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Game Forum / Action Games / Half Life / March 2005HL2DM- "Your version of [dm\mapname.bsp] differs from servers" *DISCONNECTED*
OKAY! Steam is *NOT* a reliable means of keeping the damn game up to date. McG. Elaborate? Fra support http://kortlink.dk/pyn Den lange version: http://steampowered.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/steampowered.c fg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=52&p_created=1092282 809&p_sid=yaHPsjBh&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5 PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MTgyJnBfcHJvZHM9MCZwX2N hdHM9MCZwX3B2PSZwX2N2PSZwX3NlYXJjaF90eXBlPWFuc3dlcnMuc2 VhcmNoX25sJnBfcGFnZT0xJnBfc2VhcmNoX3RleHQ9bWFwIGRpZmZlc nMgZnJvbSBzZXJ2ZXI*&p_li=&p_topview=1 Hello Peter, I go to get into CF's server and play those cool Rats maps. So, I don't have any installed, and immediately the client starts dl'ing the map from the server. A few minutes later, an error dialog pops up with that message DISCONNECTED. "Your version of "dm\dm_bathroom.bsp" differs from servers" And that's the end of being in that server! Of the 4 maps, only one of the server downloads worked, and that was dm_rats_2005.bsp Thing is, I find this happening a LOT on various other servers afterward. So I got a bunch of files from FileFronts HL2 section. Some of them worked, some don't. I did get two other maps (CF used 5, not 4 last night) for a total of 3 that worked in his server. Still, the only one that worked that was downloaded direct from his server was dm_rats_2005.bsp! It's also frustrating to sit and wait for a small file of less than 10 megs to dl in several minutes when you're used to getting a 5 meg file in a second :( We need better access to the current maps in the rotations. But really, I'd love to know why the version I downloaded from the server is different from the one on that server. McG. > Elaborate? > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > VhcmNoX25sJnBfcGFnZT0xJnBfc2VhcmNoX3RleHQ9bWFwIGRpZmZlc > nMgZnJvbSBzZXJ2ZXI*&p_li=&p_topview=1 Servers limit the amount of bandwidth used to DL maps so as not to disrupt the game for players already logged on.... Why you're having the problem you describe is a mystery to me.... If you DL a map from my server it should work on my server... People change the names of maps, removing the beta versions for example, which cause problems going from server to server.... >Hello Peter, > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >> VhcmNoX25sJnBfcGFnZT0xJnBfc2VhcmNoX3RleHQ9bWFwIGRpZmZlc >> nMgZnJvbSBzZXJ2ZXI*&p_li=&p_topview=1 "By our efforts we have lit a fire as well; a fire in the minds of men. It warms those who feel its power. It burns those who fight its progress. And one day this untamed fire of freedom will reach the darkest corners of our world." I think the only one in your rotation I might not have working now is dm_rats_living.bsp, but don't know for sure as it didn't cycle to it while I was in a while ago. It really is an odd thing to download the full map from a server and then can't play because it's a different version, and it's the same map. dm_bathroom.bsp was downloaded from your server, and it didn't work. So I deleted the .bsp and put the one in I got from filefront but with the .ain graph from your server. It worked. I don't know why the one I downloaded from your server didn't, date is the same, byte count the same. I even tried killing TrojanHunterGuard and ZAP and AVG7, just going through the LinkSys BEFSR41 router when downloading the map. Didn't help. Same thing with 'bathroom'. Well, I'm gonna go eat, then get back in and see if the Living Room comes up in rotation :) McG. > Servers limit the amount of bandwidth used to DL maps so as not to > disrupt the game for players already logged on.... Why you're having [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > of freedom will reach the darkest corners of > our world." Why? How much upwidth have you got? I've been getting truly shite pings from your server. (Not that its stopped me playing...) Of course, the Atlantic is part of the problem... Civilian_Target > Servers limit the amount of bandwidth used to DL maps so as not to > disrupt the game for players already logged on.... Why you're having [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > of freedom will reach the darkest corners of > our world." It's a 1500/500 DSL line... >Why? How much upwidth have you got? I've been getting truly shite pings >from your server. (Not that its stopped me playing...) [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] >> of freedom will reach the darkest corners of >> our world." "By our efforts we have lit a fire as well; a fire in the minds of men. It warms those who feel its power. It burns those who fight its progress. And one day this untamed fire of freedom will reach the darkest corners of our world." Heh - I have a meg. How much of a PC do you need for a HL2 server? Civilian_Target > It's a 1500/500 DSL line... > [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > of freedom will reach the darkest corners of > our world." Thank ya'll for showing up for the bash today... rat and I had a good time... That's the last one I'll offer to host... Ya don't need much... I use a 2 gig chip with 512 MB ram... Nothing else matters for the server... You could probably use a slower CPU than that.... I ran the HL server with an 800.... Didn't run any better with the 2 gig.... >Heh - I have a meg. How much of a PC do you need for a HL2 server? > [quoted text clipped - 73 lines] >> of freedom will reach the darkest corners of >> our world." "By our efforts we have lit a fire as well; a fire in the minds of men. It warms those who feel its power. It burns those who fight its progress. And one day this untamed fire of freedom will reach the darkest corners of our world." > Thank ya'll for showing up for the bash today... rat and I had a good > time... That's the last one I'll offer to host... Gah! I completely forgot about the bash! Today is a bank holiday so I headed down to the pub yesterday evening, completely forgetting that there may have been a bash... Civilian_Target > Thank ya'll for showing up for the bash today... rat and I had a good > time... That's the last one I'll offer to host... I think you'll find that any old regs have all been bitched and pimped by their new World of Warcraft MMORPG. Any conversations I've had with them have not been anything HL2\HL2DM\CS:S related. They are lost to us now. :-\ With enough warning I can get a DM server on our dedicated server box on a cable 10M\1M connection. I got a pretty good in with the cable guy as it's mostly my parts in the server I built. :-) I'd need to get the maps list and downloads to the server. I was going to try and get to the bash but since I didn't read my newsgroups on the weekend I missed all the talk. Shoot me an email below and I can send you my real one if you want to organize another. J  SignatureJethro[AGHL] aka Phat_Pinger Reply Email: jethro86 (at) gmail (dot) com >> Thank ya'll for showing up for the bash today... rat and I had a good >> time... That's the last one I'll offer to host... [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > J I got all the maps in his rotation now. still don't know for sure why they were corrupted dl'ing from the server...two weren't, three were. I DID try to get in....but didn't have that one map yet. Got it later. :( You mighta hit the nail on the head too. Most of the old regs that used to bash are into WoW now and not even gonna sneak out for an HL2DM bash fer ol times sake. And me a noob to em :o\ But hey, if there's another, I'm in. McG. In the Server finder, his maps would show up to 2000 for latency, but when I got in the maps proper, I was the lowest pinger of the bunch, usually from 38-79. McG. > Why? How much upwidth have you got? I've been getting truly shite > pings from your server. (Not that its stopped me playing...) [quoted text clipped - 62 lines] >> of freedom will reach the darkest corners of >> our world." Hi :-) I have read about this before, there various reasons for this problem Someone had a problem with portforwarding (www.portforward.com) It can also be a problem with the custom map itself Eg to get the reflective stuff all nice an dandy you place point entities (called env_cubemap) in the map And you need to run a command "buildcubemaps" in game before distributing the map If you rename the map after you have run this command your into deep sh.t and the only solution is to throw the file into the dustbin (mi) My best bet is to register on the VERC network forums and start a thread in SourceSDK http://www.chatbear.com/board.plm?a=boardlisting&b=4986&v=flatold A couple of Valve employees is hanging out in this forum and if we (the community) can document problems/bugs in the source engine a fix is usually provided within a few weeks Btw Google Groups is working very well :-) Btw came to think of it Clearing the download folders on the server can sometimes fix the problem Folderlist: ..\half-life 2 deathmatch\hl2mp\DownloadLists ..\half-life 2 deathmatch\hl2mp\Downloads HTH > Btw came to think of it > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > HTH ah, but I'm not the server :) McG. I know Talk with the server admin, it's not dangerous :-) > Btw came to think of it > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > HTH Right, it didn't matter about the client end :) But that would have given everyone a corrupt map wouldn't it? McG. > Hi :-) > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Btw Google Groups is working very well :-) Glad google is working for ya :) It's provided me with a forum info overload ;) The issue is already being kicked around in the Steam and Verc forums. There are no clearly definitive answers to this issue yet. I'd already done the port forwarding thing for my stuff, and actually, Steam does a good job of that by itself. I've tried several different things, and they all work but for different maps! Honestly, this thing with a map not running on the server I just got it from is just *wrong*. That's a Valve thing, and they'll fix it eventually. I know someone is already on the issue, but you know they don't talk to the public about that stuff. very likely there will be a tiny Steam update to the games (it's the worst in CS:S right now) and it will simply be fixed. McG. > Glad google is working for ya :) > It's provided me with a forum info > overload ;) Only problem is that you manually must copy text to quote (forgot that) GG has changed a little within the past few months (IIRC) You have the main page with the 10 newest articles and a right section with 10 old but active articles In OE I needed to scroll up and down in the list just to find some crazy crossposting I might miss a lot of stuff, but at least I don't get frustrated By time I even might consider replacing OE with something else Though I like OE as I can hold my private email accounts (gmail/hotmail) with the various NG's within the same program :-) >> Glad google is working for ya :) >> It's provided me with a forum info [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > :-) Yep, that's the one major disadvantage to Agent. Only one account :( McG. >Yep, that's the one major disadvantage to Agent. Only one account :( The next version is supposed to be getting multiple account support, although I don't use it for mail, only for Usenet. SignatureAndrew, contact via interpleb.blogspot.com Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards, please don't top post. Trim replies to quote only relevant text. Check groups.google.com before asking an obvious question. >> Yep, that's the one major disadvantage to Agent. Only one account :( > > The next version is supposed to be getting multiple account support, > although I don't use it for mail, only for Usenet. Yeah, but I have 4 different NG accounts now. I don't want to give any of them up. So I use Agent for all the big stuff and binary ng's. I'm looking forward to the new version. McG. > Yeah, but I have 4 different NG accounts now. Only four? I am connected 6 different newsservers atm Some of them will discarted in the near future though >Yeah, but I have 4 different NG accounts now. I don't want to give any >of them up. So I use Agent for all the big stuff and binary ng's. I'm >looking forward to the new version. I can't for the life of me see why you use OE for text groups when Agent is light years ahead, but whatever floats your boat :-) SignatureAndrew, contact via interpleb.blogspot.com Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards, please don't top post. Trim replies to quote only relevant text. Check groups.google.com before asking an obvious question. >> Yeah, but I have 4 different NG accounts now. I don't want to give >> any of them up. So I use Agent for all the big stuff and binary >> ng's. I'm looking forward to the new version. > > I can't for the life of me see why you use OE for text groups when > Agent is light years ahead, but whatever floats your boat :-) Because those are the ones I have multiple accounts with :) And I *refuse* to do binaries with OE. It's just too crap for that. McG. >>>Yeah, but I have 4 different NG accounts now. I don't want to give >>>any of them up. So I use Agent for all the big stuff and binary [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > *refuse* to do binaries with OE. It's just too crap for that. > McG. Had a look at Thunderbird? Worth checking out. SignatureI mean, you've been around a bit, you know, like, you've, uh... You've 'done it'... What do you mean? Well, I mean like,... you've SLEPT, with a lady... Yes... What's it like? >>>> Yeah, but I have 4 different NG accounts now. I don't want to give >>>> any of them up. So I use Agent for all the big stuff and binary [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Had a look at Thunderbird? Worth checking out. Ok, I have the dl, will get around to installing it... McG. >>>Yep, that's the one major disadvantage to Agent. Only one account :( >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > looking forward to the new version. > McG. Have you tried Thunderbird? Just like the old Nutscrape news group\email reader. Built by the Mozilla crowd. SignatureJethro[AGHL] aka Phat_Pinger Reply Email: jethro86 (at) gmail (dot) com >>>> Yep, that's the one major disadvantage to Agent. Only one account >>>> :( [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > group\email reader. > Built by the Mozilla crowd. I got it. Like OE better tho for email. I like Agent a LOT for all the binary ng's. McG. >>>>>Yep, that's the one major disadvantage to Agent. Only one account >>>>>:( [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > binary ng's. > McG. Well then run all 3. :-) I use OE for email only, use thunderbird for email and newsgroups and have used Agent for binaries. I'm sure you have enough space\processing power to run another app. :-) SignatureJethro[AGHL] aka Phat_Pinger Reply Email: jethro86 (at) gmail (dot) com >>>>>> Yep, that's the one major disadvantage to Agent. Only one >>>>>> account :( [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > I'm sure you have enough space\processing power to run another app. > :-) Well yeah...and the ram to run it in ;) McG. > I use OE for email only, use thunderbird for email and newsgroups and > have used Agent for binaries. > I'm sure you have enough space\processing power to run another app. :-) Hiya Jethro - hope you dont mind me poking my nose in. Using Outlook for mail and Thunderbird for NG's. I like TB but it does keep forgetting my sign-in details and asking me for them (not at start-up but during use) so I've also recently tried the google beta and (last night) Agent. I know Agent needs a lot of tweaking (and I'm not sure I want to bother - horrible looking user interface) but you have me intrigued - you use it for binaries? On first look binaries is what is putting me off more than the interface. First I have to double-click to download each message and then launch each binary in another program - slow as hell and not the way I like working - do you have some settings that help you in this? Can you help me out? As so many rave about the program I'd like to give it a chance. Ta. SignatureIt's a bit of a jump isn't it? I mean, er, chartered accountancy to lion taming in one go. You don't think it might be better if you worked your way toward lion taming, say, via banking... >> I use OE for email only, use thunderbird for email and newsgroups and >> have used Agent for binaries. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > As so many rave about the program I'd like to give it a chance. Ta. In Agent, max the message list screen, then go thru and select then 'delete' all you don't want. When you got it where you have just what you want, CTRL A to select all, then DOWNLOAD. I hope you'd picked a good location for all downloaded bodies. I just use D:\NEW and sort later. With images I weed thru with PSP. You could use iRfanview or whatever. Good way to collect images, movies, music. There will be some that Agent can't automatically join, you have to select the parts then Join manually. Most of the time, Agent does this well. There is a lot to tweak and set up in Agent. But once you do, it's very good. I have yet to find anything that handles the binaries better (in the way I like). McG. Nah, ya don't have to do that.... Just sort them the way you want, hold down the CTL key, left click on the ones you want to keep, right click and hit save all attachments... You can then launch them with the rocket in the tool bar or move them to another folder... >>> I use OE for email only, use thunderbird for email and newsgroups and >>> have used Agent for binaries. [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >the way I like). >McG. "By our efforts we have lit a fire as well; a fire in the minds of men. It warms those who feel its power. It burns those who fight its progress. And one day this untamed fire of freedom will reach the darkest corners of our world." > Nah, ya don't have to do that.... Just sort them the way you want, > hold down the CTL key, left click on the ones you want to keep, right [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >>the way I like). >>McG. Thanks both. I'll take a look tonight. SignatureIt's a bit of a jump isn't it? I mean, er, chartered accountancy to lion taming in one go. You don't think it might be better if you worked your way toward lion taming, say, via banking... <helpful stuff snipped> > Thanks both. I'll take a look tonight. Ya what they said. :-) Binaries are hard to do in newsgroups as they get all split up into sections to make an RAR file which is the piece of the larger download. From the rare binaires I've gotten from newsgroup, Agent automatically will show the parts in groups and a right click download will grab all the pieces together. Much cleaner wasy to go as McG and CF will attest too. SignatureJethro[AGHL] aka Phat_Pinger Reply Email: jethro86 (at) gmail (dot) com > <helpful stuff snipped> > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > the pieces together. > Much cleaner wasy to go as McG and CF will attest too. Didn't get chance tonight - pub was calling - have to play the weekend - probably for the best seeing all the options there is to play with :-) SignatureIt's a bit of a jump isn't it? I mean, er, chartered accountancy to lion taming in one go. You don't think it might be better if you worked your way toward lion taming, say, via banking... > Btw Google Groups is working very well :-) I found a free newsgroup which you can also post too. news.sisna.com Seems to capture all the messages. SignatureJethro[AGHL] aka Phat_Pinger Reply Email: jethro86 (at) gmail (dot) com Thats just because you have downloaded a version of a map that is probably old (maybe on a different server?).. It is the map makers fault for not putting version numbers in the map name I suppose. All you have to do is find the name of the map that is causing the problem, delete it in your steam folder, and then go back to the server and download it! Hope that helps, : ) > OKAY! Steam is *NOT* a reliable means of keeping the damn game up to > date. > McG. > Thats just because you have downloaded a version of a map that is > probably old (maybe on a different server?).. It is the map makers [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> to date. >> McG. I did that. About 15 times for 4 maps. This was discovered on CF's server with the Rats maps, of which one of the 4 worked. I find it also happens on several other servers I tried. Yes, I deleted all files with the map name, .BSP, .AIN, .CACHE It takes several minutes to DL a map from the server, and a few seconds to DL maps from FileFront. Yet some maps worked and others didn't from FileFront. Yet, I still got better results using a ton of downloaded files from FileFront. IF you do use the server to dl a fresh map, then why would the game still say the versions are different? McG. > > Thats just because you have downloaded a version of a map that is > > probably old (maybe on a different server?).. It is the map makers [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > still say the versions are different? > McG. oh... lol steam sucks. heh. Still, I can't say i've had that problem however. Well, not to that extent anyways. Maybe there are several different versions of rats by different people? It is a popular map. Just a thought, but a guess as well. Don't understand McG's problem.. There are 9 happy troops on the server now kickin' a.s... >Still, I can't say i've had that problem however. Well, not to that extent >anyways. Maybe there are several different versions of rats by different >people? It is a popular map. Just a thought, but a guess as well. "By our efforts we have lit a fire as well; a fire in the minds of men. It warms those who feel its power. It burns those who fight its progress. And one day this untamed fire of freedom will reach the darkest corners of our world." > Don't understand McG's problem.. There are 9 happy troops on the > server now kickin' a.s... I know... I was in there for a while... hunger won though, hadda eat :) Now to go have another look! McG. >> Still, I can't say i've had that problem however. Well, not to that >> extent anyways. Maybe there are several different versions of rats [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > of freedom will reach the darkest corners of > our world." >>> Thats just because you have downloaded a version of a map that is >>> probably old (maybe on a different server?).. It is the map makers [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > different people? It is a popular map. Just a thought, but a guess as > well. Steam, game client, game server, what EVER it is causing this. The whole surprising point is that a map won't run that I JUST got from that server. And it didn't happen with just the rats maps or CF's server. It's a thing that's also being talked about in a few forums, and it's not being addressed by Valve or VERC, and it has no definitive answer. Yet. It will though :) McG. > It takes several minutes to DL a map > from the server, and a few seconds to DL > maps from FileFront Setting bandwidth usage limits automatically? Server admin has the option to set references to another (fast) download location, like a ftp-site etc > IF you do use the server to dl a fresh map, > then why would the game still say the versions > are different? Beats me, I got two maps from the server, both worked right out of the box But with a ping ~ 600 on the server it's not close to being fun as you're not able to fight back just a little Back in the old days IIRC you were able to join server overseas, or? |
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