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Bioshock: Brilliance and Taken Opportunities

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Neil Jones - 04 Sep 2007 10:56 GMT
OK, I've played both Stalker and Bioshock about a quarter of the way
through, and whereas it's very difficult to find a good time to load
Stalker back up, it's the opposite with Bioshock. It's so damned
inviting, it's hard not to race through it.

Paul and I have long agreed that Mafia had pretty much the best
atmosphere of any PC game, but this may take the prize - every tiny
aspect of the design and sound for the game is crafted to make the
experience as immersive as possible.

I can't go into detail on further gameplay elements, but so far the
upgrading skills idea seems as complete and satisfying as Deus Ex was -
to the point where I can see huge replay potential by focusing on
different skills (I played Deus Ex as an invisible, super fast ghost,
and then as a massive, unstoppable killing machine, for instance).

It looks really, really beautiful on my pc, and while I'm sure it'll
need the effects dialling down for slower rigs, it's a lot more
friendly than Stalker and it's weather effects.

It's a pity Strider left the group - I'd love to find out if he's
playing it the amoral 'kill everything that moves' way he played HL, or
whether the moral and emotional challenges you get given make him hold
back. It's a given for me - I couldn't even kill the scientists in HL,
let alone Barney - I'll come out of Bioshock with ethics intact, even
at the expense of a harder route to take.

So - PC games, eh? There ARE other ones than World of Warcraft after
all, I find. Wonder if there are any others around worth botheri.....
oh, the Orange pack is due next month... :D

___
Neil
aka HighVis

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Beladi Nasralla - 04 Sep 2007 15:50 GMT
> So - PC games, eh? There ARE other ones than World of Warcraft after
> all, I find. Wonder if there are any others around worth botheri.....
> oh, the Orange pack is due next month... :D

Gee, I think the proper forum for discussing Bioshock is
comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action. I myself bought this game, and just
started to play. I still have half of FEAR to finish, and I still have
the FEAR Expansion Pack. So... I was really looking forward to
HL2:Ep2. I like HL2 best. It is a pity that Bioshock came first... my
hands are tied at the moment, and for the next few months (3 mo ? 4
mo ?). So I will have to postpone buying HL2:Ep2.
Legion@l.com - 06 Sep 2007 07:51 GMT
>> So - PC games, eh? There ARE other ones than World of Warcraft after
>> all, I find. Wonder if there are any others around worth botheri.....
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>hands are tied at the moment, and for the next few months (3 mo ? 4
>mo ?). So I will have to postpone buying HL2:Ep2.

Must have played F.E.A.R. and EP a dozen times.
Found two easter eggs and one secret area in FEAR EP!

Legion
Neil Jones - 07 Sep 2007 11:21 GMT
> Gee, I think the proper forum for discussing Bioshock is
> comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action.

Gee, you think so?  Is that why in July you visited aghl and started a
thread called 'I am not looking forward to upcoming BioShock'?

http://tinyurl.com/ytmmpb

Didn't you enjoy the subsequent discussion? Imagine for 10 seconds
trying to have that same discussion on csipga, and  you'll see why we
post in here.

___
Neil
aka HighVis

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Civilian_Target - 07 Sep 2007 11:27 GMT
> Didn't you enjoy the subsequent discussion? Imagine for 10 seconds
> trying to have that same discussion on csipga, and  you'll see why we
> post in here.

Who's that trap- trap- trapping over my bridge??

Civilian_Target
Beladi Nasralla - 07 Sep 2007 15:11 GMT
> In article <1188917427.424476.279...@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Gee, you think so?  Is that why in July you visited aghl and started a
> thread called 'I am not looking forward to upcoming BioShock'?

Thanks for giving me the free trips to the past  :-) . Indeed, I said
that... and I have nothing to say now to acquit myself. I guess I
bought the game because I saw it on the pre-sale at a discount, and
thought: "What the heck, I can afford, I just could buy it now at a
discount and see what was all that hype about".

>  http://tinyurl.com/ytmmpb
>
> Didn't you enjoy the subsequent discussion? Imagine for 10 seconds
> trying to have that same discussion on csipga, and  you'll see why we
> post in here.

Uhm.. again, I have nothing to tell to acquit myself. Guilty as
charged  ;-(

> ___
> Neil
> aka HighVis
>
> --
Civilian_Target - 05 Sep 2007 00:20 GMT
> OK, I've played both Stalker and Bioshock about a quarter of the way
> through, and whereas it's very difficult to find a good time to load
> Stalker back up, it's the opposite with Bioshock. It's so damned
> inviting, it's hard not to race through it.

I haven't yet tried Stalker, just because I need to actually make it
through university and installing it may make that a risky business :)

> Paul and I have long agreed that Mafia had pretty much the best
> atmosphere of any PC game, but this may take the prize - every tiny
> aspect of the design and sound for the game is crafted to make the
> experience as immersive as possible.

I tried the demo and sadly the atmosphere, I thought, wasn't that great.
That was probably due to the graphics glitch that I was having that
caused some of the textures to be rendered as plain green or orange
blocks. Sadly my card is not on the supported list, so actually playing
Bioshock properly is going to be expensive! (I can't believe my X800XT
is obselete already!)

> I can't go into detail on further gameplay elements, but so far the
> upgrading skills idea seems as complete and satisfying as Deus Ex was -
> to the point where I can see huge replay potential by focusing on
> different skills (I played Deus Ex as an invisible, super fast ghost,
> and then as a massive, unstoppable killing machine, for instance).

I presume you did it as a killing machine on Easy then! I found Deus Ex
to be way too hard to play on the "blast everything in sight" setting,
so I was mostly a hacker, but handy with a wrench to the back of the
heard if needs must :)

> It looks really, really beautiful on my pc, and while I'm sure it'll
> need the effects dialling down for slower rigs, it's a lot more
> friendly than Stalker and it's weather effects.

Bastid :(

Civilian_Target
Neil Jones - 07 Sep 2007 11:26 GMT
> > and then as a massive, unstoppable killing machine, for instance).
>
> I presume you did it as a killing machine on Easy then! I found Deus Ex
> to be way too hard to play on the "blast everything in sight" setting,
> so I was mostly a hacker, but handy with a wrench to the back of the
> heard if needs must :)

I've never played any game on 'easy' mode, Civ! I use 'unstoppable' in
the modern sense of 'stoppable'. From what I can remember, it just made
me harder to kill and able to use the heavy weaponry.

Plus, just because you're too young to have developed 1337 fps skills,
you shouldn't think we all have the same problems with games you do ;)

___
Neil
aka HighVis

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Civilian_Target - 07 Sep 2007 20:29 GMT
>  I've never played any game on 'easy' mode, Civ! I use 'unstoppable' in
> the modern sense of 'stoppable'. From what I can remember, it just made
> me harder to kill and able to use the heavy weaponry.

lol! Not even drinking games? :)
Yeah, I played it on hard IIRC (I needed to make it last) and I remember
being seen was tantamount to being dead so the enhancements in the
unstoppability dept. must have been pretty good :)

> Plus, just because you're too young to have developed 1337 fps skills,
> you shouldn't think we all have the same problems with games you do ;)

1337 skills? You counted them, did you? :p

Civilian_Target
Neil Jones - 11 Sep 2007 19:15 GMT
> > Plus, just because you're too young to have developed 1337 fps skills,
> > you shouldn't think we all have the same problems with games you do ;)
>
> 1337 skills? You counted them, did you? :p

Awww, bless. :)

It's an example of the sort of hip language young dudes are using these
days - get with it or be square. I think.

___
Neil
aka HighVis

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StreetMedic - 11 Sep 2007 20:16 GMT
>>> Plus, just because you're too young to have developed 1337 fps skills,
>>> you shouldn't think we all have the same problems with games you do ;)
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> --

    Word.
G Hardy - 11 Sep 2007 20:55 GMT
"StreetMedic" <zhyvaxxeSPAMMERJAMMER@Comcast.net> wrote in message

> Word.

PowerPoint
Ben Cottrell - 11 Sep 2007 21:18 GMT
> PowerPoint

PhoneSocket.
Squat - 12 Sep 2007 14:46 GMT
>> PowerPoint
>
> PhoneSocket.

Cable Jack!
Cannon Fodder - 12 Sep 2007 23:32 GMT
>>> PowerPoint
>>
>> PhoneSocket.
>
>Cable Jack!

Quill pen & parchment....
Civilian_Target - 13 Sep 2007 09:20 GMT
>>>> PowerPoint
>>> PhoneSocket.
>> Cable Jack!
>>
> Quill pen & parchment....

Can someone pass me a fresh Ogham Stone for my next post please?

Civilian_Target
JAB - 07 Sep 2007 19:18 GMT
> I haven't yet tried Stalker, just because I need to actually make it
> through university and installing it may make that a risky business :)

Bloody students ... :-)
Legion@l.com - 06 Sep 2007 07:47 GMT
>OK, I've played both Stalker and Bioshock about a quarter of the way
>through, and whereas it's very difficult to find a good time to load
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>Neil
>aka HighVis

Just started playing Bioshock in Vista,1600x1200, everything maxed
out....It Is Beautiful!!! Never seen such great graphics. Downloaded
the special beta drivers from nVidia for Bioshock..no problems with
it.
Two of the best games I'v played that really stick in my memory are
DeusEx ans System Shock 2..loved 'em!
Stalker was ok, played through about 5 times..fun with some mods and
cheats.
I didn't like killing Barney or the scientists either. If they died
after an attack, i'd sometimes reload a save to try to keep them with
me as long as the game allowed<g>.

Legion
 
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