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Anders Simonsson - 26 Mar 2004 12:53 GMT
The good: I just picked up a copy of Far Cry.

http://hem.bredband.net/b273622/far_cwy.jpg

The bad: I wont have time to play (or even install it) before I have
to leave for work. :(

Can't wait to try out the level editor, though.

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Strider - 26 Mar 2004 16:31 GMT
Anders Simonsson proclaimed...

> The good: I just picked up a copy of Far Cry.
>
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>
> Can't wait to try out the level editor, though.

Post a picture of yourself again. Then we can have the ugly too.

:)

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Neil Jones - 26 Mar 2004 18:47 GMT
> The good: I just picked up a copy of Far Cry.
>
> http://hem.bredband.net/b273622/far_cwy.jpg
>
> The bad: I wont have time to play (or even install it) before I have
> to leave for work. :(

You might not be able to when you get back either - mine won't start
due to "CD/DVD emulation software has been detected. Please disable all
etc etc and restart the game"

According to Ubisoft UK, that means any DVD copying programme must be
uninstalled. Bloody cheek.

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Anders Simonsson - 26 Mar 2004 21:14 GMT
>You might not be able to when you get back either - mine won't start
>due to "CD/DVD emulation software has been detected. Please disable all
>etc etc and restart the game"
>
>According to Ubisoft UK, that means any DVD copying programme must be
>uninstalled. Bloody cheek.

I seem to be okay, it installed without any problems and plays fine. I
had a quick go at it and it looks gorgeous. I don't have any serious
DVD copying software installed though, just DVD Decrypter and Daemon
Tools.

Out of curiosity, what DVD copying software do you have installed?
I've been looking for something that's easy to use.

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Neil Jones - 27 Mar 2004 00:48 GMT
> Out of curiosity, what DVD copying software do you have installed?
> I've been looking for something that's easy to use.

Not that I use any of these, of course, but I hear that this
combination works well...

1. AnyDVD - removes all bothersome region coding, macrovision, etc
2. DVD Shrink ­ allows you to decide on the levels of compression for
each part of a DVD, so that you can fit it all on a single disc
3. Clone DVD - does exactly what it says on the tin, no fuss. Will take
the reduced files from (2) and write to a blank.

Alternatively
4. DVD XCopy - for when you absolutely, definitely have to have every
last second of every scene, this will split the DVD across 2 blanks.

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Sloth - 27 Mar 2004 16:57 GMT
> > Out of curiosity, what DVD copying software do you have installed?
> > I've been looking for something that's easy to use.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> 3. Clone DVD - does exactly what it says on the tin, no fuss. Will take
> the reduced files from (2) and write to a blank.

DVD Shrink and latest edition of 'Nero' (free months trial, includes DVD
burner),

DVD Shrink removes the region codes?...
Ben Cottrell - 27 Mar 2004 03:38 GMT
> You might not be able to when you get back either - mine won't start
> due to "CD/DVD emulation software has been detected. Please disable all
> etc etc and restart the game"
>
> According to Ubisoft UK, that means any DVD copying programme must be
> uninstalled. Bloody cheek.

oh that is just dumb.. and what is to stop people from making 10 copies
and then uninstalling the copying software afterwards? .. Some people
just don't "do" common sense do they? ... I'm certainly not removing my
region-free DVD program just to run farcry..  I'm not too sure if i want
to get this game now if it's gonna do dumb stuff like that :-/

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GeotheCat - 27 Mar 2004 06:25 GMT
>> You might not be able to when you get back either - mine won't start
>> due to "CD/DVD emulation software has been detected. Please disable all
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>region-free DVD program just to run farcry..  I'm not too sure if i want
>to get this game now if it's gonna do dumb stuff like that :-/

It sounds like it has SecuRom software on the discs. The bad thing is
I've seen tons of posts from people who don't even have any kind of
'copying' software and they still have problems. UT2004 is having the
same problems.
I just looked at the bottom of the box for FarCry and it has a warning
about it. It says the protection might conflict with some disc and
virtual drives. They need to find a better system. I guarantee if you
look on some 'warez' site, there are probably already copies of the
game. :-(

Erik
Skippy - 27 Mar 2004 17:20 GMT
I guarantee if you
> look on some 'warez' site, there are probably already copies of the
> game. :-(

The final release was on BitTorrent days before it was available
commercially...
Far Cry Fan  maybe - 27 Mar 2004 10:59 GMT
Just bought 2 copies today...

totally into the graphics,  reviews, gameplay, style and general aura
about the game.

However....

CD/DVD emulation software has been detected. Please disable all
CD/DVD/ emulation software and re-start the game.

Unless there is a conflict with the game ( and I really wonder what
the heck this game is doing to form a conflict ), who's to say, I
don't generate my own legitimate DVD's and copy them for my clients
regularly???

If I don't sort this out tonight, I will be returning my and my
friends 2 copies back to Harvey Norman tomorrow, getting our money
back and bagging the sh.t out of the "moral" high-ground attitude
taken by these tossing developers/publishers.

Absolutely nothing about having DVD copiers on your system or on the
box of the game... nothing in system requirements

AND!!!!!

I don't even have a f.cking DVD rom nor burner drive.. seriously, go
f.ck yourselves with that stupid attitude.

Absolutely rediculous.
Anders Simonsson - 27 Mar 2004 14:17 GMT
On 27 Mar 2004 01:59:32 -0800, farcry@capebyron.info (Far Cry Fan
maybe) wrote:

>Absolutely rediculous.

Like I said in my previous post, I don't have this problem myself. I
imagine they will sort it out in a patch, though.

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Kent_Diego - 27 Mar 2004 18:05 GMT
> However....
>
> CD/DVD emulation software has been detected. Please disable all
> CD/DVD/ emulation software and re-start the game.

Get the no CD/DVD cracked.exe from :
http://MegaGames.com and see if it fixes problem.

-Kent
Paul Catley - 27 Mar 2004 18:24 GMT
> > CD/DVD emulation software has been detected. Please disable all
> > CD/DVD/ emulation software and re-start the game.
>
> Get the no CD/DVD cracked.exe from :
> http://MegaGames.com and see if it fixes problem.

I guess that's the most annoying part of these pathetic attempts at copy
protection.  The crackers and the warez-monkeys can get past such restrictions
mere hours after a game is released, but the majority of players, who just have
the simple desire of being able to play a game out of the box without hindrance,
are left floundering and frustrated.

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Richard & Sarah Struthers - 27 Mar 2004 18:54 GMT
I've just installed with Virtual CD (the German program)

Works fine straight out of the box. So yet another protection protocol that
irritates the hell out of some people but doesn't stop copying.

Stroods

> > > CD/DVD emulation software has been detected. Please disable all
> > > CD/DVD/ emulation software and re-start the game.
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> --
> Paul
Lithurge - 28 Mar 2004 12:00 GMT
> I've just installed with Virtual CD (the German program)
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Stroods

Only thing I've got installed is Nero, which if it's a
problem causing app, hasn't caused one for me.

What I have noticed from reading various gaming groups is
that copy protection seems to be more of a problem on US
releases than European ones, classic example was Broken Sword
3 all the people compaining about the Star Force protection
were people with US copies, which suggests to me US
publishers are more paranoid.
Mike Kohary - 27 Mar 2004 21:14 GMT
> Just bought 2 copies today...
>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> back and bagging the sh.t out of the "moral" high-ground attitude
> taken by these tossing developers/publishers.

Absolutely.  I'm a professional photographer and videographer, and I sure
hope the game doesn't conflict with any of the software installed on my
computer that I use for those purposes - all of it completely legitimate and
used for legitimate purposes, and none of which I would consider
uninstalling and doing without.  This is a completely unreasonable response
to the very real problem of piracy.  I'm all for companies trying to protect
their copyrights, but not when it intrudes on the fair use of legitimate
consumers.

Mike
Ben Cottrell - 28 Mar 2004 01:56 GMT
> Absolutely.  I'm a professional photographer and videographer, and I sure
> hope the game doesn't conflict with any of the software installed on my
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> their copyrights, but not when it intrudes on the fair use of legitimate
> consumers.

This may sound like a bit of a preach .. well i guess it is.. but it's
not intended to start off "Another steam flamewar" .. but I think this
highlights one of the areas where Steam brings us something positive...
 (yes, it doesnt solve the problem of people playing with offline mode,
but it sure makes it difficult to pirate and play online with steam).

Steam protects the gamer's CD Key by completely eliminating the need for
the CD key once the gamer has registered online with the SteamID
system...  but also, they can update the platform any time they like,
which makes it very difficult for someone to write a hack or crack that
doesn't become obsolete within a very short period of time. (The same
sort of system can also be used to stop cheaters in their tracks too)

Hopefully this means that valve won't be worrying too much about CD
copiers when they release HL2 :)

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Paul Catley - 28 Mar 2004 02:10 GMT
> Hopefully this means that valve won't be worrying too much about CD
> copiers when they release HL2 :)

Valve might not, but Sierra might take some convincing.  They will still be
interested in preventing CD/DVD piracy.

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Paul
Strider - 28 Mar 2004 10:09 GMT
Paul Catley proclaimed...

> Valve might not, but Sierra might take some convincing.  They will still be
> interested in preventing CD/DVD piracy.

Well my FarCry was despatched yesterday. I sure hope this problem
doesn't occur on my machine but I suspect it will.

I'm running Nero and Daemon Tools, so it's possible.

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Anders Simonsson - 28 Mar 2004 12:15 GMT
>I'm running Nero and Daemon Tools, so it's possible.

I have those installed too, along with Easy CD, NeroVision, DVD
Decrypter and DVD Shrink. No problems at all.

The game itself is very, very good... I would say 'awesome' or
'brilliant', but I'm afraid I would sound like a fanboy or something.
It has atmosphere in chunks, marvellous AI, great physics, beautiful
graphics, etc. Easily the best SP experience since HL.

I actually bought my DVD drive just for this (and UT2K4) and it was
well worth it. :D

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Strider - 28 Mar 2004 12:51 GMT
Anders Simonsson proclaimed...

> I have those installed too, along with Easy CD, NeroVision, DVD
> Decrypter and DVD Shrink. No problems at all.

Glad to hear it.

> The game itself is very, very good... I would say 'awesome' or
> 'brilliant', but I'm afraid I would sound like a fanboy or something.

At times, I've felt the same way. I can't wait to play the multi player
and I'm really looking forward to the FarCry AGHL bash. You better be
there Anders!

/adopts a menacing look

> It has atmosphere in chunks, marvellous AI, great physics, beautiful
> graphics, etc. Easily the best SP experience since HL.

> I actually bought my DVD drive just for this (and UT2K4) and it was
> well worth it. :D

Huh? get with the times. I think I've had my DVD for about two years!

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Anders Simonsson - 28 Mar 2004 15:12 GMT
>At times, I've felt the same way. I can't wait to play the multi player
>and I'm really looking forward to the FarCry AGHL bash. You better be
>there Anders!

I don't really get why so many seem to look forward so much to FC
multiplayer. The official forums have been stuffed with people
complaining about how it wasn't what they expected, that it was too
simplistic, etc. For me, the attraction of FC was always the SP game.
For MP, I have UT2K4.

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Strider - 28 Mar 2004 15:52 GMT
Anders Simonsson proclaimed...

> I don't really get why so many seem to look forward so much to FC
> multiplayer.

Well the assault game (which I've looked at in a little detail) looks
superb. the character animations and general island setting kicks the
a.s off 'let's all be cyborgs' yada yada UT2004.

> The official forums have been stuffed with people
> complaining about how it wasn't what they expected, that it was too
> simplistic, etc.

Well I come here and listen to views. But the opinion of the forums I'm
not much interested in.

> For me, the attraction of FC was always the SP game.

Me too, initially. But having played the single player and the demo
quite a lot I can see the potential for a good multiplayer.

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Cannon Fodder - 28 Mar 2004 16:09 GMT
Have no fear... Just got an E-mail from OneSneakyMouse and he is busy
working on a Rats map for Far Cry.... :)

>>At times, I've felt the same way. I can't wait to play the multi player
>>and I'm really looking forward to the FarCry AGHL bash. You better be
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
>"Beware the past. Fight the present. Fear the future."

     
     "Remember, when the aliens return to reap
      their harvest they'll eat the fat folks first.."
Strider - 28 Mar 2004 16:17 GMT
Cannon Fodder proclaimed...

> Have no fear... Just got an E-mail from OneSneakyMouse and he is busy
> working on a Rats map for Far Cry.... :)

Oh god.

You've got the most stunning outside visuals I've seen for a FPS and you
want to be used for a kitchen!

bah, be away with ya!

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Anders Simonsson - 28 Mar 2004 17:03 GMT
>Have no fear... Just got an E-mail from OneSneakyMouse and he is busy
>working on a Rats map for Far Cry.... :)

Lol, could be interesting. :D

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Neil Jones - 29 Mar 2004 00:45 GMT
> >At times, I've felt the same way. I can't wait to play the multi player
> >and I'm really looking forward to the FarCry AGHL bash. You better be
> >there Anders!
>
> I don't really get why so many seem to look forward so much to FC
> multiplayer.

Lemme see.... fantastic outdoor settings, over a Kilometre draw
distance, sniper rifle, tons of other realistic weapons, great
possibilities for sneakage... nah, can't think, Anders. ;)

> For me, the attraction of FC was always the SP game.
> For MP, I have UT2K4.

Nah... shooting rabbits with fireworks, even when you know the rabbits,
doesn't appeal as much as taking them down from 800 metres away with a
rifle...  :D

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Anders Simonsson - 29 Mar 2004 04:28 GMT
>Lemme see.... fantastic outdoor settings, over a Kilometre draw
>distance, sniper rifle, tons of other realistic weapons, great
>possibilities for sneakage... nah, can't think, Anders. ;)

Hm, okay... When you put it like that! :)

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Paul Catley - 28 Mar 2004 19:23 GMT
> It has atmosphere in chunks,

Aww, bugger it, you used the magic word.  No, not "chunks": "atmosphere".  I was
hoping to fend this off until HL2, but expensive disruptive upgrade here I
come...

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Strider - 28 Mar 2004 20:42 GMT
Paul Catley proclaimed...

> Aww, bugger it, you used the magic word.  No, not "chunks": "atmosphere".  I was
> hoping to fend this off until HL2, but expensive disruptive upgrade here I
> come...

It's a beautiful game. And boy, do I love driving the jeep.

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Anders Simonsson - 28 Mar 2004 21:04 GMT
>It's a beautiful game. And boy, do I love driving the jeep.

BTW, did you know that vehicles can toggle between machine gun and
rocket launcher? Just press X to switch. I killed myself by shooting a
rocket into a nearby tree... :)

I think boats have the same feature.

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Cannon Fodder - 28 Mar 2004 21:18 GMT
Man, this sucks... I've checked out every retailer and my two fav
local mail order places and no one has the game... Anyone in the USA
been able to purchase it locally??? If so where???

     
     "Remember, when the aliens return to reap
      their harvest they'll eat the fat folks first.."
Fishy_stink_ho - 29 Mar 2004 04:39 GMT
I got it at a Mall Store (not EB, they are fired) in the DC suburbs in Md.
> Man, this sucks... I've checked out every retailer and my two fav
> local mail order places and no one has the game... Anyone in the USA
> been able to purchase it locally??? If so where???
>
>       "Remember, when the aliens return to reap
>        their harvest they'll eat the fat folks first.."
Strider - 28 Mar 2004 21:36 GMT
Anders Simonsson proclaimed...

> BTW, did you know that vehicles can toggle between machine gun and
> rocket launcher? Just press X to switch. I killed myself by shooting a
> rocket into a nearby tree... :)

Yes I did! :) but I foolishly forgot that the machine gun I picked up is
also a grenade launcher and helped me through the nasty bit with lots of
the little bastards.

> I think boats have the same feature.

Yes they do. I can't wait to use them on a real person!

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GeotheCat - 28 Mar 2004 23:41 GMT
>Anders Simonsson proclaimed...
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>Yes they do. I can't wait to use them on a real person!

There is definately something satisfying about taking down a chopper
with it. :-) Bodies flying out of it as it falls is pretty cool too.

Erik
Civilian_Target - 28 Mar 2004 14:42 GMT
>Absolutely.  I'm a professional photographer and videographer, and I sure
>hope the game doesn't conflict with any of the software installed on my
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>their copyrights, but not when it intrudes on the fair use of legitimate
>consumers.

Hear hear! I just tried to have a game of Worms World Party using the
legitimate CD I paid for and it told me to "Insert the game CD into
the CD drive"

Really? And if its already there? Ironicly when I copied it to my hard
disk as an ISO and ran a Laserlock decrypter tool on it (which was
made illegal in Ireland on January 1st thanks to the EUCD) it worked
perfectly. And I own the goddamn game!

Civilian_Target
trimble bracegirdle - 27 Mar 2004 05:51 GMT
In your pic...the box... its Ben Affleck ..is not it ???
Do we have to be Ben Affleck (afeck??) all the time its takes to play this
game??
Im playing the demo..u dont get to see yourself ....now I know I been Ben
Afflex
I fell very odd..
Trimble..
 
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