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NickD - 26 Jul 2006 16:28 GMT
....what FPS's can you recommend? Episode 1 is on my shopping list,
FEAR went down a treat, Doom3 is just too full on. Ghost Recon?
Something else like that?

Cheers all
Nick
Andrew - 26 Jul 2006 16:58 GMT
>....what FPS's can you recommend? Episode 1 is on my shopping list,
>FEAR went down a treat, Doom3 is just too full on. Ghost Recon?
>Something else like that?

Prey - try the demo if you can, people seem to either love it or hate
it.
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Andy Hawkins - 26 Jul 2006 16:59 GMT
Hi,

> ....what FPS's can you recommend? Episode 1 is on my shopping list,
> FEAR went down a treat, Doom3 is just too full on. Ghost Recon?
> Something else like that?

I've just finished Call of Duty and its expansion pack. Enjoyed that, as I
did Medal of Honour. I also liked the Cate Archer ones (the name of which
escapes me right now).

I'm about to try Call of Duty 2 when I get chance to do a bit more gaming...

Andy
LymanAlpha - 26 Jul 2006 17:26 GMT
On 7/26/2006 8:59 AM Andy Hawkins brightened our day with:
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>  
No One Lives Forever, 1 & 2.  Lots of fun.

I'm trying to play Prey and Call of Cthulhu right now.  Different types
of games; the latest Tomb Raider game was fun as well as Stubbs the Zombie.
Or you can just go nuts, sign your life away and start playing Oblivion.

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Andy Hawkins - 26 Jul 2006 19:25 GMT
Hi,

> No One Lives Forever, 1 & 2.  Lots of fun.

That's them!

> I'm trying to play Prey and Call of Cthulhu right now.  Different types
> of games; the latest Tomb Raider game was fun as well as Stubbs the Zombie.
> Or you can just go nuts, sign your life away and start playing Oblivion.

I'm working my way through 'Prey's demo at the moment too. Not overly
impressed thus far, but it's early days I guess.

Andy
EDM - 26 Jul 2006 20:15 GMT
> On 7/26/2006 8:59 AM Andy Hawkins brightened our day with:
> > Hi,
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> >
> No One Lives Forever, 1 & 2.  Lots of fun.

Two years later and I'm still trying to get that theme song
outta my head.
NickD - 27 Jul 2006 12:54 GMT
> No One Lives Forever, 1 & 2.  Lots of fun.
>
> I'm trying to play Prey and Call of Cthulhu right now.  Different types
> of games; the latest Tomb Raider game was fun as well as Stubbs the Zombie.
> Or you can just go nuts, sign your life away and start playing Oblivion.

I've read a couple of reviews of Call of Cthulhu. Sounds daaaaaaaark.
But that whole series of books was pretty frickin disturbing... Had
forgotten about Stubbs.

What's NOLF?

Nick
Arthur Green - 27 Jul 2006 13:28 GMT
> I've read a couple of reviews of Call of Cthulhu. Sounds daaaaaaaark.
> But that whole series of books was pretty frickin disturbing... Had
> forgotten about Stubbs.
>
> What's NOLF?

As outlined earlier, No-One Lives Forever. FPS based on spoof 1960s spy
stories. Good fun, doesn't take itself at all seriously - for example, one
level in NOLF2 is an on-rails chase, wherein you are pursuing a French mime
assassin on a tricycle being driven by a Scotsman. There's also a
reasonable amount of stealth in it, which allows you eavesdrop on
coversations between bad guys. These conversations have little to do with
the plot, but are frequently very amusing (e.g. discussions on the best
sort of fake lava to install in your Evil Villain Secret Headquarters).

> Nick

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LymanAlpha - 27 Jul 2006 14:25 GMT
On 7/27/2006 5:28 AM Arthur Green brightened our day with:

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>> I've read a couple of reviews of Call of Cthulhu. Sounds daaaaaaaark.
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Talking about fun games, one shouldn't leave out Serious Sam, Serious
Sam Second Encounter and Serious Sam II.   Another FPS game from a year
or so ago that I absolutely loved was Star Wars: Republic Commando.  
It's kind of hard to play that game now after watching Revenge of the Sith.

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Paul Catley - 29 Jul 2006 00:21 GMT
>  Talking about fun games, one shouldn't leave out Serious Sam, Serious Sam
> Second Encounter and Serious Sam II.   Another FPS game from a year or so ago
> that I absolutely loved was Star Wars: Republic Commando.  It's kind of hard
> to play that game now after watching Revenge of the Sith.

Is that because you are troubled by the moral corruption of your Republic
commanders and now realise that in following orders you were an unwitting tool
of the evil Empire, or is it because the film was shite? :)

I tried the Star Wars: Republic Commando demo and was somewhat disappointed, to
be honest.  The squad management angle was over-simplified, with fixed choices
in any situation that did not permit free-form tactical decisions to be made.
If squad management was the aspect that appealed to you, then may I recommend
you have a look at Brothers in Arms, Hidden & Dangerous 2 or SWAT 4; all games
where squad management is a major component.  They handle it in very different
ways, but all more interestingly than in SW:RC, IMO.  I like squad games :)

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Inglo - 29 Jul 2006 16:00 GMT
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>>  Talking about fun games, one shouldn't leave out Serious Sam, Serious Sam
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I liked "Revenge of the Sith", it's the idea that your character
probably executed several Jedi that makes it difficult for me.  They
aren't a happy go lucky group of fun-loving commandos, they're agents of
the coming empire.
I don't really care for squad type games and I like Republic Commando
for not making me have to try too hard.  The game was short and fun and
I liked the style of the game, it actually looked a little different, as
if there was a unique creative vision behind it.

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Civilian_Target - 28 Jul 2006 00:22 GMT
> No One Lives Forever, 1 & 2.  Lots of fun.

I concur!
Peter [AGHL] - 29 Jul 2006 09:19 GMT
>> No One Lives Forever, 1 & 2.  Lots of fun.
>
> I concur!

NOLF = ROFL

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Randy - 26 Jul 2006 21:15 GMT
> Hi,
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> Andy

You won't be disappointed. CoD2 is better than the first....and I've been
playing the MP since Christmas. Very popular.
user00 - 26 Jul 2006 18:22 GMT
> ....what FPS's can you recommend? Episode 1 is on my shopping list,
> FEAR went down a treat, Doom3 is just too full on. Ghost Recon?
> Something else like that?
>
> Cheers all
> Nick

I asked a similar question of this group last year and someone recommended
Far Cry. I'm still playing it and getting a ton of enjoyment out of it. I
don't actually think it is possible to play the game without dying a million
times but I'm still loving it ...

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user00
Randy - 26 Jul 2006 21:31 GMT
>> ....what FPS's can you recommend?
>
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> --
> user00

I second the motion on Far Cry. Fantastic game. Fun weapons. You WILL die
quite often. It forces you to develop a lot of different tactics to make it
through the tough spots. Your first impression of some battles is that
they're impossible. Keep trying (don't cheat) and you'll surprise yourself.
Very satisfying. Play it on Normal the first time through.
BD - 27 Jul 2006 22:53 GMT
> Very satisfying. Play it on Normal the first time through.

I went through Far Cry for about the fifth time recently, and decided
to bump up the difficulty.

I'll try to say this without spoiling anything, but the Caldera was a
KILLER until I figured out the 'trick'. Which basically came down to
making sure you selected two particular weapons from the nearby
storeroom before finally going outside.

My current problem is the big hallway right before you go to meet
Krieger. The one with the square pillars... looks roughly
'Matrix-bank-ish'. Nasty Nasty Nasty,

I dunno _how_ I'm supposed to deal with this on Hard difficulty. My
kingdom for Bullet-Time. ;)

BD
Shawk - 27 Jul 2006 23:22 GMT
>> Very satisfying. Play it on Normal the first time through.
>
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> BD

That sounds like the part I spent a long time ducking behind a console...
BD - 27 Jul 2006 23:28 GMT
> That sounds like the part I spent a long time ducking behind a console...

Mmmm. Don't think so. No consoles here, just a hallway with pillars
along either side, some hologram projections about halfway along and
your goal is to get to the other end - after which, I think, is the
Kreiger encounter.

Some b@$t@rd with a rocket launcher always nails me. ;)
Shawk - 27 Jul 2006 23:56 GMT
>> That sounds like the part I spent a long time ducking behind a console...
>
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>
> Some b@$t@rd with a rocket launcher always nails me. ;)

... I hate it when I don't recognise something.  I see me playing
through this in the near future otherwise it'll drive me daft wondering
about it.  Sorry can't help.
BD - 28 Jul 2006 00:08 GMT
> Sorry can't help.

No worries... I'll either give up, or just replay it at Normal
difficulty next time. ;)
Beck - 27 Jul 2006 04:50 GMT
> I asked a similar question of this group last year and someone recommended
> Far Cry. I'm still playing it and getting a ton of enjoyment out of it. I
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> user00

One of the things I like most about Far Cry is the scenery- it's really an
exquisitely beautiful game. I could almost imagine I was on vacation on a
tropical island (ok, except for the mercs and monsters coming after me...)
As good as HL is, it just doesn't have the eye candy that FC could give me.
Any recommendations on another game as pretty to immerse in as Far Cry?
Beck
Peter [AGHL] - 27 Jul 2006 07:06 GMT
> One of the things I like most about Far Cry is the scenery- it's really an
> exquisitely beautiful game. I could almost imagine I was on vacation on a
> tropical island (ok, except for the mercs and monsters coming after me...)
> As good as HL is, it just doesn't have the eye candy that FC could give me.

The plantation in FC is not really natural layed out
If you have been living in a larger city with abandoned areas you'd
"appreciate" the effort Valve has done with HL2

> Any recommendations on another game as pretty to immerse in as Far Cry?
> Beck

Oblivion?

- Peter
EDM - 27 Jul 2006 07:30 GMT
> > One of the things I like most about Far Cry is the scenery- it's really an
> > exquisitely beautiful game. I could almost imagine I was on vacation on a
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> If you have been living in a larger city with abandoned areas you'd
> "appreciate" the effort Valve has done with HL2

I think Beck's point is valid.  After reaching Black Mesa in
HL2 I started wondering if Valve knows how to design any
landscapes other than rock cliffs and urban rubble.  The game
has a few good points (e.g. I thought the Hwy 17 bridge was
well done, and the gravity gun was a blast) but in general it's
unimaginative compared to FC.  That's true of both NPCs
and landscapes IMO.

Earlier someone mentioned No One Lives Forever, which
has one of the best diversity of environments I've seen in
a PC game.

> > Any recommendations on another game as pretty to immerse in as Far Cry?
> > Beck
>
> Oblivion?
>
> - Peter
Peter [AGHL] - 27 Jul 2006 07:51 GMT
> I think Beck's point is valid.  After reaching Black Mesa in
> HL2 I started wondering if Valve knows how to design any
> landscapes other than rock cliffs and urban rubble.

The game engine has limitations or maybe Valve is not in for the
Jungle?
Compare FC with eg BF vietnam, Vietcong or COD ...

The landscape in FC is nice and beautifull but that is also the problem
:)
You have plants not suited for the spot where they are located in the
game
>From a distant it's impressive - but close up it's a mess

> has a few good points (e.g. I thought the Hwy 17 bridge was
> well done, and the gravity gun was a blast) but in general it's
> unimaginative compared to FC.  That's true of both NPCs
> and landscapes IMO.

The NPC AI in HL2 is plain awfull imho

> Earlier someone mentioned No One Lives Forever, which
> has one of the best diversity of environments I've seen in
> a PC game.

Check Oblivion :)

- Peter
NickD - 27 Jul 2006 12:57 GMT
> I asked a similar question of this group last year and someone recommended
> Far Cry. I'm still playing it and getting a ton of enjoyment out of it. I
> don't actually think it is possible to play the game without dying a million
> times but I'm still loving it ...

Played it through, loved it. It did give me some very strange dreams
though (skin eating monkeys and the like). Was considering loading it
up and playing it for a third time.

Nick
Paul Catley - 26 Jul 2006 20:07 GMT
> ....what FPS's can you recommend? Episode 1 is on my shopping list,
> FEAR went down a treat, Doom3 is just too full on. Ghost Recon?
> Something else like that?

Not really a fan of FPSs these days, so there isn't much I can comment on, but I
do love SWAT 4.  The gameplay is unambitious in its scope: you do much the same
thing in every mission, there are no scripted sequences or big set pieces, and
while the AI is unpredictable, it offers few surprises.  Yet the game is always
tense and enjoyable and every mission is very replayable (which is just as well,
since many of them are so damn hard, and if you fail, you must start again).
The system of issuing tactical orders for your 5-man team is clever and
streamlined, the unpredictable positioning and behaviour of the AI means
entering every room is nerve-wracking, and the fiendish map design means you
rarely have enough men to cover every approach.  I loved SWAT 3, and I love this
even more :)  Success in a mission, when it eventually comes, is very
satisfying.  I've tried Ghost Recon and R6/Rogue Spear, but IMO the SWAT games
are tops for tactical shootery :)  (I tend to let my team do most of the
shooting, but you can lead from the front if you like)

Somebody mentioned Oblivion.  Great game, but I should point out that it isn't
really an FPS; it's an RPG disguised as an FPS :)

I also claim to like Brothers in Arms, Hidden & Dangerous 2, and Thief: Deadly
Shadows, but to be honest I haven't played them in ages.  I suppose they are a
bit old these days.  None of the games I've mentioned could be considered
traditional FPS games

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!bungle - 27 Jul 2006 03:52 GMT
> ....what FPS's can you recommend? Episode 1 is on my shopping list,
> FEAR went down a treat, Doom3 is just too full on. Ghost Recon?
> Something else like that?
>
> Cheers all
> Nick

Sin- Emergence was OK, as is the Time-Shift demo.

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Andy Hawkins - 27 Jul 2006 11:29 GMT
Hi,

> Sin- Emergence was OK, as is the Time-Shift demo.

I'd agree, but probably add 'just' OK. Nothing special to be honest. Dunno
if I'll pay for the next episode.

Andy
NickD - 27 Jul 2006 12:59 GMT
> Hi,
>
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>
> Andy

So possibly not Sin Episodes? Will check out CoD2 and a couple of the
others. Can probably pick 'em up cheap at the moment. Just getting a
bit bored of C&C Generals and GTA:VC - need some FPS action!

Thanks everyone
Nick
Ray - 30 Jul 2006 00:31 GMT
> ....what FPS's can you recommend? Episode 1 is on my shopping list,
> FEAR went down a treat, Doom3 is just too full on. Ghost Recon?
> Something else like that?
>
> Cheers all
> Nick

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