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Game Forum / Action Games / Grand Theft Auto / June 2007What Is Wrong With Me?
I still haven't finished San Andreas. I bought it for the PS2 when it came out, but couldn't get far with the gamepad. This is because my first and only other GTA game was Vice City for the PC. I beat the crap out of that game, though it took a while to do it. When I got the hang of it. But San Andreas seems much harder to me. It's not just that it's at least 3x as large, but the missions are... take the Blood Ring for instance. I remember this from VC, but I don't remember it being this damned hard. And the crap you gotta find. Only 100 packages in VC. 50 tags, 50 photos, 50 oysters, 50 horse shoes. And the oysters were the biggest bitch so far. Especially the ones in San Fierro that give you 5 stars when you go near them. I also haven't flown yet. Well, I have, but fly too far and get shot down by rockets! And it doesn't seem to be counting toward my flying skill. This is that dodo in Los Santos... maybe the PC version is fixed so you have to wait, I dunno. Anyway, I got to Catalina's missions a while back and quit. I just re-installed the game and restored my saved games (backed up on a DVD-R). I got through the Catalina missions and got into San Fierro, finally. I have all 50 tags, 30 oysters, 50 photos. What I haven't done yet--Trucker Missions, Blood Ring, that mountain bike thing (forget the name)... that Beat the Cock crap... hijacking the train... Hippy Shopper and the PCJ 500 challenge in San Fierro. I think that's it. I did 3 of the trucker missions before giving up. This game's too hard. I'm about to smash it. > This game's too hard. I'm about to smash it. Good. If you have any complaints I'm sure Rockstar will listen. Cheers, Rob  Signature.__ __ |__ |__ .|__ __ | Rob White, Half Man Half Biscuit. | / \| \ | | || ||| /__\ | robthemod@googlemail.com | \__/|__/ |_|_|| |||__\___ | Wimbledon, London, England. "Do sugar cubes have dots or is that a dice I just put in my tea?" To the world you are somebody, but to somebody you are the world. Me will crush you! Crush you to goo! > Good. If you have any complaints I'm sure Rockstar will listen. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > To the world you are somebody, but to somebody you are the world. People wanted bigger, and that's what Rockstar gave them. Now a lot of people seem to agree that SA was TOO big, somehow. Anyway, all GTA games are going to make you want to tear your hair out at some point or other. Personally, I got tired of the missions and just downloaded a 100% save from somewhere and have fun screwing around doing whatever I want with no restrictions imposed by not having finished the game. It's a great way to unwind and I can always start a new game if I ever feel like it. Some people want the challenge of beating the game. Me, I just like to f.ck around. -- Bob > ...I have all 50 tags, 30 oysters, 50 photos. What I haven't done > yet--Trucker Missions, Blood Ring, that mountain bike thing (forget the > name)... that Beat the Cock crap... hijacking the train... Hippy Shopper > and the PCJ 500 challenge in San Fierro. I think that's it. I did 3 of the > trucker missions before giving up. This game's too hard. I'm about to > smash it. Think yourself lucky - on the PC version I've just had to do 100 tags. I've currently got a savegame with all but seven of the tags (the six you do in the tags mission, and the one nearest CJ's house), all weapon skills maxed, bike skill maxed, firefighter, ambulance, burglary and taxi done, and the skate-park mission (that was hard) and Robina's mart. I've not yet been into CJ's house, to kick off the story missions. I'm wondering whether I can be bothered to do the LV oysters, the horseshoes and the snapshots before I unlock the bridges or get a no-stars mission. > I'm wondering whether I can be bothered to do the LV oysters, the horseshoes > and the snapshots before I unlock the bridges or get a no-stars mission. If memory serves there's a no-stars mission very early on. I think it might be "Drive Thru". I waited until "Just Business" to do all my collecting, as then the spray tags and numerous other things will be completed too. Cheers, Rob Signature.__ __ |__ |__ .|__ __ | Rob White, Half Man Half Biscuit. | / \| \ | | || ||| /__\ | robthemod@googlemail.com | \__/|__/ |_|_|| |||__\___ | Wimbledon, London, England. "Do sugar cubes have dots or is that a dice I just put in my tea?" To the world you are somebody, but to somebody you are the world. Yeah, 100, sorry. I did them a long time ago. I did the ambulance and firefighter, but not vigilante. I could only do it with the tank in Vice City. And I don't even know where the Rhino is, or if it can be gotten. I did the Roboi Mart, taxi, pimping, that bmx challenge. I have all weapons maxed except M4, Desert Eagle, Sub-Machine Gun or whatever the hell... the weapons you can't get yet (or if you can, I have no idea where). Just 4 altogether. No Chiliad Challenge yet. No Bloodring. No Trucker missions, except the first 2. All vehcile skills except flying are maxed. I am up to the mission "Wear Flowers In Your Wear" or whatever. > Think yourself lucky - on the PC version I've just had to do 100 tags. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > horseshoes and the snapshots before I unlock the bridges or get a no-stars > mission. > ...but not vigilante. I could only do it with the tank in Vice City. Same here - I used to do it in the FBI cheetah using a minigun. Or with the tank. I might make a few trips to LV to get a minigun and then use the police bike in SA. > ...And I don't even know where the Rhino is, or if it can be gotten. It's at the secret base, but I don't know what triggers its appearance. You also get one when you complete, or you can p*ss off the authorities enough and then steal one. I > did the Roboi Mart, taxi, pimping, that bmx challenge. Forgot about the pimping. Did that too. > I have all weapons maxed except M4, Desert Eagle, Sub-Machine Gun or > whatever the hell... the weapons you can't get yet (or if you can, I have > no idea where). Just 4 altogether. The M4 is in Los Santos airport - at the opposite end of the runway from the locked gate (it gets unlocked when you get a licence). Desert Eagle is at the southeast corner of LS, on the beach where it ends and the port begins. There's a sawn-off at the end of the rail line near the desert eagle. There's an MP5 north-west of the LS rail tunnel entrance, on top of a building in Vagos turf. >> ...but not vigilante. I could only do it with the tank in Vice City. > > Same here - I used to do it in the FBI cheetah using a minigun. Or with > the tank. I managed once with the cheetah & minigun and once with the Hunter after Cop Land. (definitely easier with the Hunter - harder to control, but most of the spawns started in the airport) > I might make a few trips to LV to get a minigun and then use the police > bike in SA. Is there a minigun you can get without the jet pack? Hint: During the bank robbery with Catalina, once the cops on bikes show up, kill Catalina to fail the mission, grab one of the bikes, and store it in a garage (Palamino Creek's closest, obviously :). It'll remain everythingproof and make Vigilante a lot easier... Signature"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." - George W. Bush [August 5th, 2004] >>> ...but not vigilante. I could only do it with the tank in Vice City. >> Same here - I used to do it in the FBI cheetah using a minigun. Or [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > after Cop Land. (definitely easier with the Hunter - harder to > control, but most of the spawns started in the airport) >> I might make a few trips to LV to get a minigun and then use the >> police bike in SA. > Is there a minigun you can get without the jet pack? I don't think you need the jet pack for any of them, but you do have to fly to to two of them. The one at the construction yard in southeast LV might be a little hard without a jet pack, but there's plenty of space on the railway bridge in San Fierro to land a heli. Even a Dodo if you're good. The minigun pickup in northeast LV is underground, so it's actually easier if you don't fly... But these are only 200 rounds each, so collecting a decent supply for vigilante is pretty hard, at least early in the game. The minigun pickup at Toreno's is 500 rounds, but that's available fairly late in the game. By the way, the biggest problem with doing Vigilante on a police bike is that sometimes the bad guys have shotguns and those do a lot of damage. And it's damage to CJ, not the bike. I've usually managed vigilante with just the police bike, lots of MP5 ammo, some M4 and a few rockets. > .... , but there's > plenty of space on the railway bridge in San Fierro to land a heli. > Even a Dodo if you're good. ... You can also base jump to it from the top of the suspension bridge pylon. There's a parachute on top and CJ can walk or drive a bike up the cable. That is also my favourite way to get aboard the carrier. > By the way, the biggest problem with doing Vigilante on a police bike > is that sometimes the bad guys have shotguns and those do a lot of > damage. And it's damage to CJ, not the bike. I've usually managed > vigilante with just the police bike, lots of MP5 ammo, some M4 and a > few rockets. Yep, - the bike is almost indestructible during vigilante. You get a vehicle health bonus for finishing each level (30% on bike / 20% off bike) and the tires are puncture proof. Those benefits actually outlives the mission but can't be stored in a garage. > Yep, - the bike is almost indestructible during vigilante. > You get a vehicle health bonus for finishing each level (30% on bike / 20% > off bike) and the tires are puncture proof. > Those benefits actually outlives the mission but can't be stored in a > garage. Despite that, I lose my vehicles *VERY* easily in SA's Vigilante, hence why I always suggest the everything proof bike. :) Signature"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." - George W. Bush [August 5th, 2004] > Despite that, I lose my vehicles *VERY* easily in SA's Vigilante, hence > why I always suggest the everything proof bike. :) When you say vehicle do you mean a police car ?? Cars are much more vulnerable than bikes, - Vigilante in a policecar is very hard to pull off. On a bike CJ takes the most of the hits, - but health and armour can be easily replenished. >> Despite that, I lose my vehicles *VERY* easily in SA's Vigilante, hence >> why I always suggest the everything proof bike. :) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > On a bike CJ takes the most of the hits, - but health and armour can be > easily replenished. No, I mean the bike - with the cops on my a.s for most of Vigilante, they do a lot of ramming. The everythingproof cop bike seems sturdier and doesn't go flying nearly as easily when there's a glancing blow. (and the fact that it doesn't take damage means that the slightest hit doesn't send its handling plummeting...) Signature"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." - George W. Bush [August 5th, 2004] > Is there a minigun you can get without the jet pack? On my last run through, I'd wait 'til "reuniting the families" (I didn't know "drive through" was no-stars) and do the photos, horseshoes and oysters. each time I'd done ten, I'd go get the two easy miniguns (LV building site and underground car park), come back to CJ's place and take out the petrol tank of Sweet's car with a pistol shot to fail the mission, save, then repeat. The worst thing about SA is there's nowhere to drop your weapons, like the golf club and airport in Vice City. So you can spend time building up an impressive arsenal then lose a chunk of it in one mission. >> Is there a minigun you can get without the jet pack? > > On my last run through, I'd wait 'til "reuniting the families" (I didn't > know "drive through" was no-stars) and do the photos, horseshoes and > oysters. ... "Drive thru" isn't the first no-stars mission, after all... > "Drive thru" isn't the first no-stars mission, after all... Turns out it's "Drive by" - doing all the oysters, snapshots & horseshoes as I type (well not actually at the same time - that would be ridiculous). >> "Drive thru" isn't the first no-stars mission, after all... > > Turns out it's "Drive by" - doing all the oysters, snapshots & > horseshoes as I type (well not actually at the same time - that would be > ridiculous). Not ridiculous at all, but that'd raise questions on what exact species were used in your conception! Oh, you're from a crossover of GTA and Surface ?-) > Not ridiculous at all, but that'd raise questions on what > exact species were used in your conception! Squid and octopi have the right to be GTA fans..... O:o) Cheers, Rob Signature.__ __ |__ |__ .|__ __ | Rob White, Half Man Half Biscuit. | / \| \ | | || ||| /__\ | robthemod@googlemail.com | \__/|__/ |_|_|| |||__\___ | Wimbledon, London, England. "Do sugar cubes have dots or is that a dice I just put in my tea?" To the world you are somebody, but to somebody you are the world. > Yeah, 100, sorry. I did them a long time ago. I did the ambulance and > firefighter, but not vigilante. I could only do it with the tank in [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > whatever the hell... the weapons you can't get yet (or if you can, I > have no idea where). You certainly can get all three of those at the beginning of the game, and not very far from CJ's house, either. I recommend checking out the weapons map from GameFAQs for details on exactly where to find them. Getting the M4 requires breaking into the airport, BTW, but that's doable as well. -- Bob > I have all weapons > maxed except M4, Desert Eagle, Sub-Machine Gun or whatever the hell... the > weapons you can't get yet (or if you can, I have no idea where). There's an M4 between the yellow ramp thingies at the west end of the Los Santos airport's runways. Desert Eagle's down in the southeast corner of Playa del Saville, behind a billboard where the beach ends as the road curves west. Depending on which SMG you mean, there's a Tec-9 on top of Sweet's house. There's a Micro SMG in the multi-storey garage north of the stadium that has a tag right at its entrance that you can get an NRG-500 (can't remember which floor) and under the bridge supports in the canal just south of your 'hood. For MP5s, there's one on top of the Jefferson Motel, on the northernmost road of Los Santos itself, on the porch of the first house west of the trailers, and at Unity Station inside the enclosure in the same lot that you do the lowrider bouncing mission to meet Caesar (I do a regular circuit of the 3 MP5 spots before and after every mission/save :). Signature"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." - George W. Bush [August 5th, 2004] |
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