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Game Forum / Action Games / Half Life / September 2007Is Steam Down?
I get a blank store page when I try to preorder Orange Box with a little "undefined" message. Thanks for any Info Rene. >I get a blank store page when I try to preorder Orange Box with a little >"undefined" message. > > Thanks for any Info > > Rene. I should qualify that, My games and other stuff seems to be OK as I can play online and all, just the Store section not working, or is it overloaded with preorders? Thanks, Rene >>I get a blank store page when I try to preorder Orange Box with a little >>"undefined" message. > >I should qualify that, My games and other stuff seems to be OK as I can play >online and all, just the Store section not working, or is it overloaded with >preorders? Perhaps not with pre-orders (that'd be nice, for Valve in any case! :)), but with people accessing the new 'Friends' addition to Steam? This is just speculation from my part, but I noticed the Friends tab was (also) really really slow... Regards, Patrick. >>>I get a blank store page when I try to preorder Orange Box with a little >>>"undefined" message. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Regards, Patrick. Speaking of the friends bit of steam, is there any way to just turn it off? I dont go into steam much, but when I do, I get blasted with hundreds of "blah is your friend" or "blah wants to add you" etc, I dont know anyone on steam so it just gets in the way and its annoying... Cheers Dre >>>> I get a blank store page when I try to preorder Orange Box with a little >>>> "undefined" message. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Cheers Dre Wow you must be popular.. I don't get a single message through Steam friends.. even from friends or family. *sob* J  SignatureJethro[AGHL] aka Phat_Pinger Reply Email: jethro86 (at) gmail (dot) com >>>>> I get a blank store page when I try to preorder Orange Box with a >>>>> little [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > J Lucky you :) I dont get any messages, I just get the popups saying that people want to "add" me and its bloody annoying... Cheers Dre > I get a blank store page when I try to preorder Orange Box with a > little "undefined" message. > > Thanks for any Info > > Rene. Is there anything to pre-order besides the Orange Box. I already have all that stuff; I just want HL2 Ep2, Portal and TF2. Signature"Out here on the perimeter there are no stars" Steve --Inglo-- >> I get a blank store page when I try to preorder Orange Box with a little >> "undefined" message. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Is there anything to pre-order besides the Orange Box. I already have all > that stuff; I just want HL2 Ep2, Portal and TF2. Thats all I need also HL2 EP2, TF2 and Portal, they also throw in some kind of game called Peggle, havn't tried it yet. Regards, Rene >>> I get a blank store page when I try to preorder Orange Box with a little >>> "undefined" message. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Regards, Rene Me too, I'm hoping another box comes out like EP1 with EP2, TF2 and Portal in it on *disc*. I'm still not keen to purchase downloads, I prefer a disc... Cheers Dre Hi, > Is there anything to pre-order besides the Orange Box. I already have > all that stuff; I just want HL2 Ep2, Portal and TF2. They do at least let you 'gift' the games you've already got to someone else. I think it still works out cheaper to buy the Orange Box than to buy all the new games seperately. Andy > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I think it still works out cheaper to buy the Orange Box than to buy all the > new games seperately. Last time I checked, the deal for steam users was that buying Ep2 gave you TF2 and Portals for free. AFAIK, this offer is still going to be there (probably cost 30 quid or something). That's got to be cheaper than the orange box. SignatureBen Cottrell AKA Bench >> Hi, >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > there (probably cost 30 quid or something). That's got to be cheaper > than the orange box. How much did we pay for episode 1 when it came out? I thought that was like $20. Just to get my bearings, how much do you pay in £ or € for a game that in the U.S. costs $49.95 (e.g. Bioshock lists for that price now)? Does it go straight up along the exchange rate? I seem to remember someone saying it doesn't always work that way. I'd have no problem paying between $25-30 for Ep2+Portal+TF2. Signature"Out here on the perimeter there are no stars" Steve --Inglo-- > How much did we pay for episode 1 when it came out? I thought that was > like $20. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I'd have no problem paying between $25-30 for Ep2+Portal+TF2. Ah, I'm not sure if the prices vary between countries on Steam. I didn't buy Ep1, so I have no idea how much that costs. The typical PC game in the UK is £25-£30 (And has been for about 20 years).. at the current exchange rate, I guess thats about $50-60US. SignatureBen Cottrell AKA Bench >> How much did we pay for episode 1 when it came out? I thought that was >> like $20. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > game in the UK is £25-£30 (And has been for about 20 years).. at the > current exchange rate, I guess thats about $50-60US. The original plan was for Valve to sell Ep2, TF2 and Portal called the 'Black box' and HL2, EP1, EP2, TF2 Portal as the 'Orange box' Valve has since dropped the black box and now if you want TF2\EP2\Portal you have to "rebuy" HL2 and EP1. They are giving HL2 and Ep1 out in separate keys that you can give as gifts to others on Steam. This ought to send PC Lamer or whats his name into a real tailspin. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Orange_Box SignatureJethro[AGHL] aka Phat_Pinger Reply Email: jethro86 (at) gmail (dot) com >>> How much did we pay for episode 1 when it came out? I thought that >>> was like $20. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > This ought to send PC Lamer or whats his name into a real tailspin. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Orange_Box I'm not going to buy it then. Signature"Out here on the perimeter there are no stars" Steve --Inglo-- >>>> How much did we pay for episode 1 when it came out? I thought that >>>> was like $20. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >> > I'm not going to buy it then. Well I'm a sucker for TF2 after all these years so I guess I can say I paid $45 for TF2, got Portal and EP2 for free. I will still have HL2 and Ep1 keys to give away to family then too. J SignatureJethro[AGHL] aka Phat_Pinger Reply Email: jethro86 (at) gmail (dot) com >Well I'm a sucker for TF2 after all these years so I guess I can say I >paid $45 for TF2, got Portal and EP2 for free. I will still have HL2 and >Ep1 keys to give away to family then too. And I'm a sucker for HL2: Ep2, and I'm hoping I'm going to like TF2 too. So that's why I bought The Orange Box the moment I could pre-order it. Besides, I've enjoyed the entire Half Life series a lot, so I have no problems paying Valve to contintue this. I will make my brother happy with my 'spare' Episode 1, and I will have to find a 'worthy' recipient of my 'spare' HL2 key. But it's nice to be able to give this to someone, in a safe way, so that they can enjoy it. I'm looking forward to TF2, hopefully I can 'unlock' it this evening, and get some playing time in. ;) Regards, Patrick. >>> How much did we pay for episode 1 when it came out? I thought that >>> was like $20. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > This ought to send PC Lamer or whats his name into a real tailspin. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Orange_Box I've been thinking about saying goodbye to PC gaming anyway, maybe I'll buy the Orange Box for XBox360. Signature"Out here on the perimeter there are no stars" Steve --Inglo-- Why? (about the xbox vs. pc - not about being on the perimeter although answer that one too, please.) Scott in Austin MN > I've been thinking about saying goodbye to PC gaming anyway, maybe I'll > buy the Orange Box for XBox360. > Why? (about the xbox vs. pc - not about being on the perimeter > although answer that one too, please.) Scott in Austin MN I went out and bought and XBox 360 on Friday night. My gaming computer is aging, it has a GeForce 6800 in it with an AthlonXP processor, so I needed to upgrade soon to keep up and to get a system the way I want it would probably run at least $800. The 360 cost $349.99. I just bought a 42" HDTV and needed an upconverting to 1080p DVD player and eventually an HDTV DVD player. The 360 handles both of those needs (you have to purchase a separate HD DVD add-on, which I'll do eventually). The 360 also integrates with the rest of my home network so I can play music and videos on my TV or over my sound system. You can also directly download movies and TV shows with the XBox 360. That's a nice feature set for a device even if you don't include the gaming factor. I might have been willing to spend $350 on something like that even if I couldn't play games on it. I bought Bioshock to go with the 360 and it plays and looks great. So besides all the above it's an excellent gaming platform. It would be sad to give up gaming on the PC, I've been doing so for a long time, but it feels like a logical step. I have a nice laptop that plays games all right but I never have a real mouse hooked up to it so I rarely game with it. My old desktop that I gamed on is almost never turned on. I want my laptop for work and school but don't want to stop gaming all together. The XBox 360 was the answer. Signature"Out here on the perimeter there are no stars" Steve --Inglo-- > I went out and bought and XBox 360 ... > I just bought a 42" HDTV... > I have a nice laptop... Could you remind me of your full street address please? :p Seriously though, yeah, a friend of mine has a similar setup (but with a wii) and it makes a lot of sense, its a much more sociable, relaxed way to play games: no sitting at a desk with your 'rig' any more. All you need to do is have some sort of media centre hooked up to it to feed you music and crap TV shows and you're sorted :) Civilian_Target >> I went out and bought and XBox 360 ... I just bought a 42" HDTV... > > I have a nice laptop... [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Civilian_Target Gaming on a large high def screen with a wireless remote from your couch is a much more enjoyable than hunkering over at my work desk. There is a lot of freedom that you give up with what you're able to configure, no editing of autoexec files on the 360. Those wild and woolly days were mostly over for me on the PC anyway. Even my aging system ran things at medium default settings fine with no extra tweaking necessary. I'll be curious to see how playing HL2 translates to the XBox controller. I already have windows media center on my laptop which automatically hooked up with the 360. Microsoft hasn't decided to support Divx or Xvid yet so that's a problem. I want to be able to grab the hi-def torrents of Heroes when it starts next week. Signature"Out here on the perimeter there are no stars" Steve --Inglo-- >>> How much did we pay for episode 1 when it came out? I thought that was >>> like $20. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > This ought to send PC Lamer or whats his name into a real tailspin. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Orange_Box Well add me to the list of people that think thats crap. I'd like the black box, but to get ep2 I now need the orange box, terrific... ...and I'm not getting anything via Steam btw so looks like I'll end up with 23 copies of HL2 by the end of the episodes. Cheers Dre > Well add me to the list of people that think thats crap. I'd like the black > box, but to get ep2 I now need the orange box, terrific... ...and I'm not > getting anything via Steam btw so looks like I'll end up with 23 copies of > HL2 by the end of the episodes. I agree, that's pretty crap - though it looks to me that the price tag for the orange box is reasonable, so i'll probably still get the orange box and write off the other licence for HL2. SignatureBen Cottrell AKA Bench >> Well add me to the list of people that think thats crap. I'd like the >> black box, but to get ep2 I now need the orange box, terrific... ...and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > the orange box is reasonable, so i'll probably still get the orange box > and write off the other licence for HL2. Meh, I'll probably do the same, but if the orange box in Australia isn't the same price as ep1 was *then* I'll be pissed off cause then Valve are making me pay for HL2 again. I've got a bad feeling it wont be, which means I'll be getting it when it gets cheaper and the same as EP1, I'm not paying for HL2 again and I'm not in any hurry :) Cheers Dre > I agree, that's pretty crap - though it looks to me that the price tag > for the orange box is reasonable, so i'll probably still get the orange > box and write off the other licence for HL2. Yep, did exactly that yesterday. It's 45 dollars, I think, which works out at under 30 pounds - for Ep2, Portal and TF2 that's a bloody bargain, even without the extra licences for HL2 and Ep1. Plus, apparently, I get on the beta for TF2, but no idea how that's going to work. On a side note, am I the only one watching each of the 'Meet the...' movies and thinking each time "Yes! I am SO going to play *that* character..."? I never really played TF - did you tend to specialise in one role, or swap freely between roles depending on what was needed? ___ Neil aka HighVis -- >> I agree, that's pretty crap - though it looks to me that the price tag >> for the orange box is reasonable, so i'll probably still get the orange [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >out at under 30 pounds - for Ep2, Portal and TF2 that's a bloody >bargain, even without the extra licences for HL2 and Ep1. Exactly. I've had a lot of fun and exceptional value-for-money with their previous products, I pre-ordered The Orange Box the moment I could. Whether that makes me a 'Valve-fan-boy' or not: I don't really care. They are a 'good' company in my eyes, and good companies will be supported by me, and my money. >Plus, apparently, I get on the beta for TF2, but no idea how that's >going to work. No idea really. I started Steam this morning, before going to work, and I noticed TF2 was moved to 'Released' status. However, when trying to launch it, I get a small Steam window saying "Launching Team Fortres 2", then a bit of disk-activity, and nothing. Restarted Steam, tried again: same thing. Verified Game cache files for TF2, retry: same thing. Restarted the computer, retry: same thing. Anybody got TF2 to start up? I didn't have time to look for a log file of some sort, but I suppose something will have been barfed down on the disk if it bombed out. Will try to find that this evening. >On a side note, am I the only one watching each of the 'Meet the...' >movies and thinking each time "Yes! I am SO going to play *that* >character..."? I never really played TF - did you tend to specialise in >one role, or swap freely between roles depending on what was needed? It's been a while since I last played TF, but I think I mainly played two classes, depending on the state my team was in: if they were having trouble defending their base, I'd play a 'Soldier' class: throwing out Bazookas is a good way to turn the tide. If the team was on the offense, I'd sometimes also play the Sniper; some support from 'above' is usually pretty welcome. I'm looking forward to the classes in TF2; so much to try out, so little time... ;) Regards, Patrick. <snip> > On a side note, am I the only one watching each of the 'Meet the...' > movies and thinking each time "Yes! I am SO going to play *that* [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > -- I always played different roles more so depending on what map or what type of play (CTF, Push) or how bad I was sucking at another role. eg. Sniper wars in Crossover and 2 Fort. eg. Spy in 2fort for some sniper stabbing. I ended my dialup TFC time by playing on a Dustbowl only server. That's where you spawn and have to carry flag to their cap over 3 different sections. I really got into it and played mostly as spy or medic for the concussion jumps. Or went whatever class seemed to be needed at that time. I'm now afraid that TF2 won't be like the glory days. J SignatureJethro[AGHL] aka Phat_Pinger Reply Email: jethro86 (at) gmail (dot) com > On a side note, am I the only one watching each of the 'Meet the...' > movies and thinking each time "Yes! I am SO going to play *that* > character..."? I never really played TF - did you tend to specialise in > one role, or swap freely between roles depending on what was needed? I'm sure I don't need to tell *you* what class I used to play alot in TFC ;-) Although, actually, I used to find the game far more enjoyable when I got out of my bad habits and started varying alot more.. I remember enjoying playing an engineer alot on Rock2 (I think that's the "gas gas gas" map?) .. and I had some great times as an evil b*stard medic too. I guess my favourite class varied between maps really. The only classes which I never really managed to get into were scout and demoman (as demoman I could never get my grenades to actually /hit/ anything!) SignatureBen Cottrell AKA Bench >> On a side note, am I the only one watching each of the 'Meet the...' >> movies and thinking each time "Yes! I am SO going to play *that* [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I'm sure I don't need to tell *you* what class I used to play alot in > TFC ;-) Actually I can't remember what you were prone to using.. guessing Spy? > Although, actually, I used to find the game far more enjoyable when I > got out of my bad habits and started varying alot more.. I remember [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > demoman (as demoman I could never get my grenades to actually /hit/ > anything!) Scout is still not for me. He seems more powerful now too as I have been shotgunned and head bopped with his billy club by more scouts now. I was soldier and little bugger wouldn't hold still and shotgunned me before I got him. Ahh.. new Demoman has 'sticky' grenades which can cling to any surface for proper hiding. Then wait for some slick-a.s scout to come running in for a cap.. right-click BOOOOM! Spy class is really nice now. He has knife, gun and sentry gun\dispenser electro-zapper. Spy can change disguise to any other enemy class AND has a cloaking device to turn invisible. Difference this time is that a teammate spy doesn't look like and enemy to you... he looks like a spy but has a 'paper mask' to show what he's hidden as trails fumes when he's cloaked invisible. J SignatureJethro[AGHL] aka Phat_Pinger Reply Email: jethro86 (at) gmail (dot) com [snippage] >Spy class is really nice now. He has knife, gun and sentry gun\dispenser >electro-zapper. Spy can change disguise to any other enemy class AND has >a cloaking device to turn invisible. Difference this time is that a >teammate spy doesn't look like and enemy to you... he looks like a spy >but has a 'paper mask' to show what he's hidden as trails fumes when >he's cloaked invisible. Start the Hydro map in spectator mode, then cycle to some of the later commentaries for some insight into this. Very nicely done. ;) Regards, Patrick. > Scout is still not for me. He seems more powerful now too as I have been > shotgunned and head bopped with his billy club by more scouts now. I was > soldier and little bugger wouldn't hold still and shotgunned me before I > got him. I think the scout class is not at all well balance at the moment - far too lethal and far too fast. Sniper has been rendered pretty much useless for anything other than camping as well - a big shame, as I absolutely love ranging about as a sniper. > Ahh.. new Demoman has 'sticky' grenades which can cling to any surface for > proper hiding. Then wait for some slick-a.s scout to come running in for a [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > 'paper mask' to show what he's hidden as trails fumes when he's cloaked > invisible. Yeah, noticed that for the first time today - great effect! The fact there's no nades will take some getting used to as well. TF2 is quite different to TFC eh? >> Scout is still not for me. He seems more powerful now too as I have been >> shotgunned and head bopped with his billy club by more scouts now. I was [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > anything other than camping as well - a big shame, as I absolutely love > ranging about as a sniper. I was wondering that whether the first Steam update will tone down the Scout. The speed isn't an issue to me but damn is his shotgun lethal to everyone. Played Scout on Hydro last night and capped capture points and was taking on a HWGay and Soldier and almost got them both. >> Ahh.. new Demoman has 'sticky' grenades which can cling to any surface for >> proper hiding. Then wait for some slick-a.s scout to come running in for a [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > The fact there's no nades will take some getting used to as well. TF2 is > quite different to TFC eh? Yes i do miss them nades but not the nade campers in Dustbowl. Remember the nade spam when the gates opened. Took 5 minutes of constant deaths to make it through. Maybe now that there is the kill tracking system they don't want that nade spam to throw off the stats. Speaking of stats... the great wrecker of any games as so many people become stat-whores instead of team players. Too much focus on the stats after ever round or every death. I find myself drawn into that also and I can't help it. SignatureJethro[AGHL] aka Phat_Pinger Reply Email: jethro86 (at) gmail (dot) com >>> Scout is still not for me. He seems more powerful now too as I have been >>> shotgunned and head bopped with his billy club by more scouts now. I was [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Played Scout on Hydro last night and capped capture points and was taking > on a HWGay and Soldier and almost got them both. Hehehe... I call the fatties that too... ;o) Something I've noticed with sniper and the unzoomed rifle - you could just stick something on your monitor to give you a sight - although they'll probably change that now that I've pointed it out - VALVE ARE STALKING ME AND READ ALL MY POSTS!!!! ;o) yeah right >> Yeah, noticed that for the first time today - great effect! >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > the nade spam when the gates opened. Took 5 minutes of constant deaths to > make it through. Yup yup yup. Actually, I'm trying to get my own server working (but getting some daft error at the moment) so that I'll be able to kick and generally abuse all and sundry and give the concept of admins a bad name - ahem. ;o) > Maybe now that there is the kill tracking system they don't want that nade > spam to throw off the stats. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > after ever round or every death. > I find myself drawn into that also and I can't help it. Yeah, true. Although I have to admit I'm just there for the killing - I don't usually bother too much with the capping. Sorry... <snip> > Yeah, true. Although I have to admit I'm just there for the killing - I > don't usually bother too much with the capping. Sorry... Not following the map objectives??? Uh-oh... that's contrary to AGHL rules. Shame shame :-) SignatureJethro[AGHL] aka Phat_Pinger Reply Email: jethro86 (at) gmail (dot) com >> Yeah, true. Although I have to admit I'm just there for the killing - I >> don't usually bother too much with the capping. Sorry... > Not following the map objectives??? Uh-oh... that's contrary to AGHL > rules. > Shame shame > :-) Ouch! I'll get me coat etc. >>> On a side note, am I the only one watching each of the 'Meet the...' >>> movies and thinking each time "Yes! I am SO going to play *that* [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Actually I can't remember what you were prone to using.. guessing Spy? Heh, no, I used to play Sniper all the time :) It was part of a long-running trend for a couple of years.. (Crossbow in HLDM, AWP in CS.. I think Neil was just one of many people to notice that ;) ) SignatureBen Cottrell AKA Bench >>>> On a side note, am I the only one watching each of the 'Meet the...' >>>> movies and thinking each time "Yes! I am SO going to play *that* [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > long-running trend for a couple of years.. (Crossbow in HLDM, AWP in > CS.. I think Neil was just one of many people to notice that ;) ) Sniper seems to be 'easier' now... As long as you are scoped you are charging your shot. But quick shots take a few hits to take out even another sniper so you always hang around scoped... perfect targets for b@st@rd spies. :-) SignatureJethro[AGHL] aka Phat_Pinger Reply Email: jethro86 (at) gmail (dot) com > Sniper seems to be 'easier' now... As long as you are scoped you are > charging your shot. But quick shots take a few hits to take out even > another sniper so you always hang around scoped... perfect targets for > b@st@rd spies. :-) Yeah, exactly. Sniper has been somewhat emasculated... I was a dab-hand and popping people right beside me with the old sniper rifle - not any longer... perhaps someone will "mod" the thing back to the way it used to be... <sniff> >>Sniper seems to be 'easier' now... As long as you are scoped you are >>charging your shot. But quick shots take a few hits to take out even [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > perhaps someone will "mod" the thing back to the way it used to be... > <sniff> I'm not sure if I agree with that - such changes would be in danger of turning it into a TFC port on the source engine just with funky graphics and sounds. IMHO, TF2 was never supposed to be a simple engine conversion but a brand new game with new gameplay dynamics, drastically different to previous versions of TF. I think alot of people are expecting TF2 to be like TFC:Source, but anyone who really wants that should try the Fortress Forever mod omstead, which is apparently quite faithful to the original TFC :) SignatureBen Cottrell AKA Bench > I think alot of people are expecting TF2 to be like TFC:Source, but > anyone who really wants that should try the Fortress Forever mod > instead, which is apparently quite faithful to the original TFC :) typo fixed >> I think alot of people are expecting TF2 to be like TFC:Source, but >> anyone who really wants that should try the Fortress Forever mod instead, >> which is apparently quite faithful to the original TFC :) > > typo fixed Great - now if you could just fix the sniper in FF... >> Sniper seems to be 'easier' now... As long as you are scoped you are >> charging your shot. But quick shots take a few hits to take out even [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > perhaps someone will "mod" the thing back to the way it used to be... > <sniff> Well then you need the Fortress Forever mod. Someone wanted the old TFC in Source. http://www.fortress-forever.com/ SignatureJethro[AGHL] aka Phat_Pinger Reply Email: jethro86 (at) gmail (dot) com >>> Sniper seems to be 'easier' now... As long as you are scoped you are >>> charging your shot. But quick shots take a few hits to take out even [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Source. > http://www.fortress-forever.com/ Already tried it and it's great but - sniper is broke: http://www.fortress-forever.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11188&highlight=sniper+miss I'm experiencing the same as those guys - shots that I KNOW were dead on target don't connect. >> How much did we pay for episode 1 when it came out? I thought that was >> like $20. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > game in the UK is £25-£30 (And has been for about 20 years).. at the > current exchange rate, I guess thats about $50-60US. HL2:EP1 seems to have stayed at £15 in the UK ever since it was released which may have been ok two years ago but seems very steep now. I didn't end up buying it until it was on Steam at $10 so roughly £5. I don't believe that are regional prices on Steam accept those caused by sales tax. |
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