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Game Forum / Action Games / Half Life / October 2005No chance playing HL2 with this graphics card?
I think the answer is "NO", but I'm asking anyway... I have a PC with integrated video card, that gets ~1500 3DMark2001 marks. That is approx 25% of what a GeForce4 MX440 DDR gets. Many posts say an MX440 will allow play, but won't look very good, as all the fancy features must be turned off. What sort of playing experience could I expect? (Before I download the demo and see.) Thanks, Mark PS: Rest of system: Pentium 4 2GHz, 400MHz FSB, 256MB > I have a PC with integrated video card What GPU style/type? rgds/Peter >> I have a PC with integrated video card > > What GPU style/type? It's an Intel Extreme Graphics http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets/eg1/ It's DirectX 9.0 compatible (hardware), but does not support pixel shaders. I have a 4x AGP 2.0 slot (Low Profile) but only a 175W PSU and I suspect it's a custom size and shape (Compaq Evo D510 Short Form Factor). Compaq had an MX440 part that fitted, so if I could find a Low Profile MX440 that would work. What GPU/card would use as much power as an MX440, but give greater performance, while fitting into an AGP 2.0 Low Profile slot? Thanks, Mark > It's an Intel Extreme Graphics > http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets/eg1/ > > It's DirectX 9.0 compatible (hardware), but does not support pixel > shaders. I am running HL2 on my laptop which indeed has the onboard Intel EG thing Other specs i 2.0 Pentium M and 1 Gb mem Looks like sh.t compared to a decent gaming rig, but it is playable - Peter >> It's an Intel Extreme Graphics >> http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets/eg1/ [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Looks like sh.t compared to a decent gaming rig, but it is > playable Much abliged! I believe there is some low profile fx5200 or Radeon 9250 cards available.Try a google or froogle search.Look for a card with128mb 128-bit memory interface and no DVI.You might have to order the low profile backplate seperately.Another 512 memory would really help also.That board takes standard 184-pin PC2100 ddr sdram non-ecc unbuffered.-Vic > I believe there is some low profile fx5200 or Radeon 9250 cards > available.Try a google or froogle search.Look for a card with128mb > 128-bit memory interface and no DVI.You might have to order the low > profile backplate seperately. Would one of those work with only a 175W PSU? (It's very hard to find power requirements for GPUs online!) > Another 512 memory would really help > also.That board takes standard 184-pin PC2100 ddr sdram non-ecc > unbuffered.-Vic Yes, I was thinking of doing that. Thanks! Mark > I think the answer is "NO", but I'm asking anyway... > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > PS: Rest of system: Pentium 4 2GHz, 400MHz FSB, 256MB Without knowing exactly what the onboard chipset you have there is, there's no sure way of telling. the Source engine needs (as a minimum requirement) a card which supports DirectX7 - if your chipset doesn't support that, then the answer is a definite 'No'. if it does support that, then you should get it to run, albeit at minimum detail + low framerates.  SignatureBen Cottrell AKA Bench > I think the answer is "NO", but I'm asking anyway... > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Thanks, > Mark It will run, or rather, it will trudge along at the pace of an parapalegic sloth. If you enjoy slideshows, buy it. If not, but a cheap 9800 to get some enjoyment out of it, and probably some more ram (at least 512mb is needed these days, ifyou have RDRAM, I feel sorry for you :) .) > It will run, or rather, it will trudge along at the pace of an parapalegic > sloth. Probably even worse :-) > If you enjoy slideshows, buy it. If not, but a cheap 9800 to get some > enjoyment out of it, and probably some more ram (at least 512mb is needed > these days, ifyou have RDRAM, I feel sorry for you :) .) With an integrated video card the chances of haveíng an AGP slot is rather slim Getting a PCI probably won't give the OP any real benefit You can choose between a ATI 9250 or an FX 5200 On a sidenote: You can also get Matrox Millenium (or Parhelia) or NVidia Quadro4 - Peter >> It will run, or rather, it will trudge along at the pace of an >> parapalegic sloth. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > On a sidenote: You can also get Matrox Millenium (or Parhelia) > or NVidia Quadro4 Ah! nVidea Quadro4 200NVS was another Compaq part (and so presumably works within 175W). I (half-heartedly) tried googling to see how a Quadro4 performed compared to an MX420 (typo - I said MX440 previously), but wasn't able to find out how a Quadro4 compared to an MX420... Thanks, Mark > If you enjoy slideshows, buy it. If not, but a cheap 9800 to get some > enjoyment out of it, and probably some more ram (at least 512mb is needed > these days, ifyou have RDRAM, I feel sorry for you :) .) You ever get the feeling that sometimes the march of progress rewards people seemingly at random? If, for example, you bet on the RDRAM horse ... well then you bet wrong. Similarly for investing in Intel vs. AMD in the 80's; even though they are doing comparable business now your investment in Intel would've made you millions and you'd have lost everything put into AMD. > It will run, or rather, it will trudge along at the pace of an parapalegic > sloth. My brother had one of those, but it ran away. - - David davidfirewater(a)hotmail.com |
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