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Dod, steam and cheating.

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Mike Barnard - 25 Jan 2004 22:12 GMT
Hi all.

I've just 'upgraded' to steam.  And I've just done a search for steam
DoD servers that have the secure only option set.  Not one out of 270
servers examined was listed as anti cheat enabled.  Not one.

<fx - exasberrated look>
WHY?
</fx>

How often do I hear (read) players in games saying so and so is
hacking or so and so is aimbotting.  Often it's sour grapes I know,
but not always.  And not one server seems to be set up to use the anti
cheat tech Valve have put in place.  I don't understand it.  Anyone
else have a thought?  Any admins read this group and care to explain
their reasoning?
Ben Cottrell - 26 Jan 2004 00:52 GMT
> Hi all.
>
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> else have a thought?  Any admins read this group and care to explain
> their reasoning?

Not sure.. what browser were you using to view servers? Because if I
view CS servers in ASE then a very large number of servers come up as
using VAC...  perhaps they use Cheating Death instead?  (cheating death
is incompatible with VAC)... or maybe your filter isn't working right :)

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kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills
and listening to repetitive electronic music." - Kristian Wilson,
Nintendo, Inc, 1989
Nick Robins - 26 Jan 2004 18:05 GMT
> Hi all.
>
> I've just 'upgraded' to steam.  And I've just done a search for steam
> DoD servers that have the secure only option set.  Not one out of 270
> servers examined was listed as anti cheat enabled.  Not one.

There was a new VAC module released a few days ago (23-24/01/04), of
course this means all the servers out there using VAC have to download
the new module, putting alot of preasure on the 'secure servers'. If a
gameserver can't contact the secure server(s) it will drop out of
secure mode and carry on, it will attempt to download the module on
each subsequent map-change until it succeeds. It's not particularly
unusual for a server to spend a map in "secure 0" mode after a VAC
update.

Sometimes of course the secure servers fold under the load and then
/none/ of the gameservers are VAC'd. In all fairness I have to say that
I haven't read of (or noticed) any such downtime recently.

Nick

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Mike Barnard - 26 Jan 2004 20:59 GMT
>Hi all.
>
>I've just 'upgraded' to steam.  And I've just done a search for steam
>DoD servers that have the secure only option set.  Not one out of 270
>servers examined was listed as anti cheat enabled.  Not one.

Hi.  Follow up.

I think it was zone alarm stopping ALL searches.  My fault for
shouting too quickly.

Oops...

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