> I'll never understand how people miss this.

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>> I'll never understand how people miss this.
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> - Peter
Being my first attempt at HL2, I admit to "cheating" with weapons: I was
hoping for the same training run that HL1 provided but as it wasn't
there I decided to equip myself for a training run. I deliberately did
not use the boat cheat and heard the message but just missed the item.
After the electrified container I was glad to get away from the shacks.
In fact it seems that I could have gone on more or less indefinitely
with the gravity gun and a few boxes, but it was just rather tedious !
Subsequently having read the replies to my post I conjured up the
missing air-boat but it did not help except for speed and jumps: the
machine gun supplied by the Vortignaut ("to use press mouse button 1")
did nothing when mouse button one was pressed ! It seems the Game can
cheat as well as the player. Indeed on reaching the station where the mg
is given thre characters just stood there motionless ! Saving and
reloading that point seemed to animate them !
Finally, when reaching nearly the end of the level, (exploding the
barrels to open the container, driving round under the dock wall and
jumping into a further radioactive tunnel-I emerged into... a dock
closed at both ends with high concrete gates and no way out it seemed !
Have saved this point but it seems doubtful if one can proceed since I
see that the walkthrough indicated a different scene at this point.
No comments about "cheating" please, I play to amuse myself and to waste
time enjoyably, not to strain the old brain or to prove any superiority.
It's only a game after all.
Shawk - 15 Apr 2006 23:49 GMT
> No comments about "cheating" please, I play to amuse myself and to waste
> time enjoyably, not to strain the old brain or to prove any superiority.
> It's only a game after all.
No comments from me, I just found the cheat to give me gold in Oblivion,
resisted temptation for nearly 10minutes and then crumbled.
Have you got a save game from around the time of the electrified container
so you can pick up the proper airboat? Be a shame not to see the rest...
Ben Cottrell - 16 Apr 2006 01:41 GMT
> No comments about "cheating" please, I play to amuse myself and to waste
> time enjoyably, not to strain the old brain or to prove any superiority.
> It's only a game after all.
There's no problem with cheating in SP :) although it is possible to
"break" the game's scripted scenes by using cheats, so, sometimes, if
you're stuck and you've used a cheat, you have to accept that you have
to redo the area/level/whatever again :)
(eg, Nihilanth in HL breaks when you set sv_cheats 1 )

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G Hardy - 16 Apr 2006 17:14 GMT
> > No comments about "cheating" please, I play to amuse myself and to waste
> > time enjoyably, not to strain the old brain or to prove any superiority.
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> to redo the area/level/whatever again :)
> (eg, Nihilanth in HL breaks when you set sv_cheats 1 )
Nihilanth breaks anyway. Of the four times I got to see the cute little
munchkin, twice I managed to get him up at the roof in his death throes
without the game actually finishing.
Peter [AGHL] - 16 Apr 2006 08:47 GMT
> No comments about "cheating" please
I do use cheats frequently :)
The problem is that you're not supposed to have the gravity gun at this
point of the game
And Valve didn't imagine that anyone would miss the airboat :)
When missing the airboat half of the game won't work properly
You will see similar bugs around the game if you do not take the "correct"
approach to the puzzles
- Peter
Ben Cottrell - 16 Apr 2006 11:15 GMT
>>No comments about "cheating" please
>
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> You will see similar bugs around the game if you do not take the "correct"
> approach to the puzzles
Yeah, there's an "alternative" way to open Gate 5 if you have the
airboat... you can use the airboat as a stepping stone to bypass the
whole area - it's not actually a cheat, it's just something that valve's
designers clearly didn't think of when creating the level ;) .. which
makes it a bit strange if you do the level in reverse, you get all sorts
of graphical bugs & weird behaviour from NPCs.

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LymanAlpha - 16 Apr 2006 14:44 GMT
On 4/16/2006 3:15 AM Ben Cottrell brightened our day with:
>>> No comments about "cheating" please
>>
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> .. which makes it a bit strange if you do the level in reverse, you
> get all sorts of graphical bugs & weird behaviour from NPCs.
Since pre-loading SiN Episodes I've played through SiN 1 twice, the
second time through in the Freeport dam level I found a way to jump onto
a ledge and fall down into some water. This lets you turn off some
pumps and completely avoid an entire section of the game. There are
scripted voices and events so Ritual definitely planned for this
alternative route to happen. I thought that was pretty cool, it's an
interesting choice though, to put an alternative route through the game
that allows you to miss out on content.
I've already got my money's worth from buying SiN Episodes: Emergence.
I can't wait for the May release.

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Mark Morrison - 16 Apr 2006 17:52 GMT
>On 4/16/2006 3:15 AM Ben Cottrell brightened our day with:
>>>
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>I've already got my money's worth from buying SiN Episodes: Emergence.
>I can't wait for the May release.
Yeah, Sin had the ability to do things in one level that affects later
levels - I wish more games had it.

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