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RockStar Confirms Hot Coffee Not a Hack
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Gumbo ... - 21 Jul 2005 04:13 GMT http://www.betanews.com/article/RockStar_Confirms_Hot_Coffee_Not_a_Hack/1121884637
By Ed Oswald, BetaNews July 20, 2005, 9:17 PM
UPDATED The fight over "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas" came to a climax on Wednesday as the Parents Television Council called for a recall of the video game and a statement from the game maker seemed to confirm the Hot Coffee mod was indeed not a hack and was present within the game as BetaNews research had uncovered.
RockStar indirectly confirmed this late Monday, issuing a statement saying it was providing a patch to prevent the modification in already purchased titles and would stop selling the current version while it works on a non-modifiable version of the game. Wednesday's developments seem to confirm that the scenes depicted within the game were indeed created by the game manufacturer.
Effective immediately, the ESRB has changed the rating of the current version of the game to "AO" for adults only, and would provide stickers to retailers wishing to continue selling the current version. The updated version would retain the original "M" for mature rating. It is not immediately clear how the change would affect its availability.
Earlier Wednesday, BetaNews published research that found the chances of the modification being some kind of hack produced by someone not related with the game are slim at best, contradicting earlier statements by the game maker. Researchers were able to locate codes that open up the same scenes on both Xbox and PlayStation 2.
The discovery indicated that the scenes were likely produced by Rockstar itself, at it is practically impossible for the code of an Xbox or PS2 game to be altered unlike PC games. It also questioned how truthful and forthcoming Rockstar Games had been over the origins of the Hot Coffee mod.
"Take-Two and Rockstar Games have always worked to keep mature-themed video game content out of the hands of children and we will continue to work closely with the ESRB and community leaders to improve and better promote a reliable rating system to help consumers make informed choices about which video games are appropriate for each individual," Paul Eibeler, Take-Two's President and Chief Executive Officer said in a statement.
eric gorse - 21 Jul 2005 09:20 GMT The Parents Television Council letter can be found at
http://www.parentstv.org/PTC/publications/release/2005/rockstarletter.asp
Chris Wright - 21 Jul 2005 09:23 GMT > "Take-Two and Rockstar Games have always worked to keep mature-themed > video game content out of the hands of children and we will continue [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > individual," Paul Eibeler, Take-Two's President and Chief Executive > Officer said in a statement. Heck, it was already an 18 certificate game, children aren't supposed to play it anyway. And if someone goes to the trouble of downloading a crack to see the rude stuff, then that's their decision. Ho hum.
tonewheel - 25 Jul 2005 13:23 GMT And the funny part for me is that R* are releasing a patch for 'already purchased titles'. How does this work then, do the cops come round and stand over you while you install the patch or is it something you decide to do for yourself? And if the latter, couldn't you equally well decide not to use the Hot Coffee mod in the first place? TWJ
Jack Crack - 25 Jul 2005 16:13 GMT > And the funny part for me is that R* are releasing a patch for 'already > purchased titles'. How does this work then, do the cops come round and > stand over you while you install the patch or is it something you > decide to do for yourself? And if the latter, couldn't you equally well > decide not to use the Hot Coffee mod in the first place? > TWJ The uptight frigid mommy can update the game on her precious baby's machine. So that, even if Precious attempts to install the mod it will not work. However, daddy's machine had better not be touched. After all, using CJ to schlong it to his girl friends is the best action daddy has had since he and mommy made Precious.
Oops, I am talking like a married guy again.
M - 26 Jul 2005 19:29 GMT >> And the funny part for me is that R* are releasing a patch for >> 'already purchased titles'. How does this work then, do the cops [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Oops, I am talking like a married guy again. From one married man to another.......some advice.......
Drop Precious off at babysitter/ grandparents Get Mommy to dress up like a Ho from San Andreas (liberal amounts of alcohol maybe required) Drive Mommy to a secluded spot (or sometimes just behind some trees works) Bang Mommy for all your worth whilst shouting things like "CJ's tha man!"......"I hope your clean bitch!"......
Optional is then kicking Mommy out of the car and decapitating her to get your money back........after all how many women carry £15000 per year married on them !
Remember: Like CJ always carry a camera on you to take those impromptu photos of sexual degradation........
Enough alcohol to get the wife drunk enough to consent to dressing like a ho..........£20 Petrol used to drive about until a secluded spot is found........£5 Valenting needed to remove stains from back seat upholstery......£25 Photos of the missus dressed like a ho on the backseat, knickers round ankles and eyes rolling..........Priceless!
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Rob White - 26 Jul 2005 20:29 GMT > Priceless! And to think I wasn't going to get married 'cos it was boring....
Cheers, Rob
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| / \| \ | | || ||| /__\ | mflt35@dsl.pipex.com | \__/|__/ |_|_|| |||__\___ | Wimbledon, London, England. G Hardy - 27 Jul 2005 13:16 GMT > > Priceless! > > And to think I wasn't going to get married 'cos it was boring.... Far from it. IMO the fun gets wilder, it's just you share it with just one person.
G Hardy - 27 Jul 2005 13:14 GMT > Petrol used to drive about until a secluded spot is found........£5 Is that all? In real life - you must drive a Blista Compact.
M - 27 Jul 2005 19:05 GMT > > Petrol used to drive about until a secluded spot is found........£5 > > Is that all? In real life - you must drive a Blista Compact. £5 will get me approx 45-50 miles.......and thats a Toyota Carina estate........thats more than far enough to find a good car rocking spot....... Still I do live on the edge of town with 100's of square miles of countryside around..............
Funny that you comment on the petrol though...........it was the cost of the valenting that got to me.......still that stain was a good 'un! ;-)
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G Hardy - 27 Jul 2005 20:31 GMT > > > Petrol used to drive about until a secluded spot is found........£5 > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Still I do live on the edge of town with 100's of square miles of > countryside around.............. Ho hum - I'm a "Landstalker" driver so I get about half that. Still, I live in the countryside so I only *need* half that...
> Funny that you comment on the petrol though...........it was the cost of the > valenting that got to me.......still that stain was a good 'un! My wife's car looks like it's had a bukkake* marathon in it - that's what kids do for you.
* If you don't know what it is, you don't want to know. In this case, Google is definitely NOT your friend.
M - 29 Jul 2005 00:34 GMT >>>> Petrol used to drive about until a secluded spot is found........£5 >>> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Ho hum - I'm a "Landstalker" driver so I get about half that. Still, > I live in the countryside so I only *need* half that... I also should have said that I live near Dundee (Scotland)........petrol is alot cheaper here than down south in England.....
>> Funny that you comment on the petrol though...........it was the >> cost of the valenting that got to me.......still that stain was a >> good 'un! > > My wife's car looks like it's had a bukkake marathon in it "Bukkake (from the Japanese verb ?????, bukkakeru: "to douse, to pour") is a group sex practice wherein a series of men take turns ejaculating on a person, most often a woman. There are strong overtones of erotic humiliation in this practice. "
And I thought I was a bit kinky!!!!! LOL
Still...... you know what these SUV drivers are like ! ;-)
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PhilHibbs - 25 Jul 2005 16:12 GMT I kind of agree, but R* were inexcusably arrogant, and they deliberately gamed the system. They included content on the disc, and did not disclose it to the ESRB. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if the ESRB refuse to rate their next game on the grounds that R* have acted in a dishonest manner.
Phil Hibbs.
James - 21 Jul 2005 13:06 GMT > http://www.betanews.com/article/RockStar_Confirms_Hot_Coffee_Not_a_Hack/1121884637 > [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > individual," Paul Eibeler, Take-Two's President and Chief Executive > Officer said in a statement. I do like the way that they dont mind all the drug abuse, prostitution, pimping, racism, swearing, slashing of people with swords, shooting off of heads and limbs, robbery, car stealing, running pedestrians over, blowing up of cars with people on, setting people on fire, etc...
But, they get all up in arms about two people having sex.
I assume they dont mind if i run about shooting people in my street, but as soon as i tell them i am going home to have 'relations' with my wife, they'd start calling the cops?
Weird.
PhilHibbs - 25 Jul 2005 16:07 GMT Drug abuse? Is drug use portrayed in anything but a negative light at any point in the game? CJ never uses drugs, even if you say yes to the drug dealer.
Phil Hibbs.
G Hardy - 21 Jul 2005 14:59 GMT > By Ed Oswald, BetaNews > July 20, 2005, 9:17 PM > > UPDATED The fight over "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas" came to a > climax... I think Ed's having fun with this story, don't you?
Martin Ebnoether - 21 Jul 2005 15:50 GMT Hello.
> The discovery indicated that the scenes were likely produced by > Rockstar itself, at it is practically impossible for the code of an > Xbox or PS2 game to be altered unlike PC games. It also questioned how > truthful and forthcoming Rockstar Games had been over the origins of > the Hot Coffee mod. This sounds like someone suggests, that Rockstar Games themselves programmed the mod and released it into the wild. They knew, that if it had been in the game from the beginning, that would have led to even bigger troubles. So they included it in the game and waited for the release of the mod which sets it free, until the PC version was here. Now it should have looked all, like some anonymous hacker did it. Of course, this is just a rumor!
If it was that way, what a genius move this had been. So cool!
CU, Venty
Jack Crack - 21 Jul 2005 18:12 GMT > Hello. > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > CU, Venty I bought the game on day 1. I found the first version of the mod a couple of days later.
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