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Paul Catley - 01 Dec 2004 00:07 GMT I've just been to see it this evening, and it's the best damn movie I have seen in ages! Absolutely fantastic! The animation is superb, the acting is first class, the characterisations are well drawn (particularly in the scenes of everyday home life with a superhero family), and the script is hilarious. It's clear they didn't blow all the budget on the incredible animation and forget a decent script, as is sometimes the case. High quality entertainment in every respect (*and* it's got a zero point energy device, HL2 fans!).
See it, I insist.
-- Paul
Lief - 01 Dec 2004 00:57 GMT (*and* it's got a zero point energy device, HL2 fans!).
Sold :P
Peter Lykkegaard - 01 Dec 2004 00:59 GMT > I've just been to see it this evening, and it's the best damn movie I have > seen [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > every > respect (*and* it's got a zero point energy device, HL2 fans!). The Movie of the Century - no less
- Peter
Paul Catley - 01 Dec 2004 21:23 GMT > The Movie of the Century - no less Hmmm... In a century that includes such great and varied movies as the LOTR series, Hero, Gosford Park, Gangs of New York, The Pianist, Road to Perdition, O Brother Where Art Thou, Memento, and City of God [1], I would have to say... it's way up there :)
I think The Incredibles is a strong contender for Best Picture, not just Best Animated Feature. (Anyone know whether "Ray" is in the running?)
-- Paul
[1] An incomplete personal list that you may or may not agree with.
Shawk - 01 Dec 2004 22:42 GMT >>The Movie of the Century - no less > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > [1] An incomplete personal list that you may or may not agree with. My man. Another fan of Memento. Too many folk around me don't know what I see in it. Incredibles was great. This 42yr old ex-biker actually felt a little emotional at parts.....wonderful stuff. Shaun
Paul Catley - 02 Dec 2004 01:22 GMT > My man. Another fan of Memento. Too many folk around me don't know > what I see in it. It's just fiendishly clever, which I guess puts a lot of people off. Too much concentration required. I didn't catch it until 2003.
-- Paul
Lief - 02 Dec 2004 04:33 GMT > >>The Movie of the Century - no less > > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > My man. Another fan of Memento. Too many folk around me don't know > what I see in it. Great film... :)
Neil Jones - 01 Dec 2004 23:02 GMT > Hmmm... In a century that includes such great and varied movies as the LOTR > series, Hero, Gosford Park, Gangs of New York, The Pianist, Road to > Perdition, O > Brother Where Art Thou, Memento, and City of God [1], I would have to say... > it's way up there :)
> [1] An incomplete personal list that you may or may not agree with.
:D Well, since I can't lure Bold back onto the internet even by being grovellingly apologetic, I feel safe in launching into an esoteric highbrow discussion about films with subtitles and discussions of feelings....
... nice start of a list, except for Gangs of New York and Road to Perdition (imho, of course;). Without the opening battle sequence and DD Lewis, would Gangs have even featured in your top 100? I was really frustrated at what I thought could have been an incredible film, but kept stumbling over pacing and the lack of any chemistry between the love interests. And the bits when DD Lewis wasn't onscreen. Oh, and the ending.
Hmm, Perdition.. now I think about it, it was pretty good looking, but... Tom Hanks??
How about Amores Perros, Sexy Beast, Shrek, Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon and Spirited Away (which I think is my vote for best animated film of the century)?
/me glances over his shoulder....
___ Neil AKA HighVis
Paul Catley - 02 Dec 2004 00:47 GMT > Well, since I can't lure Bold back onto the internet even by being > grovellingly apologetic, For what?
> I feel safe in launching into an esoteric > highbrow discussion about films with subtitles and discussions of > feelings.... Highbrow I can't do. Thumbs up or thumbs down, I can :)
> ... nice start of a list, except for Gangs of New York and Road to > Perdition (imho, of course;). Without the opening battle sequence and > DD Lewis, would Gangs have even featured in your top 100? No. Actually I think I put it there because I thought *you* liked it :) It had its moments, though, DDL being responsible for most of them, and the stylised art direction covering the rest ;) Some heavy editting would have improved it. I don't really get on with Leo diCaprio... I wonder how The Aviator will turn out?
> Hmm, Perdition.. now I think about it, it was pretty good looking, > but... Tom Hanks?? Yes, but I counter your Tom Hanks with my Paul Newman, and the art direction once again. (I love that stuff) (Am I using the proper term? I mean a combination of set design, costume, cinematography). At the time, it was also an excellent companion piece to Mafia ;) Thumbs up from me, anyway :)
On the art direction front, I should also perhaps have mentioned Moulin Rouge!, which didn't really work for me as a story or a musical, but was a stunning exercise in gaudy, over-the-top, fabulous set design.
> How about Amores Perros, Sexy Beast, Shrek, Crouching Tiger Hidden > Dragon and Spirited Away (which I think is my vote for best animated > film of the century)? I was going to mention Shrek, but I think it's something of a poor relation now. Sexy Beast, yeah. I completely forgot about CTHD, which would certainly be in my list (I actually just scanned the Oscar tables on IMDb for ideas, but it must have been in there - oh, it was listed in Chinese!). I haven't seen Spirited Away, and I don't know what Amores Perros is.
> /me glances over his shoulder.... Was he there?
-- Paul
Neil Jones - 03 Dec 2004 18:05 GMT > > Well, since I can't lure Bold back onto the internet even by being > > grovellingly apologetic, > > For what? He took offense at a minor jibe about films. Go figure.
> I haven't seen Spirited > Away, and I don't know what Amores Perros is. Spirited Away is, as I might have mentioned, the best animated film I've ever seen :) Written and directed by Hayao Miyazaki (ever see Princess Mononoke? same dude). An absolute cast iron must-see. Honest.
Amores perros is a mexican thriller/drama/comedy about dogfights, car crashes, love, loss and regret. Spellbinding. It's exhilarating, brutal and immensely stylish - closest I can think of is City of God crossed with Pulp Fiction.
I also think it's also on BBC4 at 11.30 tonight - hope you see this in time :D
> > /me glances over his shoulder.... > > Was he there? ... not yet...
___ Neil AKA HighVis
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Paul Catley - 03 Dec 2004 23:30 GMT > Spirited Away is, as I might have mentioned, the best animated film > I've ever seen :) Written and directed by Hayao Miyazaki (ever see > Princess Mononoke? same dude). An absolute cast iron must-see. Honest. I know about it, I just haven't seen it :)
> Amores perros is a mexican thriller/drama/comedy about dogfights, car > crashes, love, loss and regret. Spellbinding. It's exhilarating, > brutal and immensely stylish - closest I can think of is City of God > crossed with Pulp Fiction. ... whereas I had never even heard of this one. I'll look into it, thanks, but not via BBC4 as I don't have access to it.
-- Paul
Paul Catley - 03 Dec 2004 23:39 GMT > Spirited Away is, as I might have mentioned, the best animated film > I've ever seen :) Written and directed by Hayao Miyazaki (ever see [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > brutal and immensely stylish - closest I can think of is City of God > crossed with Pulp Fiction. Incidentally, Virgin Net emailed me with this list of the ten best films of 2004:
http://www.virgin.net/movies/toptens/moviesof2004.html
http://www.virgin.net/movies/toptens/moviesof2004_2.html
Discuss :)
Of the ten, I've seen six, and would rate three of them highly. There is at least one criminal omission, though...
-- Paul
Neil Jones - 05 Dec 2004 12:08 GMT > Incidentally, Virgin Net emailed me with this list of the ten best films of > 2004: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Of the ten, I've seen six, and would rate three of them highly. There is at > least one criminal omission, though... Hmmm. Seen five, and I want to see the other five anyway... but omission?
Kill Bill 2? Super Size Me? Ah, got it... I, Robot :)
I'd have said Hero, but that was a 2002 release, according to imdb...
___ Neil AKA HighVis
Paul Catley - 05 Dec 2004 19:06 GMT > Hmmm. Seen five, and I want to see the other five anyway... but > omission? > > Kill Bill 2? Super Size Me? Ah, got it... I, Robot :) > > I'd have said Hero, but that was a 2002 release, according to imdb... That was the omission I was thinking of. Since it's Virgin's list, I presume those were the ten best UK releases, and Hero only got its outing here in 2004.
I also liked 21 Grams, but that was never going to get on the list.
I would like to see the ones I missed too, particularly Fahrenheit 9/11 and The Motorcycle Diaries. I liked all six that I saw, but some better than others (The Incredibles, Shaun of the Dead, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind).
-- Paul
Marika Kusznir - 30 Dec 2004 06:51 GMT > Incidentally, Virgin Net emailed me with this list of the ten best films of > 2004: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > -- 2004 wasn't over when you posted this, but it nearly is now.
I personally ended up really really enjoying the Manchurian Candidate, much to my surprise. Even though I abhorred the original. I think I will be horrified by the saran wrap scene for a long time.
Which reminds me that my father went to buy some suet today. He asked for it at the meat counter in his supermarket, just as he has always done. The snotty butcher said they don't carry it, because everything comes prepackaged in nice little containers.
So my father says to him, you have the nerve to call yourself a butcher. Your an unpacker and an unwrapper.
mk5000
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GeoTheCat - 02 Dec 2004 01:24 GMT >How about Amores Perros, Sexy Beast, Shrek, Crouching Tiger Hidden >Dragon and Spirited Away (which I think is my vote for best animated [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Neil >AKA HighVis What did you think of Hero? Personally, I liked it better than CTHD but it's a close one. Hero's use of color and visuals tipped the scales for me because both stories were very good.
Erik
Neil Jones - 03 Dec 2004 18:09 GMT > What did you think of Hero? Personally, I liked it better than CTHD > but it's a close one. Hero's use of color and visuals tipped the > scales for me because both stories were very good. Loved it, and am looking forward even more to House of Flying Daggers. Ziyi Zhang is really making a name for herself in these crossover martial arts movies - the one thing I'd hold CTHD up for, though, is Michelle Yeoh. I think she absolutely made the movie.
___ Neil AKA HighVis
GeoTheCat - 04 Dec 2004 00:03 GMT >Loved it, and am looking forward even more to House of Flying Daggers. >Ziyi Zhang is really making a name for herself in these crossover [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Neil >AKA HighVis My friend from Malaysia says that House of Flying Daggers is very good. He keeps seeing these a good year before they hit the States and taunts me. :-) I just looked and it's opening this weekend in NYC/LA so hopefully it will get a wide release soon.
Don't know if this is your thing but I'm looking forward to seeing how Joel Schumacher does with Phantom of the Opera. I've seen the Broadway and touring shows about six times and just love it. I heard Emmy Rossum singing some of the songs and she does a good job.
Erik
Neil Jones - 01 Dec 2004 10:31 GMT > I've just been to see it this evening, and it's the best damn movie I have > seen in ages! Absolutely fantastic! The animation is superb, the acting is first > class, the characterisations are well drawn (particularly in the scenes of > everyday home life with a superhero family), and the script is hilarious.
> See it, I insist. Done it. Went with the family to a preview showing last weekend, and I agree with your review. Superb film, probably the best thing Pixar have done.
It was written and directed by the creator of 'The Iron Giant', and it shows - it's got a confidence and lightness of touch that's just a joy to watch.
Oh, and Holly Hunter steals the show :)
___ Neil AKA HighVis
Paul Catley - 01 Dec 2004 21:21 GMT > Done it. Went with the family to a preview showing last weekend, and I > agree with your review. Don't you always? ;) Not much of a review really, just encouraging people to go and see a great film.
> Superb film, probably the best thing Pixar > have done. I think so too, and with their back-catalogue, that really says something.
That reminds me... If anyone here goes to see it, *don't* sit there like a lemon at the end of the movie like I did, waiting for the mock out-takes that Pixar usually do: there aren't any! (About 10% of the cinema audience did the same). Nice credits sequence though.
> Oh, and Holly Hunter steals the show :) Excellent as she is, not to mention rather sexy (even just the vocals), I'm not sure the lead actress can steal the show. I reckon it's got to be a lesser character for show-stealing, and I would give it to Brad Bird as Edna, by a nose ahead of Jason Lee's Syndrome (who wins Best Hair). Hard to steal a show when everyone else is so good, though.
How did VisJnr enjoy it? Most animated feature films these days have jokes on two levels for the kids and adults, but I would say that the story and the humour were more squarely aimed at the grown-ups in this one. (Which may be a criticism, in a family film).
-- Paul
Neil Jones - 01 Dec 2004 22:40 GMT > That reminds me... If anyone here goes to see it, *don't* sit there like a > lemon at the end of the movie like I did, waiting for the mock out-takes that Pixar > usually do: there aren't any! (About 10% of the cinema audience did the > same). Too late :(
> How did VisJnr enjoy it? Most animated feature films these days have jokes on > two levels for the kids and adults, but I would say that the story and the > humour were more squarely aimed at the grown-ups in this one. (Which may be a > criticism, in a family film). There was plenty for him - he loved Frozone, the scene with the doors, but mainly the three kids. Any scene with Dash in it was just AOK by him. Obviously he didn't get the fifties references, but the action, timing, movement and wit were more than enough to have him insisting on another viewing. Oh, if I have to...
___ Neil AKA HighVis
"No capes!"
Peter Lykkegaard - 01 Dec 2004 23:16 GMT > (...) Oh, if I have to... Go for it, you might "never" get such a chance again Kids grow up you know :-)
- Peter
Paul Catley - 02 Dec 2004 01:04 GMT > There was plenty for him - he loved Frozone, the scene with the doors, > but mainly the three kids. Any scene with Dash in it was just AOK by > him. Obviously he didn't get the fifties references, but the action, > timing, movement and wit were more than enough to have him insisting > on another viewing. Oh, if I have to... My friends want to see it with their 5 and 3 year olds. I told them I think they are too young for it, but apparently it's unavoidable because the merchandise is everywhere.
I liked Frozone's skating action, and Dash's delight with his own abilities once he was allowed to use them (e.g. the running on water scene, very deftly done, with just a slight expression getting a big laugh).
-- Paul
"Hey! No force fields!"
Ben Cottrell - 02 Dec 2004 01:57 GMT > My friends want to see it with their 5 and 3 year olds. I told them I think > they are too young for it You really should find older friends then Paul ;-)
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Paul Catley - 03 Dec 2004 23:31 GMT >> My friends want to see it with their 5 and 3 year olds. I told them >> I think they are too young for it > > You really should find older friends then Paul ;-) They're only 43, they might find it too intense :)
-- Paul
Asnivor - 01 Dec 2004 12:22 GMT Yup. I thought it was amazing. Always a big fan of Jason Lee anyway, and I thought he was suitably anoying as the bad guy :) Excellent. And the costume designer had me on the floor :D
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