Quoth The Raven; pcgamer <pcgamer23708@yahoo.com> in
<1137914386.785696.149070@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>

yay, more food for gabe!!! good for them

Where did you see this info?

If Valve are taking 50% of the profits then surely the "Direct2Drive" method
must be similar, otherwise Ritual would surely have chosen that instead.

How do you define "profits" anyway?  I mean, have Ritual calculated an
estimated sales figure, divided their gross production cost over that then
told Valve they can have 50% of what's left?

If the 50% fiure is true, this is a great opportunity for someone to come up
with a better online distribution channel and do it cheaper.

True, but Valve are a company like any other.  They aren't here for our
benefit - they're here for theirs.

Oh yeah?

Try THE END OF THE WHOLE WORLD for size.

Technology News
+++++++++++++++

New Machines Signify End of the World.
Thousands to die in apocalyptic "Buffy Style" clash between good and
evil, claims area man.

By Max Beeberdon, Science Reporter.

VLV Security division may have problems introducing the new STEAM home
defense system to VLV housing stock, according to reports received by
this newspaper.  And these problems come in the unlikely shape of area
man Peter Oyde, who claims that STEAM is in fact a front for VLV
employees to drink the blood of their customers, shortly before laying
waste to the world as we know it.

Mr. Oyde, speaking to me from the demon tracking nerve center located in
his parent's basement, explained how his suspicions were first aroused.  
"I was, like, looking at the instruction manual for STEAM, when I
suddenly realised, like, wow!  There's a bunch of words and stuff in
there with letters in that correspond to my blood group.  These guys
even have my middle name (Aaron) on file.  How scary is that?"

Oyde points out that the letters in the manual corresponding to his
blood group appear in a "deliberately random fashion" with none of the
letters appearing more frequently than one would expect.  To Oyde, this
is proof of VLVs plotting; "man, look at the trouble they went to to
disguise this - these guys are professionals".  

"The fact that so much of this stuff relates to my blood group *must*
mean that VLV plan to send a vampire army to wreak destruction upon the
earth, and steal our souls", continued Oyde, "Kind of like the Buffy
finale."  Oyde isn't clear on why VLV want to end the world, but thinks
it may have something to do with "them being evil lawyers, like on
Angel.  Or maybe they're like the mayor in Buffy season 4."

Oyde has confirmation for his theories, from a surprising source - VLV
itself.
"I phoned them to check this out, I mean, obviously, I don't want to go
off half cocked here", Oyde told me,  "I asked them straight out, 'Is
STEAM part of a plan to unleash an army of blood drinking demons upon
the world?'  And the guy from VLV admitted it - 'Yeah, right, buddy' he
said - and then he put the phone down.  He obviously knew he'd said too
much."

Oyde has numerous other theories related to the introduction of new
technologies and the occult, but laughed off my suggestion that
completion of proposed "Duke4" nuclear power scheme could be
significant.  "Come on man," said Oyde, "there's some weird sh.t going
on, but no one believes they're ever going to finish Duke4."

(http://snipurl.com/liqs)

<snip>

Good post!

--
Best Regards, mattchu <original source: where??>
np:

"pcgamer" <pcgamer23708@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1137914386.785696.149070
@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:

After having viewed the 13 minute gameplay footage video over at gamespot
lat week, it looks like a *big* ripoff of HL2.  Perhaps Valve *does*
deserve a whole 50%.

Its not like a company is going to take the worst deal possible is it? Get a
f.cking clue.

Um, is this a post by Steamkiller in disguise?

On 1/21/2006 11:19 PM pcgamer brightened our day with:

You site no supporting evidence and if accepted on face value you offer
no mention of the fact that SiN Episodes uses licensed Valve game
technology.  "Profits" is an unclear term, have you explored how this
Steam deal actually compares to typical publishing contracts?
Have you considered how fantastic an advertising venue Steam is for a
game like this.  Gamers every day will be offered the opportunity to buy
SiN via Steam, I don't think you can get better directed advertising.  I
think developers would be clamoring for that kind of exposure.  Maybe
not the big boys but smaller games can't go wrong with Steam.
I can't wait to buy SiN Episodes via Steam.

Bandwidth is expensive...

Oh yeah?

Try THE END OF THE WHOLE WORLD for size.

Technology News
+++++++++++++++

New Machines Signify End of the World.
Thousands to die in apocalyptic "Buffy Style" clash between good and
evil, claims area man.

By Max Beeberdon, Science Reporter.

VLV Security division may have problems introducing the new STEAM home
defense system to VLV housing stock, according to reports received by
this newspaper.  And these problems come in the unlikely shape of area
man Peter Oyde, who claims that STEAM is in fact a front for VLV
employees to drink the blood of their customers, shortly before laying
waste to the world as we know it.

Mr. Oyde, speaking to me from the demon tracking nerve center located in
his parent's basement, explained how his suspicions were first aroused.  
"I was, like, looking at the instruction manual for STEAM, when I
suddenly realised, like, wow!  There's a bunch of words and stuff in
there with letters in that correspond to my blood group.  These guys
even have my middle name (Aaron) on file.  How scary is that?"

Oyde points out that the letters in the manual corresponding to his
blood group appear in a "deliberately random fashion" with none of the
letters appearing more frequently than one would expect.  To Oyde, this
is proof of VLVs plotting; "man, look at the trouble they went to to
disguise this - these guys are professionals".  

"The fact that so much of this stuff relates to my blood group *must*
mean that VLV plan to send a vampire army to wreak destruction upon the
earth, and steal our souls", continued Oyde, "Kind of like the Buffy
finale."  Oyde isn't clear on why VLV want to end the world, but thinks
it may have something to do with "them being evil lawyers, like on
Angel.  Or maybe they're like the mayor in Buffy season 4."

Oyde has confirmation for his theories, from a surprising source - VLV
itself.
"I phoned them to check this out, I mean, obviously, I don't want to go
off half cocked here", Oyde told me,  "I asked them straight out, 'Is
STEAM part of a plan to unleash an army of blood drinking demons upon
the world?'  And the guy from VLV admitted it - 'Yeah, right, buddy' he
said - and then he put the phone down.  He obviously knew he'd said too
much."

Oyde has numerous other theories related to the introduction of new
technologies and the occult, but laughed off my suggestion that
completion of proposed "Duke4" nuclear power scheme could be
significant.  "Come on man," said Oyde, "there's some weird sh.t going
on, but no one believes they're ever going to finish Duke4."

(http://snipurl.com/liqs)

A developer I worked with approached Valve a year ago about distribution via
Steam, and they do indeed ask for a 50% cut. But that still leaves the
developer with a way better deal than they would get from any conventional
publisher.

"pcgamer" <pcgamer23708@yahoo.com> looked up from reading the entrails
of the porn spammer to utter  "The Augury is good, the signs say:

<snip>

The question you aren't asking is "How much does the publisher usually
get?"

I seem to recall a big dispute between Valve and Sierra, over Sierra's
original publishing deal which in addition to taking most of the profits
also required Valve to sign over the rights to Halflife.

50% of the _profits_; not the gross, the profits, doesn't sound so bad
compared to that now does it?

Back to your endless "Steam is causing the sky to fall" whining.

Xocyll

Why ?

Just don't buy. Simple. Vote with your pocketbook.
Anyway Sin episodes will flop. You will get one or two then
they will quietly disappear. Maybe if it had a tuly first-class story
line, then interest would be maintained... but that won't
happen...........

John Lewis

And there was me thinking they're a charity. They must have held the Sin
guys families at gunpoint for days to force them to sign.