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Good grief that's a strong crowbar!!

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Patrick Michael - 18 Feb 2005 23:35 GMT
Beware the crowbar if you're a combine!!  The stunstick sucks in comparison!
Nick Hounsome - 19 Feb 2005 08:19 GMT
> Beware the crowbar if you're a combine!!  The stunstick sucks in
> comparison!

They seem similar to me.
I hate both of them - it doesn't seem right that you can take on a guy with
a machine gun and have any chance of winning unless you cosh him from
behind.
Chadwick - 19 Feb 2005 12:09 GMT
> > Beware the crowbar if you're a combine!!  The stunstick sucks in
> > comparison!
>
> They seem similar to me.
> I hate both of them - it doesn't seem right that you can take on a guy with
> a machine gun and have any chance of winning unless you cosh him from

> behind.

Eh? You're saying it's not right that a guy with a machine gun can beat
a guy with a glorified stick unless the stick bloke creeps up from
behind?
No-one - 19 Feb 2005 13:35 GMT
> Eh? You're saying it's not right that a guy with a machine gun can beat
> a guy with a glorified stick unless the stick bloke creeps up from
> behind?

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  .... and it's not right that a Combine goon can run up to a turret gun
and kick it over when Freeman has to use metal desks, steel barrels, hand
grenades, etc. to get anywhere near a turret gun.
Don F
Nick Hounsome - 20 Feb 2005 08:29 GMT
>> > Beware the crowbar if you're a combine!!  The stunstick sucks in
>> > comparison!
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> a guy with a glorified stick unless the stick bloke creeps up from
> behind?

No - I'm saying it's not right that the guy with the stick can take on the
guy with the machine gun.
It seems to me that if a machine gunner and a stick guy stand toe to toe and
slug it out the stick guy wins and even if they start at each other from a
distance the stick guy still has a pretty good chance if he dodges because
the long range accuracy of the MG is poor and the MG guy will probably have
to reload which is fatal.

The problem is that taking a couple of hits with MG bullets doesn't either
slow you down or spoil your running jumping hitting or aiming. I know this
is a general problem with this sort of game but the sticks show it up more
than most weapons.
DaNewsreader - 21 Feb 2005 07:25 GMT
> The problem is that taking a couple of hits with MG bullets doesn't either
> slow you down or spoil your running jumping hitting or aiming. I know this
> is a general problem with this sort of game but the sticks show it up more
> than most weapons.

Ahhh, yes.  But don't forget Dr. Freeman is wearing a hi-tech super-duper
battery-powered suit.
Paul Fedorenko - 22 Feb 2005 21:11 GMT
> No - I'm saying it's not right that the guy with the stick can take on the
> guy with the machine gun.

Take heart in the fact that if you charged a guy wielding an M16 while armed
with nothing but a crowbar in real life, you'd probably be dead long before
you reached him.  Does this senario make a fun gaming situation, though?
Nick Hounsome - 25 Feb 2005 11:10 GMT
>> No - I'm saying it's not right that the guy with the stick can take on
>> the guy with the machine gun.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> before you reached him.  Does this senario make a fun gaming situation,
> though?

It encourages people to run at you dodging and jumping like rabbits. I don't
think that this makes for
good game play.

What is the point of ever more realistic environments if people in them
don't behave reasonably realistically?

This particular discrepancy could be partly reduced by having instant
reloads but that has its own problems.
Ben Cottrell - 25 Feb 2005 13:58 GMT
>>Take heart in the fact that if you charged a guy wielding an M16 while
>>armed with nothing but a crowbar in real life, you'd probably be dead long
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> What is the point of ever more realistic environments if people in them
> don't behave reasonably realistically?

Because realism generally doesn't make a fun game?

eg, Most people after a single bullet from any kind of gun would be on
the floor, dead or dying.. certainly not able to just jump up and carry
on running & shooting..  they'd need a hospital pretty fast! Would that
make a fun game?

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Ben Cottrell AKA Bench

All these modern celebrities are endorsing supermarket products now...
I got a pack of sausages from Tesco the other day and there was this
picture of Anthony Worral Thompson on the front.  Below, it read 'prick
with a fork'.

Peter Lykkegaard - 25 Feb 2005 16:16 GMT
> eg, Most people after a single bullet from any kind of gun would be on the
> floor, dead or dying.. certainly not able to just jump up and carry on
> running & shooting..  they'd need a hospital pretty fast! Would that make
> a fun game?

Yeah lots of blood
Basically you join a server and you die beacuse of a glitch in the game -
anyway it'll cost $40 to try again
Yep sounds like a lot of fun - for the publisher/developer

- Peter
James A. Cooley - 19 Feb 2005 19:00 GMT
> Beware the crowbar if you're a combine!!  The stunstick sucks in
> comparison!

Crowbar is made for barnicle removal. It is a one-smack weapon on them.
 
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