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bob from oz - 02 Aug 2008 10:12 GMT guys! you're worrying the sh.t out of me! i'm sitting here, as usual, hanging on every word from your GTA IV adventures, but you've all gone quiet!? what's *wrong* with GTA IV that you're all sooo quiet? is it that you're all playing the game so much that you can't write anything here? are you sick of it already? is it really so empty? if it's the last point, then that's just sad.
bob
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Paul Heslop - 02 Aug 2008 11:40 GMT > guys! you're worrying the sh.t out of me! i'm sitting here, as usual, > hanging on every word from your GTA IV adventures, but you've all gone [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside a dog, it's too > dark to read. - Groucho Marx It always happens to me, I'll get hooked on something then suddenly it'll be something else. I fired up forza 2 the other week and now I'm hooked. I did play GTAIV very heavily though and I am sure I'll keep playing it, just some games demand a lot of attention and forza 2 is one of those.
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Paul C. - 02 Aug 2008 13:09 GMT bob from oz <zutroi67@gmail.com> wrote in news:VxVkk.106445$0O3.49079 @fe02.news.easynews.com:
> guys! you're worrying the sh.t out of me! i'm sitting here, as usual, > hanging on every word from your GTA IV adventures, but you've all gone [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > bob Check the reviews, it's an awesome game but like any game that is focused on the single player experience you eventually get your fill. The game is over 3 months old now after all, plenty of time for people to have finished it.
I still play the online component every night as for some dumb reason I can't understand I'm hooked on trying to level up my character. It's still enjoyable & still holds value for me. (despite the occassional idiot teammate who delights in blowing up your cars or crashing your copter for his small minded amusement, but that's nothing new to online gaming I suppose)
If you read the group enough you'll find that there is a certain contingent of people who were hooked on all the frills of Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas and are disappointed that some non essential things like jetpacks, planes (there are helicopters), etc are not present in GTA IV. Rockstar decided instead to move closer to the realm of realism in crafting a detailed city. It's still not flawless but I'd say it's the best approximation of a living breathing city that Rockstar has achieved thus far.
You'll simply have to see for yourself I guess. Some people aren't happy while others are. I've played all the modern incarnations of GTA and this one didn't disappoint me. Perhaps it's because I really didn't care to spend time messing around with planes, parachutes & jetpacks as they simply didn't hold my interest. I almost never replay story games save for Bioshock which I've been through probably 4-5 times now. :)
Paul Heslop - 02 Aug 2008 14:40 GMT > If you read the group enough you'll find that there is a certain > contingent of people who were hooked on all the frills of Grand Theft [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > crafting a detailed city. It's still not flawless but I'd say it's the > best approximation of a living breathing city that Rockstar has achieved While I agree with this much of the game doesn't stand up to close scrutiny. From a distance shop windows etc look fantastic but close up they look awful, while at the same time things like rusted metal and old wood can look amazing. I feel there's a lack of interesting places to explore. All these amazing but unusable buildings... not enough of them are open to use. Oh I don't know. It's that so much is promised and yet so much of it remains unfulfilled.
One little touch i would have liked to have would be that bars stay open for use without being on a date etc and restaurants actually serve you instead of you only being able to take people there on dates/friends.
It really is a glorious looking thing though and fair panting with atmosphere.
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phexitol - 03 Aug 2008 02:48 GMT Paul Heslop <paul.heslop@blueyonder.co.uk> whispered into a bullhorn:
>> If you read the group enough you'll find that there is a certain >> contingent of people who were hooked on all the frills of Grand Theft [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > It really is a glorious looking thing though and fair panting with > atmosphere. GTA IV was and is a fantastic game, in and of itself.
The main problem with GTA IV is that Rockstar's main competitor, Rockstar, set the bar too high with San Andreas. The other main problem is that we also had certain expectations that were not met. These are what make GTA IV look less than outstanding; not any real failing of the game itself.
Once they roll out the DLC, there should be quite a few more interiors to explore (I have a feeling that the PS3 will get all or most of the interiors, even if we don't get the missions themselves, since there are a few buildings around Liberty City that look like they should have interiors, but yet do not. This is not including the ones that have interiors only accessible during missions).
Paul Heslop - 03 Aug 2008 03:11 GMT > Paul Heslop <paul.heslop@blueyonder.co.uk> whispered into a bullhorn: > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > interiors, but yet do not. This is not including the ones that have > interiors only accessible during missions). I agree, I've noticed some things which have obvious detailing yet are unavailable to use. Mind you, I haven't completed the game yet so maybe I just haven't used the places yet.
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GMpartsguy - 02 Aug 2008 19:35 GMT > guys! you're worrying the sh.t out of me! i'm sitting here, as usual, > hanging on every word from your GTA IV adventures, but you've all gone [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > bob By all means, buy GTA4.
I can only echo what's been said already for the single player side. The city is a thing of beauty for the most part. Like Paul said, some of the window fronts do look cheesy up close. I'm still finding those little things and details that were added to make LC more realistic.
The city is hardly empty, but without all the "toys" we had in SA, i'm finding it tougher and tougher to find ways to interface with the city. A skate/bike park, but no bikes or skateboards. An amusement park that really isn't that amusing. An airport that gets you 4 wanted stars for attempting to explore it fully. All the fire escapes in GTA are solid now, but it seems like 1/2 or more can't be climbed for whatever reason.
Maybe some of us did get spoiled by the fluff items/odd vehicles from SA, or we're just getting uncreative in our old age. ;) I am holding back a bit on doing any cheats or Cleve style in-mission experiments until i'm done with the main storyline. Although, i couldn't myself and interupted a mission to get the Romero. ;)
I'm not disappointed with GTA4 in the least. Hopefully R* drops more than one opportunity for downloadable content. I'd like to hit the multiplayer side, but i'm not into the 13 year old mentality either. Maybe we could organize an AGGTA session some day.
Martin Ebnoether - 19 Aug 2008 22:09 GMT Hi.
> I'm not disappointed with GTA4 in the least. Hopefully R* drops more than > one opportunity for downloadable content. I'd like to hit the multiplayer > side, but i'm not into the 13 year old mentality either. Maybe we could > organize an AGGTA session some day. Oh yes, please! That would rock.
CU, Venty
Simon Poyne - 02 Aug 2008 23:02 GMT >guys! you're worrying the sh.t out of me! i'm sitting here, as usual, >hanging on every word from your GTA IV adventures, but you've all gone [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >bob I'm not complaining. I think GTA IV great! I'll admit that in some respects it is sometimes disappointing, but it's still a great game.
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bob from oz - 03 Aug 2008 13:06 GMT > I'm not complaining. I think GTA IV great! I'll admit that in some > respects it is sometimes disappointing, but it's still a great game. thanks for your replies guys. there's no way in hell that i will miss this when it's available for the PC. the only problem of course will be buying it from the USA and getting it back in to Australia without some git confiscating it. we usually buy our games from New Zealand, but they're banning games as well these days. (for those who think Australia is retarded for needing "edited/redacted" versions of these games, it's only because we don't have an "R" rating for games. some dickweed forgot to make one, so if it's not M-rated, we can't have it! D'oh!)
i'm still playing SA, and am hoping stuff like Saint's Row 2 and GTA4 will come sooner than later. my pc is soooo freaking powerful, which is useless, as there's no effing games to play!! (and no, 1st person war games bore me!)
bob
Martin Ebnoether - 19 Aug 2008 22:16 GMT Hi bob from oz.
> thanks for your replies guys. there's no way in hell that i will miss > this when it's available for the PC. the only problem of course will be [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > only because we don't have an "R" rating for games. some dickweed forgot > to make one, so if it's not M-rated, we can't have it! D'oh!) Sound like this would suck big time. Well, over here in Switzerland, I luckily have no problem buying games like GTA IV at all. They even sold Manhunt 2 for the PSP in the shops.
So, you cannot buy the game, even if you're an adult? I think even in Germany, you can buy games rated for 18+. It is just, the shops may not advertise these games anymore.
CU, Venty
bob from oz - 20 Aug 2008 15:51 GMT > Sound like this would suck big time. Well, over here in Switzerland, I > luckily have no problem buying games like GTA IV at all. They even sold > Manhunt 2 for the PSP in the shops. yeah, if the stupid politicians get off their arses and make an R rating for games, then we'd be ok. some of the game companies don't want their games rated R as they think they won't sell as many copies for whatever reason. i say bring it on.
> So, you cannot buy the game, even if you're an adult? I think even in > Germany, you can buy games rated for 18+. It is just, the shops may not > advertise these games anymore. nope. i think NZ may be changing their ratings or something, so that may suck for us Aussies. i usually buy our games from New Zealand, but not if they also sell only edited versions. it's a principle thing: i want the real game. f.ck pretenders!
me and my mates will end up buying GTA4 from the US and smuggling it back in to Australia. they may confiscate 1, but they won't get them all. it's real easy to see why people would pirate such a game if it gets this hard to legally buy something as an adult.
bob
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