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Game Forum / Action Games / Half Life / March 2004OK. almost April now and where the.......
Hell is HL2? June 1st. > Hell is HL2? Which year ? > June 1st. > > > Hell is HL2? Limnophile proclaimed... > Which year ? /me looks around to see if he's in aghl-cs  Signaturewww.stri.tk "We have two ears and one mouth so we may listen more and talk less." - Epictetus. >June 1st. What year? SignatureWilliam Smith ComputerSmiths Consulting, Inc. www.compusmiths.com 2004 > >June 1st. > > What year? >2004 Heh, good one. 8*) ROTFCMEO SignatureWilliam Smith ComputerSmiths Consulting, Inc. www.compusmiths.com > Hell is HL2? Erik Johnsson announced a few months ago that they were planning to finish the game in the summmer... Presumably if thats still true, then we'll see it at the end of summer/beginning of autumn. SignatureBen Cottrell AKA Bench "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." - Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 HL2 lol It's just a myth. Sort of like the Loch Ness Monster :). Many people claim it exists but science has yet to prove it. > Hell is HL2? > HL2 lol > > It's just a myth. Eihh? > Sort of like the Loch Ness Monster :). You talk nicely about Nessie, you hear! > Many people claim it exists > but science has yet to prove it. Oh well, it takes a true believer to know one Btw, got ut2k4 from the local gamepusher today - 6 CD's??? Now consider loading that amount of data through steam..... Ok, ok, only 6gig (approx) it ain't 6 DVD's after all - Peter > Btw, got ut2k4 from the local gamepusher today - 6 CD's??? > Now consider loading that amount of data through steam..... > Ok, ok, only 6gig (approx) it ain't 6 DVD's after all Surely 6 CDs can't be more than 4GB :-) I think valve are planning to have the option to install it in "chunks" ... so instead of waiting for all 4GB (or whatever) to download.. you could download it 1 chapter at a time or something.. then assuming you don't rush through and complete it in the fastest possible time, (maybe take a day or more to play each chapter)... then the next chapter(s) should easily have finished downloading by the time you need them. SignatureBen Cottrell AKA Bench "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." - Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 >Surely 6 CDs can't be more than 4GB :-) My UT2K4 install is 5, 24 gb and that's without any downloaded stuff like models, maps, etc, and before the big 'content' patch that's usually released. Far Cry is 3 gb. MGS2 was a bit over 2 gb, if I remember correctly. A couple of more games and I'll have to get an extra hard drive. ----- Anders "Roshin" Simonsson http://hemsida.semera.se/xav2557 "Beware the past. Fight the present. Fear the future." >>Surely 6 CDs can't be more than 4GB :-) > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >A couple of more games and I'll have to get an extra hard drive. Yeah! Hear hear, game install sizes are obsecene. I'd complain except I have 240Gb of HD space and therefore don't feel I have the right to do so. Civilian_Target > Yeah! Hear hear, game install sizes are obsecene. I'd complain except > I have 240Gb of HD space and therefore don't feel I have the right to > do so. Obscene, but reasonable when you consider the content games are delivering these days. It's generally not bloat causing the size - it's data, and as games get more and more graphically sophisticated, it's only going to go up. Hard drives are so cheap these days that it's not unreasonable to expect consumers to upgrade. It's often an ignored part of upgrading a computer - graphics cards, memory and CPUs get the main attention - but it can be important for those that could use it. Mike >> Yeah! Hear hear, game install sizes are obsecene. I'd complain except >> I have 240Gb of HD space and therefore don't feel I have the right to [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >graphics cards, memory and CPUs get the main attention - but it can be >important for those that could use it. Yeah, but there's no reason to have to install 3 gigs of textures that could just as easily be loaded off CD at loading. They should at least make that an option. Civilian_Target >Yeah, but there's no reason to have to install 3 gigs of textures that >could just as easily be loaded off CD at loading. They should at least >make that an option. Many games do similar things, but load times become very long. Also, loading textures off CD when required would result in one-second pauses whenever you needed a new texture... SignatureWilliam Smith ComputerSmiths Consulting, Inc. www.compusmiths.com >>Yeah, but there's no reason to have to install 3 gigs of textures that >>could just as easily be loaded off CD at loading. They should at least [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >loading textures off CD when required would result in one-second >pauses whenever you needed a new texture... Not if they were copied to your RAM/HD during the loading time. Obviously loading times would become long, but at least you'd have the option to save the hard disk space, which is important to a lot of people. Civilian_Target >>>Yeah, but there's no reason to have to install 3 gigs of textures that >>>could just as easily be loaded off CD at loading. >>Many games do similar things, but load times become very long. >Not if they were copied to your RAM/HD during the loading time. Well, unless you've got 3G of RAM, it's going to have to use a hard disk cache of about 3G, so it's either going to take forever to start the game or give you an "out of hard disk space for texture cache" error. Unless you've got plenty of hard drive space, and then you don't have the problem in the first place. Apparently some UT2k4 folks have saves a lot of texture cache space by enabling hard drive compression in the OS (on NTFS). I still maintain that the $3 worth of hard disk space you save isn't worth all the support issues... SignatureWilliam Smith ComputerSmiths Consulting, Inc. www.compusmiths.com >Apparently some UT2k4 folks have saves a lot of texture cache space by >enabling hard drive compression in the OS (on NTFS). > >I still maintain that the $3 worth of hard disk space you save isn't >worth all the support issues... Having lived on 15 gigs, trust me, it would be a nice option. 240gig is just vast now, so needless to say I'll be doing a full install. Civilian_Target >>>Yeah, but there's no reason to have to install 3 gigs of textures that >>>could just as easily be loaded off CD at loading. They should at least [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >option to save the hard disk space, which is important to a lot of >people. I guess what I'm saying (and I don't mean this to sound cold or unsympathetic) is that storage these days is so cheap, that I think consideration for storage space is becoming one of those "lowest common denominator" things that game designers actually want to avoid. There comes a point where everything becomes obsolete, and the old 40GB hard drive is rapidly approaching that point, if it hasn't already. :) Mike -- "Worry is like interest paid | Mike Kohary in advance on a debt that | never comes due." | http://www.kohary.com Karma Photography http://www.kohary.com/photography >>> Yeah! Hear hear, game install sizes are obsecene. I'd complain except >>> I have 240Gb of HD space and therefore don't feel I have the right to [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >could just as easily be loaded off CD at loading. They should at least >make that an option. I wouldn't object to them including the option, but I'd personally never use it, because load times would be obscenely long. Mike -- "Worry is like interest paid | Mike Kohary in advance on a debt that | never comes due." | http://www.kohary.com Karma Photography http://www.kohary.com/photography >My UT2K4 install is 5, 24 gb and that's without any downloaded stuff Yeah, when you cost out 5 or 10 gig of disk space (assuming you are buying in bulk, ie 100 to 200 gig drive) it's somewhere between $5 and $10, so not a huge deal. SignatureWilliam Smith ComputerSmiths Consulting, Inc. www.compusmiths.com Ben Cottrell proclaimed... > Surely 6 CDs can't be more than 4GB :-) > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > chapter(s) should easily have finished downloading by the time you need > them. Well bittorrent uses that system and haven't ValvE have just recruited the guy who wrote it, Bram Cohen? Signaturewww.stri.tk "We have two ears and one mouth so we may listen more and talk less." - Epictetus. >>I think valve are planning to have the option to install it in "chunks" >>... so instead of waiting for all 4GB (or whatever) to download.. you [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Well bittorrent uses that system and haven't ValvE have just recruited > the guy who wrote it, Bram Cohen? I've never actually used BitTorrent so i didn't realise that :) .. but i guess it makes sense. although presumably it only does that with files that are normally used sequentially (Like audio and video).. I don't think you can have a usable chunk of a .zip file without having the rest to go with it :-) SignatureBen Cottrell AKA Bench "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." - Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 Ben Cottrell proclaimed... > I've never actually used BitTorrent so i didn't realise that :) .. but i > guess it makes sense. although presumably it only does that with files > that are normally used sequentially (Like audio and video).. I don't > think you can have a usable chunk of a .zip file without having the rest > to go with it :-) No, you can do that with anything. I believe it's a feature of winzip, winRAR or winace. Signaturewww.stri.tk "We have two ears and one mouth so we may listen more and talk less." - Epictetus. > > Sort of like the Loch Ness Monster :). > > You talk nicely about Nessie, you hear! Are you two close? > Hell is HL2? Subject: Pre-Release Date Change for Half-Life 2 Dear Customer, You have signed up to receive release date changes for: Half-Life 2 http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product_id=645118&affid=1 Old Release Date - 7/1/2004 New Release Date - 9/1/2004 Thank you for visiting GameStop.com! The World's Largest Selection of Gaming Products! NOTE: The product release date is the best estimate as to when the product will become available. These dates are subject to change at anytime. GameStop.com is in constant communication with product vendors to provide you with the most accurate release dates possible. >http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product_id=645118&affid=1 /* E3 Best of Show! */ What year was that again? 8*| SignatureWilliam Smith ComputerSmiths Consulting, Inc. www.compusmiths.com >>http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product_id=645118&affid=1 > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > What year was that again? 8*| What confuses me is why they sent him an email claiming that the release date was changed to 9th of january 2004. SignatureBen Cottrell AKA Bench "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." - Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 >What confuses me is why they sent him an email claiming that the release >date was changed to 9th of january 2004. Oh, well, bring from the wrong side of the pond I can see your confusion. 8*) OTOH, it's at least as valid as any of the other release dates they've had in the last year. 8*| SignatureWilliam Smith ComputerSmiths Consulting, Inc. www.compusmiths.com |
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