>> Still stutters both ways for me.. In some cases worse.
>
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> Isn't it fair to say that your Half Life 2 just stutters badly or
> terribly what ever you do to it?
I think what he means is: either way it stutters worse than before. Same here.
Is that really all they altered? Was the variable included before?
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Ben Cottrell - 26 Nov 2004 02:40 GMT
>>>Still stutters both ways for me.. In some cases worse.
>>
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> I think what he means is: either way it stutters worse than before. Same here.
> Is that really all they altered? Was the variable included before?
I think the variable (and the bit of code attached to it) is new.. the
variable is there presumably for people who dont like the patch and want
to play it as it was before :-) (A good idea since the option not to
install the patch doesnt exist..)

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Matthias Puch - 26 Nov 2004 11:42 GMT
>I think the variable (and the bit of code attached to it) is new..
> the variable is there presumably for people who dont like the
>patch and want to play it as it was before :-) (A good idea
>since the option not to install the patch doesnt exist..)
Yes, it does. You can always turn the automatic installation of updates
off in the Steam properties page of every installed game/mod/whatever.
Ben Cottrell - 28 Nov 2004 23:22 GMT
>>I think the variable (and the bit of code attached to it) is new..
>> the variable is there presumably for people who dont like the
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> Yes, it does. You can always turn the automatic installation of updates
> off in the Steam properties page of every installed game/mod/whatever.
However, if Steam knows there is an update available, it won't permit
you to play the game without installing the update. this is done
deliberately because Steam is supposed to ensure that everyone always
plays with the latest version

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Paul Catley - 29 Nov 2004 00:16 GMT
> However, if Steam knows there is an update available, it won't permit
> you to play the game without installing the update. this is done
> deliberately because Steam is supposed to ensure that everyone always
> plays with the latest version
Is that true of HL2, or just CS:S?
If the former, it renders the option completely pointless.
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Ben Cottrell - 30 Nov 2004 20:48 GMT
>>However, if Steam knows there is an update available, it won't permit
>>you to play the game without installing the update. this is done
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>
> If the former, it renders the option completely pointless.
I think it's true for all Steam games (HL2 included). But of course,
steam will only know theres' an update available if you actually allow
it to login online. If you only ever run it offline, then it will never
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MikeC - 26 Nov 2004 04:17 GMT
>>> Still stutters both ways for me.. In some cases worse.
>>
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> here.
> Is that really all they altered? Was the variable included before?
I patched and I notice no difference whatsoever. I feel fortunate that I'm
not one of the ones whose framerate got screwed. Honestly, its really not
possible that Valve could have missed this bug. This is one of the worst
examples of shoddy game production I've ever seen.
McGrandpa - 26 Nov 2004 21:01 GMT
>>> Still stutters both ways for me.. In some cases worse.
>>
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> Same here. Is that really all they altered? Was the variable
> included before?
Guys, read this HL2 Tweak Guide 2nd article down. It's like 10 pages,
but a good read and he does talk about the stuttering problems and some
things HE knows can help it. Can't hurt, right?
McG.
http://www.tweakguides.com/
The Other Guy. - 27 Nov 2004 00:08 GMT
If HL2 was updated DID nothing for me stutter wise still crap, what
did steam do with 5 years of programming this game ?
>>>> Still stutters both ways for me.. In some cases worse.
>>>
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>McG.
>http://www.tweakguides.com/
> Isn't it fair to say that your Half Life 2 just stutters badly or terribly
> what ever you do to it?
Not really. It doesn't stutter at all on my computer.
Civilian_Target
McGrandpa - 26 Nov 2004 21:04 GMT
>> Isn't it fair to say that your Half Life 2 just stutters badly or
>> terribly what ever you do to it?
>
> Not really. It doesn't stutter at all on my computer.
>
> Civilian_Target
I have only a very brief stutter occasionally when it loads in a new
area. It's gone in about a full second. I've tried a couple of the
simple tweaks listed in the article here http://www.tweakguides.com/ and
haven't had time to play it to see if there was any change. I heard
turkey calling! ;)
McG.
Luke Curtis - 27 Nov 2004 08:07 GMT
>> Isn't it fair to say that your Half Life 2 just stutters badly or terribly
>> what ever you do to it?
>
>Not really. It doesn't stutter at all on my computer.
>
>Civilian_Target
Same here.
this is the system I am rumnning it on:
Windows XP Home
Athlon 2500+ XP
MSI K7N2 Delta (NForce 2 chipset)
1 gig RAM (2 x 512 meg DDR2700 Samsung sticks)
Leadtek A350tdh FX5900 running at 400/700
Maxtor 7Y250P0 250GB Ultra ATA/133 7200RPM 8meg buffer
(primary master)
Western Digital Caviar WD600BB 60GB Ultra ATA/100, 7200 RPM, 2MB
(Primary Slave)
NEC ND2510a (8x8x32)
(Secondary Master)
AOpen CD-RW CDW4852 (48x24x52) ATA-2
(Secondary slave)
ITE Raid ATA-133 Controller IT8212
Matashita DVD-RAM SW-9581 (2x) ATA-4
(on raid card secondary master)
Belkin F5U508EA 3xUSB2 & 2xFirewire PCI card
running with all settings at maximum the framerate (according to the
Counterstrike benchmark) is 76 FPS.
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