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Game Forum / Action Games / Half Life / September 2003half life patch
Hello all, Please correct me if I'm wrong, I "think" I heard someone say that there was another patch (newer than 1.1.1.0) released. Is it true, and if so where can it be found as I've searched (FilePlanet and Google) and couldn't find it? TIA Not unless you are using Steam. And Steam will provide you with any *new* patches, which is really the whole point. You should'nt need to Google any longer. HTH > Hello all, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > TIA Thx for the reply Lefty, I'll keep using Google until they (Valve) sort out Steam as I've read a few threads that people are having problems with Steam. > Not unless you are using Steam. > And Steam will provide you with any *new* patches, which is really the whole [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > > > TIA Right, but you understand your game *should* continue to work OK without the new patch. My understanding is that there will be no more patches released for HL or multiplayer MODS, and once WON stops working and Steam is the authentication server, then Half-Life multiplayer will *only* exist through Steam players and their servers, and all patching will be done that way, and only that way. Can anyone else confirm or deny? > Thx for the reply Lefty, I'll keep using Google until they (Valve) sort out > Steam as I've read a few threads that people are having problems with Steam. > Right, but you understand your game *should* continue to work OK > without the new patch. > My understanding is that there will be no more patches released for > HL or multiplayer MODS, With the exception of CS 1.6 which strangely isn't a forced upgrade. Is it a steam thing? > and once WON stops working and Steam is the > authentication server, then Half-Life multiplayer will *only* exist > through Steam players and their servers, and all patching will be > done that way, and only that way. > > Can anyone else confirm or deny?  SignatureTrent Curry > Thx for the reply Lefty, I'll keep using Google until they (Valve) > sort out Steam as I've read a few threads that people are having [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >>> >>> TIA I've located the HL 1.1.1.0 patch several places. I'd already dl'd it (it's 84 megs on the hd) but was wondering if Valve/Sierra was pulling it or tightening up the reigns with Steam on the scene now. So far it's independantly downloadable still. McG. > Not unless you are using Steam. > And Steam will provide you with any *new* patches, which is really [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> >> TIA Where does one get Steam? SignatureTrent Curry http://www.steampowered.com/index.html HTH "Trent Curry" <tcurrey@no.no.i.said.no> wrote > > Where does one get Steam? > Where does one get Steam? Try to boil some water. *pahpah dumpah!* > *pahpah dumpah!* An interesting variation - the onomatopaeic I use is *bdum tish* SignatureWild "I say I say, My dog has no nose..." Style24_7 > > *pahpah dumpah!* > > > An interesting variation - the onomatopaeic I use is *bdum tish* It's one of the lesser known Goldberg Varitions. > > > *pahpah dumpah!* > > > > > An interesting variation - the onomatopaeic I use is *bdum tish* > > It's one of the lesser known Goldberg Varitions. If you don't mind, I'll steal yours from now on, by the way. > If you don't mind, I'll steal yours from now on, by the way. Quite alright, simply forward my usual fee to my agent, M. Goat Esq. Signature"It is a sad commentary on the state of the empire, but as father always said, "The world needs ditch diggers almost as much as it needs the nobility." He was such an inclusive progressive soul." Lord Martin-Hoyle III >another patch (newer than 1.1.1.0) released. Is it true, and if so where can There's a 1.1.2.0 patch, but it's only available through Steam, and it's not clear what it does, but it hardly seems worthwhile, as Steam is still in Alpha phase... SignatureWilliam Smith w<underscore>smith@compusmiths.com ComputerSmiths Consulting, Inc. www.compusmiths.com Erm, Steam came out of *beta* over a week ago. http://www.steampowered.com/index.html http://www.steampowered.com/news.htm HTH "William P.N. Smith smith@compusmiths.com>" <w<underscore> wrote but it hardly seems worthwhile, as Steam > is still in Alpha phase... > Erm, Steam came out of *beta* over a week ago. Still in Alpha - as it is not finished yet - Peter > > Erm, Steam came out of *beta* over a week ago. > > > Still in Alpha - as it is not finished yet "Alpha" does not have any relationship to whether a project is "unfinished" or not .. alpha is the testing stage at which the developers do not know what the outcomes of the tests will be (early stages of development.. where the results are wildly unpredictable) .. they're well past this stage, and know about all the outcomes & bugs. officially, it is out of beta (The second testing stage where the outcomes are known/predictable), and has been for a few weeks... All this means is that they have completed the testing phase and have released it to the masses... Yes.. its still got bugs.. but anything which is ever released as a final version always comes up with new bugs which weren't discovered in the testing. -- Ben Cottrell AKA Bench "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." - Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 >Erm, Steam came out of *beta* over a week ago. Well, it kinda depends on how you #define alpha and beta. IMHO, a Beta release is "We've found all the bugs we can on our own and all the bugs the small group of alpha testers were able to find for us, have fixed them all and done the regression testing, and now we're opening it up to a larger group to see if they can find anything we missed." Either the problems people are seeing are a result of server resource limitations and they really had no idea how it would scale up, or they let the masses have it before they worked out all the bugs. You decide, I'll consider it in Alpha till the complaints here drop to nearly zero. SignatureWilliam Smith w<underscore>smith@compusmiths.com ComputerSmiths Consulting, Inc. www.compusmiths.com Really? That's news to me, but I'm a green as a pine tree. Every MOD (and other software) I've ever seen developed was released typically to a small group in "Alpha" stages for initial testing (sometimes not even complete, but in portions for initial responses). After this results in a semi-polished product, it is released within the gaming community in "Beta" stages released for the purpose of bug finding on as many peoples' different machines as possible. Only work on different computer configurations will really bring out the glitches. Once a sufficient number of these bugs are dealt with at the developer's discretion, then an "official" release is sent to the masses. This is where we are with Steam, buggy (still) or not, IMO. HTH > >Erm, Steam came out of *beta* over a week ago. > > Well, it kinda depends on how you #define alpha and beta. > ... Once a sufficient number of these bugs are dealt with at > the developer's discretion, then an "official" release is sent to the > masses. This is where we are with Steam, buggy (still) or not, IMO. Yep, I know Btw - do you happen to know how many years steam has been in development? I think its about one and half year ago I got into this damn HL addiction Even then people talked about steam in newsgroup and wondered if Valve were moving away from the gaming business - Peter Well, I'm not too sure just when it was initially concieved. My main memory of it is that Counter-Strike was chugging along happily with some really good third party anti-cheat software keeping it all in check. All of a sudden, Valve announced that those programs would (soon) no longer function with any Valve software and that Valve would be implementing their own. Steam is a big part of that software originally announced to replace third party anti-cheat software such as Cheating Death, Paladin and others. I do know that Valve was publicly stating an intent to implement it's own anti-cheat measures as early as October of 2001. http://csnation.counter-strike.net/comments.php?id=3864 (regarding CS v1.4 patch) The above link is from very early last year. Here's another; http://www.gamespy.com/gdc2002/poweredbysteam/ HTH > > ... Once a sufficient number of these bugs are dealt with at > > the developer's discretion, then an "official" release is sent to the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > - Peter >sufficient number of these bugs are dealt with at the developer's >discretion, then an "official" release is sent to the masses. This is where >we are with Steam, buggy (still) or not, IMO. >"William P.N. Smith smith@compusmiths.com>" <w<underscore> wrote in message >> >Erm, Steam came out of *beta* over a week ago. >> >> Well, it kinda depends on how you #define alpha and beta. OK, tomato, tomato, still released before all the bugs are out... SignatureWilliam Smith w<underscore>smith@compusmiths.com ComputerSmiths Consulting, Inc. www.compusmiths.com Half-Life itself and nearly every other game ever made was released before it was 100% bug free, but that does'nt make it an "Alpha" release. HTH "William P.N. Smith smith@compusmiths.com>" <w<underscore> wrote > OK, tomato, tomato, still released before all the bugs are out... |
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