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So, any verdicts on Just Cause yet?

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Class-1 - 18 Sep 2006 07:46 GMT
So, I've finally gone and bought a 360 to go with my PS2. (Up yours
Sony!)
I've got Saints Row on order, but was wondering if it's also worth
getting Just Cause.

It's a manic free-roaming next-gen free-for-all! =)

A while back me & Cleve fantasised about a cross between Tomb Raider
and GTA, set in a tropical setting. Was someone actually listening to
our fantasising or is JC just another (poor) GTA clone?
Andrew - 18 Sep 2006 09:02 GMT
>I've got Saints Row on order, but was wondering if it's also worth
>getting Just Cause.

Based on what I have seen in the demo (the full game isn't out yet),
Just Cause should be much better than Saints Row, which I have had for
2 weeks, can't get into and am selling. If Just Cause don't work out,
I will stick with GTA:SA until GTA4.
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Chris F - 18 Sep 2006 11:54 GMT
>>I've got Saints Row on order, but was wondering if it's also worth
>>getting Just Cause.
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>2 weeks, can't get into and am selling. If Just Cause don't work out,
>I will stick with GTA:SA until GTA4.

what's stopping you getting into SR, if i may ask?

just wondering cos i'm quite enjoying it, and the general consensus
seems to be that it's pretty good.
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Andrew - 18 Sep 2006 12:01 GMT
>what's stopping you getting into SR, if i may ask?

If GTA3/VC/SA hadn't been released then it would be fine, but as they
have been comparisons have to be made, and SR suffers as a result. For
me, it just doesn't have fun action, the humour (aside from a few
comments by pedestrians and car drivers when they are jacked) and a
reason to explore, which is what I do most when playing GTA games.

>just wondering cos i'm quite enjoying it, and the general consensus
>seems to be that it's pretty good.

Glad you like it, I know a lot of people do, but for me it is a poor
mans GTA. I just got Test Drive Unlimited and am enjoying that far
more than SR.
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Chris F - 18 Sep 2006 14:15 GMT
>>what's stopping you getting into SR, if i may ask?
>
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>comments by pedestrians and car drivers when they are jacked) and a
>reason to explore, which is what I do most when playing GTA games.

well yeah, it doesn't have the humour of GTA, but that doesn't detract
from it too much. at least not for me. I'm sure GTA4 will wipe the
floor with it, but it's a good game in it's own right.

>>just wondering cos i'm quite enjoying it, and the general consensus
>>seems to be that it's pretty good.
>
>Glad you like it, I know a lot of people do, but for me it is a poor
>mans GTA. I just got Test Drive Unlimited and am enjoying that far
>more than SR.

to each their own, i suppose. TDU did nothing for me, i felt the cars
handled like crap and the game was just a bit dull overall.
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Andrew - 18 Sep 2006 15:01 GMT
>to each their own, i suppose. TDU did nothing for me, i felt the cars
>handled like crap and the game was just a bit dull overall.

Turning the driving aids off helps the car handling a lot, but if it
doesn't float your boat, that won't help much.
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Chris F - 18 Sep 2006 17:21 GMT
>>to each their own, i suppose. TDU did nothing for me, i felt the cars
>>handled like crap and the game was just a bit dull overall.
>
>Turning the driving aids off helps the car handling a lot, but if it
>doesn't float your boat, that won't help much.

probably not :)

on the other hand, i've spent about 2 hours on SR today and haven't
even touched the main missions yet.

i mean it is a blatant carbon copy of GTA, it's the gaming equivalent
of a tribute band, if you ask me. it's pretty good, it feels right,
but it just isn't the real mccoy.

still a lot of fun though.
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Paul O'Neill - 19 Sep 2006 01:57 GMT
>>>to each their own, i suppose. TDU did nothing for me, i felt the cars
>>>handled like crap and the game was just a bit dull overall.
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>
> still a lot of fun though.

Do you think the makers discuss that when they're designing a game? Do they
know they're copying GTA and not talk about it, or are they convinced it's
original?
Class-1 - 19 Sep 2006 06:54 GMT
> >>>to each their own, i suppose. TDU did nothing for me, i felt the cars
> >>>handled like crap and the game was just a bit dull overall.
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> >
> > still a lot of fun though.

> Do you think the makers discuss that when they're designing a game? Do they
> know they're copying GTA and not talk about it, or are they convinced it's
> original?

They know... they know.
Picture it: c0ked-up marketing guy runs into meeting and rants "quick
guys! sales are sloppy this quarter! share prices! oh noo! we gotta get
something exactly like GTA for our console! hey i know - let's just
copy the fecker!".
"hey yea!! that guy's a genius!!" meeting adjourned. etc...

What I find curious though is that they saw the need to make a GTA
clone, despite GTA being available for the XBox...? 'splain that one.
;)

[Oh and I'm hopefully getting my copy of SR today! 'w00t!']
Chris F - 19 Sep 2006 12:33 GMT
>> >>>to each their own, i suppose. TDU did nothing for me, i felt the cars
>> >>>handled like crap and the game was just a bit dull overall.
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>clone, despite GTA being available for the XBox...? 'splain that one.
>;)

um, it's made by THQ and Volition, not Microsoft...

i'm guessing they made it to make a profit, which it seems they will
do as it's sold really well...
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Anssi Saari - 19 Sep 2006 17:59 GMT
> just wondering cos i'm quite enjoying it, and the general consensus
> seems to be that it's pretty good.

One review I read said SR seems to be meant for the kind of people who
just like to run around and cause random mayhem in GTA games. It also
said the plot is lame and the voice acting boring. Well, that's one
opinion. Certainly other reviewers seem to like it. I may have to get
a 360 and see for myself...

Crackdown also looks like an interesting game for the 360 and by the
designer of the original GTA no less.. No missions, just murder some
people any way you can with your Superman-like character. From the
previews it sounds like a cross between GTA and Hitman. Cartoon-like
graphics though.
Chris F - 19 Sep 2006 18:35 GMT
>> just wondering cos i'm quite enjoying it, and the general consensus
>> seems to be that it's pretty good.
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>opinion. Certainly other reviewers seem to like it. I may have to get
>a 360 and see for myself...

i havent found the voice acting to be that bad at all, to be honest.
it is pretty generic "gangstas in the hood" sort of fare you've seen
and heard a million times before in films, etc, but it isn't that bad.

as for the plot....well it's about recapturing/taking over the city
and thats about it really.

most of the minigames are lifted directly from GTA though, but it's
done competently enough that as a whole, the game more than stands on
its own two feet.

if GTA didn't exist, everyone would be raving about SR, but then if
GTA didn't exist, would SR exist either?

ah, now there's one for the existentialists among us ;)

>Crackdown also looks like an interesting game for the 360 and by the
>designer of the original GTA no less.. No missions, just murder some
>people any way you can with your Superman-like character. From the
>previews it sounds like a cross between GTA and Hitman. Cartoon-like
>graphics though.

yeah, it's one to keep an eye on that.
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Andrew - 19 Sep 2006 18:41 GMT
>if GTA didn't exist, everyone would be raving about SR,

Agreed.

>but then if
>GTA didn't exist, would SR exist either?

Of course it wouldn't. SR is obviously the work of developers that are
plagiarists who can't even be bothered to try and copy the latest in
the GTA series. Nice graphics, shame about the game world.
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Class-1 - 20 Sep 2006 07:08 GMT
> >if GTA didn't exist, everyone would be raving about SR,
>
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> plagiarists who can't even be bothered to try and copy the latest in
> the GTA series. Nice graphics, shame about the game world.

I doubt SR or any of the other clones would exist without GTA.
Someone would eventually have derived something off games like wow or
oblivion, or maybe off a 3D platformer, but certainly not the GTA as we
know it.

On a more annoying note - got SR yesterday, but if was b0rked during
shipping. Gah. I'm starting to think that maybe someone at R* really
doesn't want me to get it... =P
 
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