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Stri - 16 Dec 2005 21:58 GMT
You know music...

But you dont, you just think you do. Listen to Mozart's requiem, then
you will know.

It sometimes takes sacrifice to realize that you're listening to genius.

Here endeth the drunkth post.

I pray that some of you listen.

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Squat - 16 Dec 2005 22:36 GMT
Stri,
Try playing any one of Bach's inventions on the piano...
There was another musical genius.
Squat

> You know music...
>
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>
> I pray that some of you listen.
McGrandpa - 16 Dec 2005 23:33 GMT
> Stri,
> Try playing any one of Bach's inventions on the piano...
> There was another musical genius.
> Squat

Oh, they were.  But what about the genius who almost single handedly ushered
in the era we call "Classical" today?  Rudolfo Luigi Bocchirini (sp?).
Since *I* am so fond of strings, I find his works much more enjoyable.  If
you'd like some quick examples, then just have a go at "Master & Commander:
The Far Side of the World"   Excellent movie too!
McG.

>> You know music...
>>
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>>
>> I pray that some of you listen.
Shawk - 17 Dec 2005 00:21 GMT
> Stri,
> Try playing any one of Bach's inventions on the piano...
> There was another musical genius.
> Squat

I like Bach but for baroque I preferred Johann Pachebel (if you haven't
heard his fugues you'll definitely have heard Canon in D major)

>> You know music...
>>
>> But you dont, you just think you do. Listen to Mozart's requiem, then
>> you will know.

Love the requiem though parts of it were completed by others after his death
I believe?

>> It sometimes takes sacrifice to realize that you're listening to genius.
>>
>> Here endeth the drunkth post.

Dont believe a word - you only spelt one word wrong and you're making
sense... ;-)

>> I pray that some of you listen.
Jack Harney - 17 Dec 2005 01:17 GMT
Was playing Quake II and this wonderously appropriate music started...
It was the part where you were going through the prison... Didn't
realize I had left a CD of Mozarts "Clarinet quinintet in A flat"  in
my changer..... Mozart is probably THE genius of them all.....

>> Stri,
>> Try playing any one of Bach's inventions on the piano...
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
>>> I pray that some of you listen.
Peter [AGHL] - 17 Dec 2005 09:49 GMT
> Was playing Quake II and this wonderously appropriate music started...
> It was the part where you were going through the prison... Didn't
> realize I had left a CD of Mozarts "Clarinet quinintet in A flat"  in
> my changer..... Mozart is probably THE genius of them all.....

Oh I don't know :)

Ever seen Space Odyssey 2001?
You know the opening sequence (dawn of man) where the bone is thrown in the
air and the scene changes to outer space

Best use of prerecorded classical music I have ever experienced in a movie

- Peter
phexitol - 17 Dec 2005 10:18 GMT
>>Was playing Quake II and this wonderously appropriate music started...
>>It was the part where you were going through the prison... Didn't
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> - Peter

Yall shud trie teh Linkin Park dood!!! they our jeniuses!!!11

J/K

But seriously, Aphex Twin, AKA Richard D James is a modern master if
there is one.
Shawk - 17 Dec 2005 12:14 GMT
> Yall shud trie teh Linkin Park dood!!! they our jeniuses!!!11

Got a few albums of theirs but prefer the Foo's and the Chilli's.  Foo's
were excellent in Birmingham last Sunday...

Have everything from Bach to Foo's to Walker Brothers to Motorhead to Rage
Against the Machine on this PC.  Depends what mood I'm in as to what I play.
Stri - 17 Dec 2005 18:00 GMT
proclaimed....

> Yall shud trie teh Linkin Park dood!!! they our jeniuses!!!11
>
> J/K
>
> But seriously, Aphex Twin, AKA Richard D James is a modern master if
> there is one.

Oh god.

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WildStyle24_7 - 21 Dec 2005 13:51 GMT
> But seriously, Aphex Twin, AKA Richard D James is a modern master if
> there is one.

I like his stuff a lot, but do find that it's a bit difficult sometimes
to spot the line between "pushing the envelope" and "blatantly taking
the piss".

-
Wildy
Stri - 17 Dec 2005 18:00 GMT
Peter [AGHL] proclaimed....

> Oh I don't know :)
>
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>
> Best use of prerecorded classical music I have ever experienced in a movie

Pah, what about Blue Danube, sure that was the best piece of music used
in that film although I won't deny that the openning sequence music was
more profound.

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Peter [AGHL] - 17 Dec 2005 18:22 GMT
> Peter [AGHL] proclaimed....
>
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> in that film although I won't deny that the openning sequence music was
> more profound.

Getting old?
"Chimp throws bone in the ear" aannnd cut
"spaceship moves towards airlock" - music score is?
Yes you are right

"An der schönen blauen Donau" or Blue Danube as you foreigners prefer to
call this beautifull wallz written by Johan Straus

The initial was Also Sprach Zarathustra (Thus Spoke Zarathustra) by Richard
Straus (not related to J Straus btw)
This score is very impressive in a large cinema with decent soundequipment
not reproduceable on an ordinary TVset

- Peter
Stri - 17 Dec 2005 18:30 GMT
Peter [AGHL] proclaimed....

> Getting old?
> "Chimp throws bone in the ear" aannnd cut
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> This score is very impressive in a large cinema with decent soundequipment
> not reproduceable on an ordinary TVset

Are you sure, maybe it's this one I'm thinking of?

Aram Khachaturyan        (from "Ballet Suite Gayaneh") (as Aram
Khatchaturian)

See I can use IMDB too grasshopper :p

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Peter [AGHL] - 17 Dec 2005 19:37 GMT
> Are you sure, maybe it's this one I'm thinking of?

Yep
http://kubrickfilms.warnerbros.com/faq/2001_faq.html

> Aram Khachaturyan (from "Ballet Suite Gayaneh") (as Aram
> Khatchaturian)

Ehh - you're putting me on - right?

- Peter
Stri - 18 Dec 2005 06:12 GMT
Peter [AGHL] proclaimed....

> Ehh - you're putting me on - right?

I remember the music with the drama about it, the drum roll, are you
trying to tell me this is early Blue Danube as it certainly doesn't
sound like it to me.

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G Hardy - 19 Dec 2005 15:16 GMT
> Peter [AGHL] proclaimed....
>
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> trying to tell me this is early Blue Danube as it certainly doesn't
> sound like it to me.

"Blue Danube" is the one that plays as the shuttle comes in to dock with the
space station - copied on the best game ever - Elite.

The pounding drums are indeed on Also Sprach Zarathustra, I didn't think it
was the opening sequence, though.
Jack Harney - 17 Dec 2005 20:21 GMT
"Thus Spake Zarathustra"

>Peter [AGHL] proclaimed....
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>in that film although I won't deny that the openning sequence music was
>more profound.
Peter [AGHL] - 17 Dec 2005 23:04 GMT
> "Thus Spake Zarathustra"

Spake?

Have you been drinking again?
Don't do that - you know what it'll do to the little brain cells you've left

- Peter
Jack Harney - 18 Dec 2005 01:03 GMT
Must keep them anesthetized so they don't run wild....
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>> "Thus Spake Zarathustra"
>>
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>
>- Peter
Stri - 17 Dec 2005 17:59 GMT
Jack Harney proclaimed....

> Was playing Quake II and this wonderously appropriate music started...
> It was the part where you were going through the prison... Didn't
> realize I had left a CD of Mozarts "Clarinet quinintet in A flat"  in
> my changer..... Mozart is probably THE genius of them all.....

I did that with another piece of music, can't remember what it was but I
had to laugh at how inappropriate it was.

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G Hardy - 19 Dec 2005 15:20 GMT
> Jack Harney proclaimed....
>
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> I did that with another piece of music, can't remember what it was but I
> had to laugh at how inappropriate it was.

My wife couldn't believe it when she heard "Jilted John" come on as I jacked
a car in Grand Theft Auto.
Civilian_Target - 17 Dec 2005 12:55 GMT
> I like Bach but for baroque I preferred Johann Pachebel (if you haven't
> heard his fugues you'll definitely have heard Canon in D major)

I don't agree! There is some excellent Bach, but when it comes to
Baroque - I find it very hard to beat Vivaldi. Take a listen to
Vivaldi's Concerto for 2 violins in D, it's a wonderful, intricate,
complicated piece of music that fits together perfectly...

Civilian_Target
Shawk - 17 Dec 2005 13:39 GMT
>> I like Bach but for baroque I preferred Johann Pachebel (if you haven't
>> heard his fugues you'll definitely have heard Canon in D major)
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Civilian_Target

Got to admit I dont have any Vivaldi...... :(
Stri - 17 Dec 2005 18:02 GMT
Civilian_Target proclaimed....

> I don't agree! There is some excellent Bach, but when it comes to
> Baroque - I find it very hard to beat Vivaldi. Take a listen to
> Vivaldi's Concerto for 2 violins in D, it's a wonderful, intricate,
> complicated piece of music that fits together perfectly...

Soz, disagree as much as you like, you're still wrong. I really do like
Vivaldi too and the four seasons is excellent (especially winter) but it
*really* pisses me off that it's over used in adverts.

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Civilian_Target - 18 Dec 2005 12:36 GMT
> Soz, disagree as much as you like, you're still wrong. I really do like
> Vivaldi too and the four seasons is excellent (especially winter) but it
> *really* pisses me off that it's over used in adverts.

I agree with you there actually - Winter is my favourite of the 4
seasons too - very underrated....

Civilian_Target
Civilian_Target - 18 Dec 2005 11:49 GMT
>> I like Bach but for baroque I preferred Johann Pachebel (if you
>> haven't heard his fugues you'll definitely have heard Canon in D major)
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Vivaldi's Concerto for 2 violins in D, it's a wonderful, intricate,
> complicated piece of music that fits together perfectly...

Whoops - lol! Just proved my own argument wrong there - the Concerto for
2 Violins in D is Bach :( The Concerto of Vivaldis I had in mind was
actually Op.3 No.8 - which is also a really great piece of music. The
version I have of it is live too - so while not absolutely note perfect
it hasn't lost any expression in the recording...

Civilian_Target
G Hardy - 19 Dec 2005 15:22 GMT
> ...but when it comes to
> Baroque - I find it very hard to beat Vivaldi...

The "Winter" part of "Four Seasons" has got to be the best ever - as long as
it's not the version that Nigel Kennedy completely f*ck*d up.
Stri - 17 Dec 2005 17:58 GMT
Shawk proclaimed....

> Love the requiem though parts of it were completed by others after his death
> I believe?

So it is said. Having said that I've listened to it an absurd amount of
times and I have difficulty distinguishing one part from another.

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Squat - 18 Dec 2005 03:50 GMT
>> Stri,
>> Try playing any one of Bach's inventions on the piano...
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I like Bach but for baroque I preferred Johann Pachebel (if you haven't
> heard his fugues you'll definitely have heard Canon in D major)

Oh yeah, a string quartet played that during our wedding. They would not
have been hired if they could not have played it.  I have a classical guitar
version around here somewhere that makes it quite easy to play but still
keeps the piece intact.
I have played his fugetta. Took me a long time to learn it. One piece that I
never could play from memory. Can only play it while reading the score.  I
am an intermediate piano player (at best)

Bachs 1st invention (c major) is commited to memoy as I have played it
hundreds of times. I am working on his a-minor invention and his c major
fugue. Both are wonderful but challenging. Bach's cello suites are an
amazing work as well.

McG mentioned Bocharini. That's a name I've never run across. I'll have to
see if I can find anything by him.

Bach, Hyden (sp?), Scarlatti and Telemman are my personnal favorites to play
on the piano.

Guess we all have our favorites.

>>> You know music...
>>>
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>
>>> I pray that some of you listen.
McGrandpa - 18 Dec 2005 10:53 GMT
>>> Stri,
>>> Try playing any one of Bach's inventions on the piano...
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>
> Guess we all have our favorites.

Hayden was a contemporary of Rudolfo Luigi Boccherini.  Luigi wrote a LOT of
music for strings.  Trios, quartets and quintets for the violin, viola and
cello abound.  He wrote commissioned pieces for guitar also, which until
this time wasn't considered a 'classical' instrument.   He was a virtuoso
cellist himself from a young age.
Yes, we do all have our favorites.   W. A. Mozart was a true musical genius,
but he is known more for full orchestral work.  I'm into strings...
McG.
Peter [AGHL] - 18 Dec 2005 11:09 GMT
> I'm into strings...

G-string?

Me to :)

- Peter
Shawk - 18 Dec 2005 12:27 GMT
>> I'm into strings...
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> - Peter

What you wear at weekends is none of our concern......

Though it might help get you into David's club...

;-)
McGrandpa - 18 Dec 2005 12:45 GMT
>> I'm into strings...
>
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>
> - Peter

LOL!
Squat - 18 Dec 2005 21:00 GMT
>>>> Stri,
>>>> Try playing any one of Bach's inventions on the piano...
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> strings...
> McG.

That explains why he is not any any of my piano music books!
I'll have to look out for a CD of his music next time I am in the city.
Cheers!
Squat
McGrandpa - 19 Dec 2005 00:33 GMT
>>>>> Stri,
>>>>> Try playing any one of Bach's inventions on the piano...
[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
> Cheers!
> Squat

Luigi had been commissioned by an ambassador to write a set (opus?) to
commemorate Napoleons conquest of Spain, 'presented' to Napoleon during his
review of his armada at the Grand Canal palace in Venice.   It was from
these pieces evidently that the music in "Master and Commander" came from.
One of my all time faves is (loosely translated) "Night Dancing in the
Streets of Madrid"   There are movements in the opus I don't care for, but
some of them are brilliant :)  And, they're for strings...with bows.
Interesting that the captain and ships doctor (British officers both) would
be playing these pieces.  Britain was fighting Napoleon (France) and I guess
Spain and Portugal too during this period.
Crow and Bethany actually learned to play their three pieces for the film.
Fine work of them both, if that's them really playing :)   So the soundtrack
of Master and Commander will have some of Luigis work on it too.

Humorous imagining so many of us bloodthirsty crowbar mongers enjoying
Classical music so much!   *especially* our resident old fart...CF...whom I
imagined being into Lawrence Welk and Swing big bands.

McG.    :)
Squat - 19 Dec 2005 03:33 GMT
> Humorous imagining so many of us bloodthirsty crowbar mongers enjoying
> Classical music so much!   *especially* our resident old fart...CF...whom
> I imagined being into Lawrence Welk and Swing big bands.
>
> McG.    :)

I was rather surprised by that as well.
Stri - 17 Dec 2005 17:57 GMT
Squat proclaimed....

> Stri,
> Try playing any one of Bach's inventions on the piano...
> There was another musical genius.
> Squat

Pah, a mere pretender although I do love the likes of the Moonlight
Sonata.

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Squat - 18 Dec 2005 03:51 GMT
> Squat proclaimed....
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Pah, a mere pretender although I do love the likes of the Moonlight
> Sonata.

Dude, that was Beethoven.
Stri - 18 Dec 2005 06:15 GMT
Squat proclaimed....

> Dude, that was Beethoven.

Yes, sorry. Early starts do wonders for my memory.

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Squat - 18 Dec 2005 20:59 GMT
> Squat proclaimed....
>
>> Dude, that was Beethoven.
>
> Yes, sorry. Early starts do wonders for my memory.

Try having children....
Stri - 18 Dec 2005 22:11 GMT
Squat proclaimed....

> Try having children....

I'd rather not.

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Civilian_Target - 17 Dec 2005 12:39 GMT
> You know music...
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> I pray that some of you listen.

lol! I got about 1/3rd of the way though a drunken post last night
replying to this, and then passed out....

Yeah - supposed to be playing the Requiem with the orchestra next May -
should be a laugh. I'll get to know it very well then!

Civilian_Target
Stri - 17 Dec 2005 18:03 GMT
Civilian_Target proclaimed....

> lol! I got about 1/3rd of the way though a drunken post last night
> replying to this, and then passed out....
>
> Yeah - supposed to be playing the Requiem with the orchestra next May -
> should be a laugh. I'll get to know it very well then!

An old friend of mine Jill got to see Mozart's Requiem performed at
Durham Cathedral.

Least to say, I was very jealous.

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Lief - 18 Dec 2005 09:19 GMT
> You know music...

For sure :)

Check this out if you aint already:

http://www.classiccat.net/
Stri - 18 Dec 2005 17:07 GMT
Lief proclaimed....

> > You know music...
>
> For sure :)

bah take me out of context will you. I'm sure I must have had an insult
in there somewhere.

> Check this out if you aint already:
>
> http://www.classiccat.net/

That's pretty cool, cheers

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Stri - 18 Dec 2005 17:20 GMT
Lief proclaimed....

> > > You know music...
> >
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> That's pretty cool, cheers

This is pretty much unheard of I think but you may well enjoy it as much
as I do. Don't try and listen to his other stuff though.

http://tinyurl.com/8k7dd

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