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Game Forum / Action Games / Half Life / November 2004It kicks a.s but...
Serious questions - Okay, with the gravity gun you can lift a barrel full of flamable liquid and throw it about a hundred yards. The barrel probably weighs 250 pounds or for those of you who are British, about as much as a chubby american. Freeman is a tall scientist. I'm guessing he can't weigh more than 180 pounds and he can lift and throw barrels and I beams all day long with his G gun. How come he doesn't throw out his back? How come the recoil from the G gun doesn't send him flying in the other direction about 150 yards since he's lighter than what he's throwing? QUESTIONS THAT ARE A WASTE OF TIME - How come it looks more like a magnet gun with a blaster than a g gun? Shouldn't Gordon be able to aim at the ground and levitate himself? Or pull himself up onto a high place? How come ALL the flamable barrels explode? You'd think most of the time the sparks wouldn't hit it just right and most of the time the fire would have to burn a long time to ignite the other barrels or those people would have all killed themselves every time they tossed a cigarette away. Why didn't they give you a mobile crane you could drive around in and operate? How come I can't shoot my allies? How come I can't blast a hole in a wall? How come when I replay a map the same thing happens? How come I'm so gay? > How come I can't shoot my allies? Even though you can't shoot your friends, on some levels you can kill them by blasting dumpsters with your choice of weapons until the dumpsters fly up in the air and land on them. ____________________ www.frankpanucci.com Quoth The Raven "Fragment Pantooter <LoosenBall@Desilu.com>" in fXdqd.4111$lv6.300@trnddc03 >> How come I can't shoot my allies? > > Even though you can't shoot your friends, on some levels you can kill > them by blasting dumpsters with your choice of weapons until the > dumpsters fly up in the air and land on them. and you can use the gg to throw manhacks and red barrels at npc's  SignatureTake out the _CURSEING to reply to me Can't you read? The score demands "con amore," and what are you doing? You are playing it like married men! - Arturo Toscanini (1867-1957) > Serious questions - Okay, with the gravity gun you can lift a barrel full of > flamable liquid and throw it about a hundred yards. The barrel probably > weighs 250 pounds They're standard 55-gallon drums, a gallon of liquid weighs 8 lbs, so- 55 x 8 = 440 lbs, plus about 30 lbs for the weight of the steel barrel itself, for a total of roughly 470 lbs. > or for those of you who are British, about as much as a > chubby american. Or several, in this case. > Freeman is a tall scientist. I'm guessing he can't weigh > more than 180 pounds and he can lift and throw barrels and I beams all day > long with his G gun. How come he doesn't throw out his back? How come the > recoil from the G gun doesn't send him flying in the other direction about > 150 yards since he's lighter than what he's throwing? Because it's a *gravity* gun. It nullifies the weight of whatever it has picked up, while he's holding it. It also apparently produces no recoil, when it fires an object off. I'm sure somebody better versed in this hazy theoretical (sci- fi) subject can give you more details :-) > QUESTIONS THAT ARE A WASTE OF TIME - How come it looks more like a magnet > gun with a blaster than a g gun? Shouldn't Gordon be able to aim at the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > killed themselves every time they tossed a cigarette away. Why didn't they > give you a mobile crane you could drive around in and operate? Just because :-) -Marshall >> Serious questions - Okay, with the gravity gun you can lift a barrel >> full of flamable liquid and throw it about a hundred yards. The [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > Just because :-) > -Marshall It creates a field throughout the mass of the object you've picked up. Nulls the effect of gravity on that particular mass. In the field, it has no weight. There are rules affecting its use we simply haven't figured out yet too. So there is why you can't pick up bodies, yourself, etc. :) McG. > It creates a field throughout the mass of the object you've picked up. > Nulls the effect of gravity on that particular mass. In the field, it has > no weight. There are rules affecting its use we simply haven't figured > out yet too. So there is why you can't pick up bodies, yourself, etc. :) > McG. If you have ever played "Psi-Ops" for the XBOX (maybe on PS2 too), there is the ability to levitate objects, and you can even "ride" the object you're levitating. That would have been great if you could do the same thing with the grav gun. >> It creates a field throughout the mass of the object you've picked >> up. Nulls the effect of gravity on that particular mass. In the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > object you're levitating. That would have been great if you could do > the same thing with the grav gun. Oh, well <puts on mock snobby look> I don't *do* 'console'.... I didn't *do* steam either ;) And if Halo2 don't come out for the pc.... then looks like I'll be getting Halo2 and the stinking little box and crap controller that comes with it :( McG. >> Serious questions - Okay, with the gravity gun you can lift a barrel full of >> flamable liquid and throw it about a hundred yards. The barrel probably [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >55 x 8 = 440 lbs, plus about 30 lbs for the weight of the steel barrel >itself, for a total of roughly 470 lbs. <snip> > -Marshall A gallon of liquid mercury may weigh more than 8 lbs. The barrels could contain a variety of things in a liquid form., each having a variable density which would make the weight of the barrels variable as well. -T- >>>Serious questions - Okay, with the gravity gun you can lift a barrel full of >>>flamable liquid and throw it about a hundred yards. The barrel probably [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > variable density which would make the weight of the barrels variable > as well. Ok, so what is the lightest liquid that you would be likely to find in a 55-gallon drum? How many pounds-per-gallon? What is the gallon- weight of gasoline? Just curious... -Marshall >Serious questions Take a deep breath and repeat after me, "it is only a game". SignatureAndrew, contact via interpleb.blogspot.com Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards, please don't top post. Trim replies to quote only relevant text. Check groups.google.com before asking an obvious question. > Take a deep breath and repeat after me, "it is only a game". Is it? Damn I would have thought otherwise - Peter > Serious questions - Okay, with the gravity gun you can lift a barrel full of > flamable liquid and throw it about a hundred yards. The barrel probably [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > recoil from the G gun doesn't send him flying in the other direction about > 150 yards since he's lighter than what he's throwing? *shrug* He can lift those without the gravity gun anyway, so the HEV suit must be helping quite a bit. > QUESTIONS THAT ARE A WASTE OF TIME - How come it looks more like a magnet > gun with a blaster than a g gun? Shouldn't Gordon be able to aim at the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > a long time to ignite the other barrels or those people would have all > killed themselves every time they tossed a cigarette away. What's amazing is how many of them there are in the oddest places :) (...) SignatureLeo Fellmann >> Serious questions - Okay, with the gravity gun you can lift a barrel >> full of flamable liquid and throw it about a hundred yards. The [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > (...) Yeah, for sure. My first bad experience with exploding barrel: There was one up under a low bridge like, with some goodies back in there. There was shallow water back there, and a red n white barrel. So, I grabbed it using E, turned with it and the screen turned red, tinnitis ringing heard, no suit yet, health was now 3. From 90+. Hmm. Touchy bistige! Me handles em wid care from then on. Wasted the goodies! McG. >> Serious questions - Okay, with the gravity gun you can lift a barrel full >> of flamable liquid and throw it about a hundred yards. The barrel [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > (...) How do we know the barrels are full? An empty barrel full of flammable fumes can be more explosive then an empty one. That would not explain why they catch fire first ,then explode though. There are also other heavy objects like the long steel tables. I guess the GG has the ability to change the mass and gravity effects on objects and convert it a certain direction so its not the gun that is shooting the object, but rather the objects gravity is directed away from the gun and magnified. Also why are the plastic recycle barrels bullet proof? They can shield you against just about anything. I guess its like the Star Wars movies. They are meant to be fun and exciting to watch and not realistic. The space craft sounds are great when soaring through space, but really you cant hear sounds in space. >>>Serious questions - Okay, with the gravity gun you can lift a barrel full >>>of flamable liquid and throw it about a hundred yards. The barrel [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >>*shrug* He can lift those without the gravity gun anyway, so the HEV suit >>must be helping quite a bit. >>(...) > How do we know the barrels are full? An empty barrel full of flammable fumes > can be more explosive then an empty one. That would not explain why they > catch fire first ,then explode though. Chuck an explosive barrel into some water and see if it sinks. 'Course, whatever liquid is in it might be lighter then water. > There are also other heavy objects like the long steel tables. > > I guess the GG has the ability to change the mass and gravity effects on > objects and convert it a certain direction so its not the gun that is > shooting the object, but rather the objects gravity is directed away from > the gun and magnified. The object doesn't have gravity itself, it is an external force. From a physics point of view the GG is bizarre, but what the hell, if they have teleporters... It might nullify the gravitational force by creating an opposing force listing the object up, which would make it into a portable lift really :) > Also why are the plastic recycle barrels bullet proof? They can shield you > against just about anything. They might just be made of very thick plastic :) > I guess its like the Star Wars movies. They are meant to be fun and exciting > to watch and not realistic. The space craft sounds are great when soaring > through space, but really you cant hear sounds in space. 2001 got it right though. SignatureLeo Fellmann Fuel barrels - Never leak. You never see liquid pouring out bullet holes or powder. Those of you who played Postal 2 know the joys of dribbling gasoline and then setting it on fire lets say when a high school marching band comes by. Gravity gun - If it negates the effect of gravity on the object, the object should rotate some while being held. It's much more of a magnet effect in HL2. Punching it a hundred yards suggests a force acting on the barrel or negative gravity, but then that doesn't explain the arching flight which shows that earth's gravity is fully acting on the barrel. So it's just a temporay gravity interruption with a burst of anti gravity. I can't wait to get to the spider thing's effect on space when they fire their gun. Seems like if you can warp space, you could do a little more damage than blow up a car. >>>>Serious questions - Okay, with the gravity gun you can lift a barrel >>>>full of flamable liquid and throw it about a hundred yards. The barrel [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > 2001 got it right though. > >>>Serious questions - Okay, with the gravity gun you can lift a barrel full > >>>of flamable liquid and throw it about a hundred yards. The barrel [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > -- > Leo Fellmann Maybe the GG does not remove gravity, but removes the *inertia* from mass. If there is no inertia, there is no force required to accelerate an object of any mass. But then again, what is mass if there is not inertia....? ah well.. not really important... it's just a game :) > Serious questions - Okay, with the gravity gun you can lift a barrel > full of flamable liquid and throw it about a hundred yards. The barrel [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > him flying in the other direction about 150 yards since he's lighter > than what he's throwing? The gravity gun doesn't have any recoil. I thought about what you were saying too, then I realized that if a gun is gonna pick up objects from far away, it's unrealistic enough that whatever magic makes it work would also be able to account for any potential recoil. > QUESTIONS THAT ARE A WASTE OF TIME - How come it looks more like a > magnet gun with a blaster than a g gun? What exactly does a gravity gun look like? I haven't run across one in real life ... if you have, let me know. Signature~ Cyde Weys ~ Sing me that sweet headcrab elegy. |
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