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Game Forum / Action Games / Grand Theft Auto / October 2007No Wanted Level: Just Business...
What's the deal with this mission? I thought it was supposed to be a 'no stars' mission? I began the mission, then left Smoke in the car, went to the airport, got in a plane, but the minute I entered San Fierro, I had a 4 star wanted level!!! I made it to a pay n spray, got back in the car with Smoke, went downtown, then I was stuck on the back of the bike shooting ruskies... where's the 'no stars' part of this 'no stars' mission???? TIA!!! > What's the deal with this mission? I thought it was supposed to be a 'no > stars' mission? I began the mission, then left Smoke in the car, went to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > TIA!!! Maybe the high wanted level mechanism for entering locked cities overrides the no-stars aspect of the mission. >> What's the deal with this mission? I thought it was supposed to be a 'no >> stars' mission? I began the mission, then left Smoke in the car, went to [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Maybe the high wanted level mechanism for entering locked cities overrides > the no-stars aspect of the mission. Yeah, that's what's so confusing- Everything I've heard about this glitch was that you were able to enter all the cities, and the only time you'd be shot at is if you entered the Las Venturas Area 69... ??? Also, I'm playing the original PS2 version, not the PC, or PS2 Greatest Hits versions... > Also, I'm playing the original PS2 version, not the PC, or PS2 Greatest Hits > versions... Wrong mission. You want "Reuniting the Families". Notice that the military base and aircraft carrier will still fire missles at you if you get too close. >> Also, I'm playing the original PS2 version, not the PC, or PS2 Greatest >> Hits versions... > > Wrong mission. You want "Reuniting the Families". Notice that the military > base and aircraft carrier will still fire missles at you if you get too > close. Ah!!! Those sumamabitches!!!! Thanks for the info!!! > What's the deal with this mission? I thought it was supposed to be a 'no > stars' mission? I began the mission, then left Smoke in the car, went to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > TIA!!! Hi. You need to play part way through this mission to get to the no-stars part. Drive Smoke to the marker, and after the short cut-scene, clear out the Russians inside the building. Once you and Smoke get outside for the second shooting section, you are free to leave him and do whatever you want without getting stars. No pedestrians or vehicles spawn on the roads, so you will have to get to where a parked vehicle spawns. You need to get away from the shoot-out quickly as well, as Smoke continues to take damage while you are close by, and it is possible for him to be killed, which fails the mission and you lose the no-stars protection. I suppose it is possible to return and complete the mission, however whenever I have tried this, Smoke starts to lose health again and dies as soon as I get fairly close. Rob. > > What's the deal with this mission? I thought it was supposed to be a 'no > > stars' mission? I began the mission, then left Smoke in the car, went to [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Rob. When I started trying this one I found that, yes, you can go no stars directly after you have left the building, of course leaving some of the bad guys to pin down smoke. Indeed from there it becomes a no star mission, but the bad news is if you get back to smoke and get on the bike when it enters the cut scene the game locks during the bit where your bike is supposed to leave the car park. The only way to use it as a no stars is to get killed or let smoke get killed before the cut scene. As there are a few other no stars it hardly seemed worth it in the end.  SignaturePaul (We won't die of devotion) ------------------------------------------------------- Stop and Look http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/ > ...the bad news is if you get back to smoke and get on the > bike when it enters the cut scene the game locks during the bit where > your bike is supposed to leave the car park... Are you sure? That's happened to me at least twice with regular gameplay (the cutscene camera jibs down the spiral ramp to ground level, but then nothing happens). I've had several cutscene lockups like this, the most frequent is the start- or end-of-mission cutscenes at "The Four Dragons" > > ...the bad news is if you get back to smoke and get on the > > bike when it enters the cut scene the game locks during the bit where [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > (the cutscene camera jibs down the spiral ramp to ground level, but then > nothing happens). yep, that's the very place > I've had several cutscene lockups like this, the most frequent is the start- > or end-of-mission cutscenes at "The Four Dragons" I tried it a few times, back when we were all trying to find the first no stars mission and it locked every time at the same place, if you let it go into that cut scene after returning from your journey over to the other islands etc. A few of you could volunteer to try it again and prove/disprove my theory :O) SignaturePaul (We won't die of devotion) ------------------------------------------------------- Stop and Look http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/ >> > ...the bad news is if you get back to smoke and get on the >> > bike when it enters the cut scene the game locks during the bit where [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > to the other islands etc. A few of you could volunteer to try it again > and prove/disprove my theory :O) I've got a save for every mission, so I'll give it a go later on. As I said earlier, I never managed to get back before Smoke got killed in previous efforts, so it might take a few goes. Rob > >> > ...the bad news is if you get back to smoke and get on the > >> > bike when it enters the cut scene the game locks during the bit where [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Rob I think this is one of tose don't dally situations. rather like when you leave, if you mess around too close to the area smoke takes hits. SignaturePaul (We won't die of devotion) ------------------------------------------------------- Stop and Look http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/ >> > I tried it a few times, back when we were all trying to find the first >> > no stars mission and it locked every time at the same place, if you [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > I think this is one of tose don't dally situations. rather like when > you leave, if you mess around too close to the area smoke takes hits. I have now played through this mission several times, and have been able to return and complete the mission without any problem in the cut scene, or anywhere else, so it must be something specific to the ps2 version. I did make one unexpected discovery, which was repeatable. As in my previous attempts at this Smoke had got killed, I decided to help him out a bit and killed all but 1 of the Russians before leaving him. I ran off down the ramp and was about half way across the square outside the police station when the cut scene started and I appeared on the back of the bike. I assume Smoke managed to kill the last Russian to trigger it. The cut scene played through ok, and I was able to complete the mission. I was able to get this to happen again, running off in the other direction. I have no idea how far away you have to get to avoid this. Finally for this mission, near the end when Smoke tells you to shoot the gates I decided to see what would happen if you didn't. The bike breaks them anyway and the mission continues just as if you had shot them out. (I was rather hoping it would crash and throw us off, and there would be an opportunity to finish the fight on foot) Rob > >> > I tried it a few times, back when we were all trying to find the first > >> > no stars mission and it locked every time at the same place, if you [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > again, running off in the other direction. I have no idea how far away you > have to get to avoid this. I'll have to have a go on the xbox, when I can get myself to do it as I think I'm either further forward of further back than the mission on all my saves. > Finally for this mission, near the end when Smoke tells you to shoot the > gates I decided to see what would happen if you didn't. The bike breaks them [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Rob Heh, I had tried that too, only the time i did it deliberately I hadn't noticed how little life I had left and it DID explode :O) Next time i just forgot while I was trying my best to think of a way to stop it leaving me with an empty gun when I had already collected tons of stuff. SignaturePaul (We won't die of devotion) ------------------------------------------------------- Stop and Look http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/ > I've had several cutscene lockups like this, the most frequent is the > start- or end-of-mission cutscenes at "The Four Dragons" I get that too, but only at the beginning of Fender Ketchup. It freezes after the speaking, before the car drives out of the garage into the yard. I have the PC version, and the spacebar always clears it. Rob > > I've had several cutscene lockups like this, the most frequent is the > > start- or end-of-mission cutscenes at "The Four Dragons" [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Rob maybe the space bar would work in this case. Thing is I have two versions, xbox and ps2, the ps2 being the oldest version. I am not sure if I ever tried it on the xbox... sounds like I just gave myself a chore! SignaturePaul (We won't die of devotion) ------------------------------------------------------- Stop and Look http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/ > As there are a few other no stars it hardly seemed worth it in the end. Not to mention a lot earlier: "Drive Thru" probably being the best. Just don't get into Sweet's car at the start. And, unlike "Just Business", you don't have to fail the mission when you get back and everything spawns as normal. [of course, it's too late for Buckaroo, but he'll know for next time :] Signature"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." - George W. Bush [August 5th, 2004] > > As there are a few other no stars it hardly seemed worth it in the end. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > everything spawns as normal. [of course, it's too late for Buckaroo, > but he'll know for next time :] Yes, that was the one. I think we got confused a bit back then. I personally thought he meant the one where he learns to shoot. It is the best and easiest, and of course earliest time to do it. SignaturePaul (We won't die of devotion) ------------------------------------------------------- Stop and Look http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/ >> As there are a few other no stars it hardly seemed worth it in the end. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > normal. [of course, it's too late for Buckaroo, but he'll know for next > time :] I thought it was "Drive By". (The one where you have to go and kill Ballas near Glen Park, and are given a wanted level at the end so the game can teach you how to use the Pay'n'Spray) Rob > >> As there are a few other no stars it hardly seemed worth it in the end. > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Rob I think you're right, well spotted... I shall now go and hit myself with something heavy SignaturePaul (We won't die of devotion) ------------------------------------------------------- Stop and Look http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/ >>>> As there are a few other no stars it hardly seemed worth it in the end. >>> Not to mention a lot earlier: "Drive Thru" probably being the best. Just [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I think you're right, well spotted... I shall now go and hit myself > with something heavy Don't think it's a no-stars, just an automatic 2-star after killing the Ballas, if you don't already have it. "Drive Thru", on the other hand, is *DEFINITELY* a no-stars at the beginning. Signature"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." - George W. Bush [August 5th, 2004] > >> I thought it was "Drive By". (The one where you have to go and kill Ballas > >> near Glen Park, and are given a wanted level at the end so the game can [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Ballas, if you don't already have it. "Drive Thru", on the other hand, > is *DEFINITELY* a no-stars at the beginning. it's the damned names, and I haven't been playing it recently. Worse as they both start the same way. SignaturePaul (We won't die of devotion) ------------------------------------------------------- Stop and Look http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/ >>>>> As there are a few other no stars it hardly seemed worth it in the >>>>> end. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Ballas, if you don't already have it. "Drive Thru", on the other hand, is > *DEFINITELY* a no-stars at the beginning. I have just tried both these missions, and am unable to get no-stars in Drive Thru. Running down a cop got me 2 stars in Los Santos, and crossing into the locked territory got me 4 stars. On the other hand, Drive By is definitely no-stars. There are vehicles on the road but no pedestrians, and going into the locked islands doesn't get stars. Of note in Drive-by is that after the Ballas are killed and you get the automatic 2 stars, driving through the star on the other side of Glen Park reduces the wanted level to 1 (but the cops still chase as if it was 2), and driving through a second star puts the wanted level back up to 2. Rob >> Don't think it's a no-stars, just an automatic 2-star after killing the >> Ballas, if you don't already have it. "Drive Thru", on the other hand, is [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Drive Thru. Running down a cop got me 2 stars in Los Santos, and crossing > into the locked territory got me 4 stars. Strange. If you leave at the start of the Drive Thru, without getting into Sweet's car, it's always been a no-stars for me in both the PS2 and PC version. Even the naval base and Area 69 don't trigger a wanted level, both in the air and on the land. Pedestrians and vehicles all spawn as normal, too. Signature"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." - George W. Bush [August 5th, 2004] Oh, bloody Hell. Where the *BLEEP* has my head been yesterday? It *is* Drive By. Maybe it's the lack of coffee - ran out Saturday morning and won't have any more 'til tomorrow, a horrible situation for any 7-a-day person. :P Signature"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." - George W. Bush [August 5th, 2004] >> As there are a few other no stars it hardly seemed worth it in the end. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > normal. [of course, it's too late for Buckaroo, but he'll know for next > time :] Yeah, when I searched for the 'no stars' missions, I cursed myself cuz I'd already finished that mission!!! Much love to the guy who alerted me to deserting the traitor Big Smoke!!! With a device made of 13 cents and two rubber bands, I was able to get FULL PILOT SKILL while still in Los Santos!!!! Thanks again |
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