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Stri - 07 Sep 2006 01:45 GMT
The many jokes aside I feel this man should be mentioned for
his many conservationist roles and for his wonderful
ambassadorship of nature and the endorsement of his native
Australia.

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Cannon Fodder - 07 Sep 2006 02:31 GMT
Gotta agree, he was a magnificent individual.. I really enjoyed and respected
him... He was a lucky dude to find a wife like his... I'll miss him....

>The many jokes aside I feel this man should be mentioned for
>his many conservationist roles and for his wonderful
>ambassadorship of nature and the endorsement of his native
>Australia.

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G-Dawg - 07 Sep 2006 02:49 GMT
> Gotta agree, he was a magnificent individual.. I really enjoyed and
> respected
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>    of a Cuban Pig" AGHL points for your effort....
>    Gracefully accepted :)

Still can't believe it... That guy had more energy than anyone I know. You
could tell he truely loved his work and his family. He will be missed.

Rest In Peace Crocodile Hunter, once last "CRANKIE!" for you.
Stri - 07 Sep 2006 10:14 GMT
> Rest In Peace Crocodile Hunter, once last "CRANKIE!" for you.

I thought it was "Crikey!"

As in

"Crikey! look at the size of those teeth. Shes a beauty!"

:)

He used to get on my nerves but now I know he's dead I try
to think of someone like him and I can't.

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McGrandpa - 09 Sep 2006 23:44 GMT
>> Rest In Peace Crocodile Hunter, once last "CRANKIE!" for you.
>
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> He used to get on my nerves but now I know he's dead I try to think of
> someone like him and I can't.

You'd be hard pressed to find a more generous individual than he was.  I
haven't seen any of the tv shows at all.  But he came up rather often in
many news blurbs.   He was very serious about conservation and education.
he contributed hugely to both.
McG.
Peter [AGHL] - 07 Sep 2006 10:26 GMT
> The many jokes aside I feel this man should be mentioned for
> his many conservationist roles and for his wonderful
> ambassadorship of nature and the endorsement of his native
> Australia.

He will be missed :(
My condolencies to his family

But - as I have discussed with my wifes in many occasions - he was very
controversiel in his approach to animals

Obviously he has saved many animals from being shot due to being in the
wrong place (dangerous to human)

But I have always disliked his way of treating the animals when was
visiting their legal playground, making nature movies
Lack of respect is probably not the right term to use - but sometimes
animals was treated as his favourite toy rather than living beings

On the other hand he has taught mankind that crocs are just animals not
beasts

rgds/Peter
minnesotti - 07 Sep 2006 12:19 GMT
> > The many jokes aside I feel this man should be mentioned for
> > his many conservationist roles and for his wonderful
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>
> rgds/Peter

Australian blokes one the whole are careless and laid back...

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PiG$$ - 07 Sep 2006 13:54 GMT
>> > The many jokes aside I feel this man should be mentioned for
>> > his many conservationist roles and for his wonderful
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>
> Australian blokes one the whole are careless and laid back...

s/careless/carefree/

Thankyou.

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Lief - 08 Sep 2006 02:08 GMT
> The many jokes aside I feel this man should be mentioned for
> his many conservationist roles and for his wonderful
> ambassadorship of nature and the endorsement of his native
> Australia.

His huge personality aside, the thing which endeared me most to him was his
true love of nature and animals, his passion for them was endless, to the
last.

The world is a sadder place without him, no doubt.

/salute
Dan - 08 Sep 2006 03:07 GMT
> > The many jokes aside I feel this man should be mentioned for
> > his many conservationist roles and for his wonderful
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>
> The world is a sadder place without him, no doubt.

Does anyone know the details of how/why the animal
killed him?  It was a sting ray wasn't it?  I thought they
were normally harmless to humans.  Maybe he was
harassing or threatening it in some way?
Carl - 08 Sep 2006 08:45 GMT
What's it matter how/why the fish attacked. Steve Irwin died in the pursuit
of something he loved doing, IMHO, if you're gonna go, might as well be
doing something you enjoy.
Dan - 08 Sep 2006 08:59 GMT
> What's it matter how/why the fish attacked. Steve Irwin died in the pursuit
> of something he loved doing, IMHO, if you're gonna go, might as well be
> doing something you enjoy.

True, but that has nothing to do with the original point.  Every
time I saw Irwin on TV he was doing something that was not
only needlessly dangerous but completely pointless as well
(e.g. forcing open the jaws of juvenile crocodiles, etc).  Was
the audience supposed to learn something from that, or was it
just an ego exercise for Irwin?

The prior post had it exactly correct IMHO: the odds finally
caught up with him, and it was natural selection hard at work.
Thad - 08 Sep 2006 13:43 GMT
> True, but that has nothing to do with the original point.  Every
> time I saw Irwin on TV he was doing something that was not
> only needlessly dangerous but completely pointless as well
> (e.g. forcing open the jaws of juvenile crocodiles, etc).  Was
> the audience supposed to learn something from that, or was it
> just an ego exercise for Irwin?

I only watched it a couple of times and my conclusion was #2.

> The prior post had it exactly correct IMHO: the odds finally
> caught up with him, and it was natural selection hard at work.

Harsh, but true.
I really hate that he had his daughter with him when it happened.

---
Thad
G Hardy - 08 Sep 2006 21:55 GMT
> I really hate that he had his daughter with him when it happened.

I didn't know that! Where was she? In the water or the boat?
Lief - 09 Sep 2006 01:05 GMT
> > What's it matter how/why the fish attacked. Steve Irwin died in the pursuit
> > of something he loved doing, IMHO, if you're gonna go, might as well be
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> The prior post had it exactly correct IMHO: the odds finally
> caught up with him, and it was natural selection hard at work.

I think you got him wrong to be honest.  Most people fear the animals he
worked with, he had no fear of them himself.

I believe he was trying to show them in a good light, rather than the bad,
which seems to follow any carnivore which isn't human.
G Hardy - 09 Sep 2006 21:59 GMT
> I believe he was trying to show them in a good light, rather than the bad,
> which seems to follow any carnivore which isn't human.

Yeah, but if he'd shown them in a bad light, the picture would be too dark
on TV.

I'll get me coat...
McGrandpa - 09 Sep 2006 23:50 GMT
>> What's it matter how/why the fish attacked. Steve Irwin died in the
>> pursuit
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> The prior post had it exactly correct IMHO: the odds finally
> caught up with him, and it was natural selection hard at work.

He was taping a show, he was in the water.  It's all on tape.  the
authorities have that, it is not released to the public.  yet. The police
have said there was no 'harrassment' going on, no foul play at all.  A ray
took off when Steve was swimming over, it lashed at him with its tail, the
barb struck him in the chest,  Steve pulled the barb out himself, and died.
McG.
Civilian_Target - 10 Sep 2006 19:26 GMT
> What's it matter how/why the fish attacked. Steve Irwin died in the pursuit
> of something he loved doing, IMHO, if you're gonna go, might as well be
> doing something you enjoy.

Yeah - it'd have been kinda anti-climactic if he'd died of something
normal like cancer...

Civilian_Target
Peter [AGHL] - 08 Sep 2006 08:58 GMT
> Does anyone know the details of how/why the animal
> killed him?  It was a sting ray wasn't it?

Yep
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,20356303-5005961,00.html

> I thought they were normally harmless to humans.

They are not agressive at all
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stingray

In '96 the number of known incidents was estimated to 17 since started
counting

> Maybe he was harassing or threatening it in some way?

When the stingray gets scared it has a powerfull defense weapon on its
tail
The barb on the stingway in question is estimated to be about 30 cm
long and it hit Steve Irwin clean in the chest and punctured his heart
when the stingray flipped its tail to defend it self

- Peter
Peter [AGHL] - 08 Sep 2006 14:59 GMT
> > Does anyone know the details of how/why the animal
> > killed him?  It was a sting ray wasn't it?
>
> Yep

Whops, looks like he'd got the final call

"He and the underwater cameraman went out to do some pieces on the reef
and coral and stuff good for the kids' show and, unfortunately, he came
out over the top of a stingray that was buried in the sand and the barb
went up and hit him in the chest."
http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/TV/09/05/irwin.death/index.html?section=cnn_showbiz

- Peter
McGrandpa - 09 Sep 2006 23:57 GMT
>> Does anyone know the details of how/why the animal
>> killed him?  It was a sting ray wasn't it?
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>
> - Peter

Basically it's the same news on several news sources.   It's one of those
things that can happen, and in this instance, it simply did happen.  Sad
yes, very tragic for the family.  I'm thinking that in some ways, animal
conservancy will suffer his loss as well.  But he did build a strong
network, and it should keep and self sustain.
McG.
 
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