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Ben Cottrell - 27 Sep 2005 14:57 GMT Just a quick question - how much space does everyone's Steam folder take up on their HD? mine takes up a whopping 9GB .. which is a bit annoying since the partition on which it is installed is only 10GB (I assumed a couple of years ago when I installed it that 10GB would be ample.. whoops) :-/ lack of space on that partition appears to be causing me some weird errors in Steam too.. damn.
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Shawk - 27 Sep 2005 15:02 GMT > Just a quick question - how much space does everyone's Steam folder take > up on their HD? mine takes up a whopping 9GB .. which is a bit annoying > since the partition on which it is installed is only 10GB (I assumed a > couple of years ago when I installed it that 10GB would be ample.. whoops) > :-/ lack of space on that partition appears to be causing me some weird > errors in Steam too.. damn. 6.58GB. Includes:
HL OpFor BS DOD Codename Gordon (never started that one - must have a look) HL2 HL2:DM CS:S Minerva:Metastasis Tim Co-op
Plus high-rez patch for HL2 characters.
Ben Cottrell - 27 Sep 2005 15:30 GMT >>Just a quick question - how much space does everyone's Steam folder take >>up on their HD? mine takes up a whopping 9GB .. which is a bit annoying [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Plus high-rez patch for HL2 characters. hmm.. you seem to have more than me, yet you use a hell of alot less space! I'll have to check my custom maps/sounds/models..
HL OpFor DoD TFC HL2 HL2:DM CS:S
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Shawk - 27 Sep 2005 16:01 GMT > hmm.. you seem to have more than me, yet you use a hell of alot less > space! I'll have to check my custom maps/sounds/models.. How are you checking it? In Windows Explorer I'm right-clicking on Valve in Program Files and looking at the file properties...
Ben Cottrell - 27 Sep 2005 17:17 GMT >>hmm.. you seem to have more than me, yet you use a hell of alot less >>space! I'll have to check my custom maps/sounds/models.. > > How are you checking it? In Windows Explorer I'm right-clicking on Valve in > Program Files and looking at the file properties... Well I was checking the size of the F:\Program Files\Steam folder .. if I highlight all .GCF files it comes to around 6.4GB. my steam username folder comes to around 2GB. AFAIK, none of the games actually need any of the content in the username folder.
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McGrandpa - 27 Sep 2005 23:16 GMT >> hmm.. you seem to have more than me, yet you use a hell of alot less >> space! I'll have to check my custom maps/sounds/models.. > > How are you checking it? In Windows Explorer I'm right-clicking on Valve > in Program Files and looking at the file properties... Harumpfh! I put the thing in C:\Games\Steam and everything goes under that. McG.
Cannon Fodder - 28 Sep 2005 00:03 GMT Geeze, wonder why mine is 11.3 GB (12,186,543,782 bytes)??? Maybe it's the dedicated server....
>>> hmm.. you seem to have more than me, yet you use a hell of alot less >>> space! I'll have to check my custom maps/sounds/models.. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Harumpfh! I put the thing in C:\Games\Steam and everything goes under that. >McG. --
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Bounty Bob - 29 Sep 2005 09:33 GMT > Geeze, wonder why mine is 11.3 GB (12,186,543,782 bytes)??? Maybe it's > the dedicated server.... 14GB. 9.75FB of gcfs. So I'm assuming the rest is saved games from all the single player antics.
Jethro - 29 Sep 2005 19:55 GMT >>>hmm.. you seem to have more than me, yet you use a hell of alot less >>>space! I'll have to check my custom maps/sounds/models.. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Harumpfh! I put the thing in C:\Games\Steam and everything goes under that. > McG. I hear ya. All games to go separate drive. (was a nearly full 60Gb now a more relaxed 80Gb) D:\Games\Steam for me
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desert - 27 Sep 2005 18:56 GMT >>>Just a quick question - how much space does everyone's Steam folder take >>>up on their HD? mine takes up a whopping 9GB .. which is a bit annoying [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >HL2:DM >CS:S fat, ntfs what file system?
Ben Cottrell - 28 Sep 2005 02:55 GMT >>hmm.. you seem to have more than me, yet you use a hell of alot less >>space! I'll have to check my custom maps/sounds/models.. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > fat, ntfs what file system? my F: drive is FAT32. I don't think using NTFS makes much difference does it? (Except for zero'ing off unused sectors)
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McGrandpa - 27 Sep 2005 23:15 GMT >>>Just a quick question - how much space does everyone's Steam folder take >>>up on their HD? mine takes up a whopping 9GB .. which is a bit annoying [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > HL2:DM > CS:S That's probably it, you have more 3rd party maps. I have over 300 HL2DM maps and still end up dl'ing more every time i get on a server! McG.
Ben Cottrell - 28 Sep 2005 02:57 GMT > That's probably it, you have more 3rd party maps. I have over 300 HL2DM > maps and still end up dl'ing more every time i get on a server! > McG. cripes! 300 maps! I think most of my custom maps are actually in HL1/CS/etc.. I built up quite a collection over the years.. my HL2DM & CSS folders are relatively small :)
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Cannon Fodder - 28 Sep 2005 03:32 GMT Don't lose them.... I think it's about time for an old fashioned HLDM with real weapons including Snarks, crossbows and RPGs... Who's up for it?????? I'm a crip now but it would be fun.....
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 02:57:06 +0100, Ben Cornball <bench@bench333.screaming.net> wrote:
>> That's probably it, you have more 3rd party maps. I have over 300 HL2DM >> maps and still end up dl'ing more every time i get on a server! [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >HL1/CS/etc.. I built up quite a collection over the years.. my HL2DM & >CSS folders are relatively small :) --
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David Firewater - 28 Sep 2005 12:33 GMT > Don't lose them.... I think it's about time for an old fashioned > HLDM with real weapons including Snarks, crossbows and > RPGs... Who's up for it?????? I'm a crip now but it would > be fun..... I'm for it CF, pending work shifts. Which rules out every Fri and Sat night this time of year. - - David davidfirewater(a)hotmail.com
Ben Cottrell - 28 Sep 2005 23:31 GMT >>Don't lose them.... I think it's about time for an old fashioned >>HLDM with real weapons including Snarks, crossbows and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I'm for it CF, pending work shifts. Which rules out every Fri and Sat night > this time of year. Fri and Sat are most definitely out for me too. the traditional HLDM bash night was sunday though. anyone else?
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DrC[aghl] - 28 Sep 2005 13:18 GMT > I'm a crip now but it would be fun..... ive always been a crip and can still kick a.s....bring on the walking kind...yeee haaa
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David Firewater - 28 Sep 2005 14:13 GMT > ive always been a crip and can still kick > a.s....bring on the walking kind...yeee haaa I'm putting the a.s kicking you gave me on DM last week down to a fluke, Doc. Next time... - - David davidfirewater(a)hotmail.com
Lief - 28 Sep 2005 20:51 GMT > Don't lose them.... I think it's about time for an old fashioned HLDM > with real weapons including Snarks, crossbows and RPGs... Who's up for > it?????? I'm a crip now but it would be fun..... Ohh would be fun to fire up the Tau-Cannon again :p
Jimbob - 28 Sep 2005 21:13 GMT > Don't lose them.... I think it's about time for an old fashioned HLDM > with real weapons including Snarks, crossbows and RPGs... Who's up for > it?????? I'm a crip now but it would be fun..... Just name a time and place and i'm there.
Cannon Fodder - 28 Sep 2005 23:14 GMT OK, I have "The Rats Cat House" server up and running with the usual array of Rats maps... Check it out and see how bad the lag is... Remember, this is Half-Life, NOT Half-Life2....
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 21:13:46 +0100, "Jingo" <richard.(REMOVE)burkinshaw@(REMOVE)gmail.com> wrote:
>> Don't lose them.... I think it's about time for an old fashioned HLDM >> with real weapons including Snarks, crossbows and RPGs... Who's up for >> it?????? I'm a crip now but it would be fun..... > >Just name a time and place and i'm there. --
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Lief - 29 Sep 2005 07:36 GMT > OK, I have "The Rats Cat House" server up and running with the usual > array of Rats maps... Check it out and see how bad the lag is... > Remember, this is Half-Life, NOT Half-Life2.... Cool. found it, pings at about 160ish from North London....guess will be a proper nostalgic game, like when I had me 33.6k modem of terror! :p
Hope to catch some people on there at some point!
Shawk - 29 Sep 2005 09:54 GMT >> OK, I have "The Rats Cat House" server up and running with the usual >> array of Rats maps... Check it out and see how bad the lag is... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Hope to catch some people on there at some point! Where do I find the maps guys? Might join you for this one...
Shawk - 29 Sep 2005 10:19 GMT >>> OK, I have "The Rats Cat House" server up and running with the usual >>> array of Rats maps... Check it out and see how bad the lag is... [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Where do I find the maps guys? Might join you for this one... Additional questions from the noob. What's the server IP to find the server in 'Servers/favourites' in Steam or how do I otherwise find the Rats Cat House?
Anything else I should know?
David Firewater - 29 Sep 2005 11:49 GMT > Additional questions from the noob. What's the server IP to find the server > in 'Servers/favourites' in Steam or how do I otherwise find the Rats Cat > House? Refresh your server list, then sort them alphabetically. It's there right now.
> Anything else I should know? Yeah, never make love on a stretcher. You might get carried away. - - David davidfirewater(a)hotmail.com
Shawk - 29 Sep 2005 13:44 GMT >> Additional questions from the noob. What's the server IP to find the > server [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Refresh your server list, then sort them alphabetically. It's there right > now. Done that - can't see it. Looked at all those beginning with 'The' and all those beginning with 'Rats' and even looked for ". Did I miss it or am I being thick? Why isn't there a damn search function?
Anyone know the IP address? - that was the only way I found Peter's once
Lief - 29 Sep 2005 15:51 GMT > >> Additional questions from the noob. What's the server IP to find the > > server [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Anyone know the IP address? - that was the only way I found Peter's once www.gametiger.net
Go to server, type in The Rats Cat House
Shawk - 29 Sep 2005 16:57 GMT >> >> Additional questions from the noob. What's the server IP to find the >> > server [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Go to server, type in The Rats Cat House Thanks Lief, that is probably the single most useful post in here since Striders 'Alternative uses for socks'. Worked great. Server now in favourites and briefly tested (was that Mr Firewater I fragged)? Sorry I left - have some work to finish (scintillating stuff on lifting operations and lifting equipment regulations).
Next question - is there a map pack? Takes around 2 minutes to download each one during the game and by the time I've done that, joined a game, had a look around to get some bearings, been killed a dozen times the maps changing again and I'm downloading again.
Ta.
David Firewater - 29 Sep 2005 17:38 GMT "Shawk" <shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> wrote . Worked great. Server now in
> favourites and briefly tested (was that Mr Firewater > I fragged)? Sorry I left - have some work to finish > (scintillating stuff on lifting operations and lifting > equipment regulations). Yeah, it was me. Were you just called Player? I seem to recall I had a good score before you left. -\o/- David davidfirewater(a)hotmail.com
Shawk - 29 Sep 2005 17:49 GMT > "Shawk" <shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> wrote > . Worked great. Server now in [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > good > score before you left. Yeah, that was me and I did spend the majority of my brief foray flat on my back, dead so I guess I contributed to your score :-)
I did just presume my Steam user name would have carried across but apparently not. I'll ensure it's there next time so you know who your damn snarks are chasing....
Cannon Fodder - 29 Sep 2005 22:26 GMT Remember, I have a dynamic IP which means the address will change if I have to restart or reboot the machine...
>>> >> Additional questions from the noob. What's the server IP to find the >>> > server [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > >Ta. --
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Shawk - 30 Sep 2005 01:19 GMT > Remember, I have a dynamic IP which means the address will change if I > have to restart or reboot the machine... I'm guessing gametiger (the site in Lief's post) could still find it if your IP changes and I go all short-sighted again?
Cannon Fodder - 30 Sep 2005 01:45 GMT Use the Steam "Servers", set your filter to Half-Life and it will show... Click on server name and it will alphabetize... Pretty simple... :)
Just realized why the server bogs down after 8 people join... I'm using a Hub instead of a router or switch... Ordered a router/switch from Directron and will pick it up tomorrow... Have 3 'puters connected to my DSL and a hub splits the signal three equal ways and not by demand... Dumb old fart...
>> Remember, I have a dynamic IP which means the address will change if I >> have to restart or reboot the machine... > >I'm guessing gametiger (the site in Lief's post) could still find it if your >IP changes and I go all short-sighted again? --
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Lief - 30 Sep 2005 04:11 GMT "Shawk" <shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> wrote in
> Thanks Lief, that is probably the single most useful post in here since Nps I must of been having a fit at the time I made that post or something :p
David Firewater - 29 Sep 2005 16:37 GMT > Done that - can't see it. Looked at all those beginning with > 'The' and all those beginning with 'Rats' and even looked for ". > Did I miss it or am I being thick? Why isn't there a damn > search function? I'm starting HL, *not* HL2, then checking the servers... Does that help?
> Anyone know the IP address? - that was the only way I found Peter's once 67.101.66.103:27016 - - David davidfirewater(a)hotmail.com
Sionnach - 28 Sep 2005 01:06 GMT > Codename Gordon (never started that one - must have a look) FYI - it's a side-scrolling game, at a graphic level just a bit above Duke Nukem; the *original* Duke.
Shawk - 28 Sep 2005 01:16 GMT >> Codename Gordon (never started that one - must have a look) > > FYI - it's a side-scrolling game, at a graphic level just a bit above > Duke > Nukem; the *original* Duke. Thanks. I'd heard of it but had just never started it.... still haven't .... one day, one day.
Lief - 27 Sep 2005 17:09 GMT > Just a quick question - how much space does everyone's Steam folder take > up on their HD? mine takes up a whopping 9GB .. 6.45GB, dont think I added anything, I only play cs through steam.
which is a bit annoying
> since the partition on which it is installed is only 10GB (I assumed a > couple of years ago when I installed it that 10GB would be ample.. > whoops) :-/ lack of space on that partition appears to be causing me > some weird errors in Steam too.. damn. Maybe not, I think Steam has some issues right now, looking at the forums and judging by how few servers seem to be up, and the fact my game will freeze and crash to desktop after a few minutes. This has only happened since the latest update though.
Ben Cottrell - 27 Sep 2005 17:24 GMT >>Just a quick question - how much space does everyone's Steam folder take >>up on their HD? mine takes up a whopping 9GB .. > > 6.45GB, dont think I added anything, I only play cs through steam. Ditto - I could probably remove all the old HL1 stuff since I never actually play those on steam, I keep my HL1110 folder for that :)
> Maybe not, I think Steam has some issues right now, looking at the forums > and judging by how few servers seem to be up, and the fact my game will > freeze and crash to desktop after a few minutes. This has only happened > since the latest update though. You could well be right :-) I haven't played any games since the latest patch/update. - the more worrying thing was that Steam outright refused to start earlier
Although I re-ran the installation .exe and cleared out a bunch of stuff on the drive to free up a couple hundred MB - at least Steam starts, I daren't install DOD:S just in case it is a problem with HD space)
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Shawk - 27 Sep 2005 17:25 GMT >> Just a quick question - how much space does everyone's Steam folder take >> up on their HD? mine takes up a whopping 9GB .. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > freeze and crash to desktop after a few minutes. This has only happened > since the latest update though. I've had some of the old stuttering issues since the latest patch but no CTD's. HDR seems to be enabled 'full' in advanced video options. I've turned it to 'off' and I'll try it again later - maybe try that? Valve need to fix their latest patch soonest.
If you have an ATI card I've also had some issues with the ATI 5.8 and 5.9's (lock ups on various games). Gone back to Omega 5.6's for now. No probs since.
Some of my probs may be to do with new PC parts, remnants of old drivers etc. I'm thinking of wiping the drive and having a fresh re-install soon.
Ron Joiner - 27 Sep 2005 19:16 GMT >>>Just a quick question - how much space does everyone's Steam folder take >>>up on their HD? mine takes up a whopping 9GB .. [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Some of my probs may be to do with new PC parts, remnants of old drivers > etc. I'm thinking of wiping the drive and having a fresh re-install soon. Yes, also noticed some stuttering with the latest drivers. HDR is also enabled in video propoerties. Wonder if that has anything to do with it. Question. Is any part of HL2 HDR enabled or are we getting ready for Lost Coast?
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Shawk - 27 Sep 2005 19:30 GMT > Yes, also noticed some stuttering with the latest drivers. HDR is also > enabled in video propoerties. Wonder if that has anything to do with it. > Question. Is any part of HL2 HDR enabled or are we getting ready for Lost > Coast? > > Ron AFAIK the only HDR is in the forthcoming Lost Coast.
As to the stuttering there is another update today - hopefully this will help...
From Steam News...
A small update has just been released which will correct a Source engine DirectX configuration problem. The DirectX 9.0c End-User Runtime from Microsoft is required. When launching a Source engine game on Steam, users who don't have this latest version of DirectX will be directed to this page to get the installer
DrC[aghl] - 27 Sep 2005 21:07 GMT > Just a quick question - how much space does everyone's Steam folder take > up on their HD? 8.80 gb.....
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McGrandpa - 27 Sep 2005 23:14 GMT > Just a quick question - how much space does everyone's Steam folder take > up on their HD? mine takes up a whopping 9GB .. which is a bit annoying > since the partition on which it is installed is only 10GB (I assumed a > couple of years ago when I installed it that 10GB would be ample.. whoops) > :-/ lack of space on that partition appears to be causing me some weird > errors in Steam too.. damn. 12.5 gigs here Ben, and that's after deleting the DoD:source gcf file. McG.
Jimbob - 27 Sep 2005 23:27 GMT >> Just a quick question - how much space does everyone's Steam folder >> take up on their HD? mine takes up a whopping 9GB .. which is a bit [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > 12.5 gigs here Ben, and that's after deleting the DoD:source gcf file. > McG. 8.4 here, what you got on there McG?
Ben Cottrell - 28 Sep 2005 02:54 GMT > 12.5 gigs here Ben, and that's after deleting the DoD:source gcf file. > McG. ah well, I guess 9GB isn't too bad afterall - looking at the contents of my Steam folder more closely I was able to eliminate a fair few fairly useless bits'n'pieces, my Steam folder is now down to 8.3GB - I'll just have to play around with my partitioning next time I do a reformat (one is long overdue, I've not done a proper reinstall of W2k for over 2 years).
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Jethro - 29 Sep 2005 20:36 GMT >> 12.5 gigs here Ben, and that's after deleting the DoD:source gcf file. >> McG. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > have to play around with my partitioning next time I do a reformat (one > is long overdue, I've not done a proper reinstall of W2k for over 2 years). Use Partiton Magic to shuffle partition sizes around. I use it all the time. You can move the Steam folder around if you delete the .blob file afterwards.
I see no reason why someone should suffer under the 10Gb limit for anything. My friend, the money hunger upgrade whore, installed his 3rd HDD giving him a storage capacity slightly over .5 Terabytes, as he's taken measuring it. :-\
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Mark Morrison - 29 Sep 2005 21:22 GMT >I see no reason why someone should suffer under the 10Gb limit for anything. >My friend, the money hunger upgrade whore, installed his 3rd HDD giving >him a storage capacity slightly over .5 Terabytes, as he's taken >measuring it. :-\ I have 4 - 3 internal and an external.
120, 160 and 120. My external is 250gb.
Mostly down to games, porn and a load of US TV shows that I've downloaded and am waiting to watch.
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Ben Cottrell - 29 Sep 2005 23:54 GMT >> ah well, I guess 9GB isn't too bad afterall - looking at the contents >> of my Steam folder more closely I was able to eliminate a fair few [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Use Partiton Magic to shuffle partition sizes around. I use it all the > time. heh, i've always meant to grab a proper copy of PM. I've a really, really old copy of Partition Magic 3 which someone gave me on a CD about 10 years ago (I don't think it even recognises FAT32 or NTFS).. might have a look around on amazon/play/etc :)
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Cannon Fodder - 30 Sep 2005 00:10 GMT Geeze kid ya can get it for $19.00... http://www.satellite-store.net/p22/Par-2.dwt
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 23:54:58 +0100, Ben Coverall <bench@bench333.screaming.net> wrote:
>>> ah well, I guess 9GB isn't too bad afterall - looking at the contents >>> of my Steam folder more closely I was able to eliminate a fair few [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >10 years ago (I don't think it even recognises FAT32 or NTFS).. might >have a look around on amazon/play/etc :) --
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Sq - 28 Sep 2005 19:15 GMT > Just a quick question - how much space does everyone's Steam folder take > up on their HD? mine takes up a whopping 9GB .. which is a bit annoying > since the partition on which it is installed is only 10GB (I assumed a > couple of years ago when I installed it that 10GB would be ample.. > whoops) :-/ lack of space on that partition appears to be causing me > some weird errors in Steam too.. damn. HL2 savegames can take up a lot of space, how many have you got?
Ben Cottrell - 28 Sep 2005 23:36 GMT > HL2 savegames can take up a lot of space, how many have you got? Not too many (maybe a dozen) - my main problem appeared to be old HL1-related content, which I temporarily moved to another drive until I can bother to rearrange my HD and give the Steam folder a new, bigger, home. I've got a good 300MB free after installing DOD:S, which should keep me ticking for now :)
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Jethro - 29 Sep 2005 19:53 GMT > Just a quick question - how much space does everyone's Steam folder take > up on their HD? mine takes up a whopping 9GB .. which is a bit annoying > since the partition on which it is installed is only 10GB (I assumed a > couple of years ago when I installed it that 10GB would be ample.. > whoops) :-/ lack of space on that partition appears to be causing me > some weird errors in Steam too.. damn. I got 9.99 Gb in my Steam folder. That is including the backups of the old CS and TFC for about 620Mb. Games installed are: HL2 CS:S DOD:S HL2:DM CS DOD HL:Blue Shift HL2:CTF FireArms (for HL1)
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