Steam (duh, required) and a [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > See this page at steampowered.com > http://support.steampowered.com/cgi-bin/steampowered.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php ?p_faqid=750 Very interesting. Unfortunately, everyone (PC gamers that is) I know has HL2 already. LOL! :( Signature"When many work together for a goal, great things may be accomplished. It is said a lion cub was killed by a single colony of ants." --Saskya Pandita /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phillip (Ant) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Remove ANT from e-mail address: philpi@earthlink.netANT ( ) or ANTant@zimage.com Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer. |
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