 |
 | Home | Contact Us | FAQ | Search & Site Map | Link to Us |
 | Sign In | Join | Other 45 Sites in Network |
| HomeDiscussion Groups Platforms PCXboxPlayStationNintendoGames ActionStrategyRole Playing GamesSimulatorsSport Games |
Game Forum / Action Games / Grand Theft Auto / July 2005Hey, Everybody, What's the Deal with the Gangs?
What's the deal with the Los Santos gangs in the video game "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas"? Since the character OG-Loke is a member of the Grove Street Families, one would think that they are the equivalent of the real life Cribs. "Loke", I believe, is a Crib slang term for other Cribs. (Think, for example, of the seminal hit "Nothing But a 'G' Thing" by Doctor Dre and Snoop Doggie Dog, where the pair is referred to as "two loked-out negroes going crazy". It is known that Snoop Doggie Dog is affiliated with the Long Beach Cribs, as you can hear from his many "shout-outs" to "the LBC".) (On the other hand, Death Row, the label that used to pay them, is rumored to be bankrolled by Bloods. Why would a Blood record label have Crib affiliated hip hop artists? Can anyone shed some light on this?) But I digress. In the game the Grove Street Families are a small, beleaguered gang surrounded by the bigger Ballers, which doesn't fit the Cribs. On the other hand, if they're supposed to be the Bloods, why is one of them going around calling himself a Crib? Further, the Grove Street color is green whereas the Ballers - the biggest gang at the beginning of the game, set in 1992 - dress in purple. Purple is closer to red, which is the Bloods' color, whereas green is a color for boys, like the Cribs' blue. Also, the names "Ballers" and "Bloods" both begin with the letter "b". Finally, the Grove Street Families are a loose, disunited coalition of gangs. The Ballers certainly seem to be more united at the beginning of the game. Does this suggest that Grove Street is Bloods, a coalition of gangs united by their hatred for the Cribs? For a white person like myself this is all most confusing. Please help, LA gang experts. Which "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas" Los Santos gang corresponds to which real life Los Angeles gang?  SignatureAri <asik@despammed.com> PS: Is Doctor Dre really a doctor? You are taking the game way too seriously!!!......just play the game and enjoy the damn thing man!!!!! 8-) > What's the deal with the Los Santos gangs in the video game "Grand > Theft Auto: San Andreas"? Since the character OG-Loke is a member of > the Grove Street Families, one would think that they are the > equivalent of the real life Cribs. "Loke", I believe, is a Crib slang > term for other Cribs. Paul said: > You are taking the game way too seriously!!!......just play the game and > enjoy the damn thing man!!!!! 8-) > Yes, let someone else tell you what to enjoy, never mind the personal interest in cars and games you might have!!!!!!!!! 8-) Bram Signaturehttp://www.stack.nl/~brama/gtastats.html Paul <wf1000xg@hotmail.com> did this: >> What's the deal with the Los Santos gangs in the video game "Grand >> Theft Auto: San Andreas"? Since the character OG-Loke is a member of [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > You are taking the game way too seriously!!!......just play the game and > enjoy the damn thing man!!!!! 8-) I do enjoy the damn thing. My enjoyment is enhanced when I notice similarities between real life and the game. I suspect I'm not alone in this. After all, there's a reason why the game's designers have filled it with cities, cars, and products that closely resemble real ones. SignatureAri <asik@despammed.com> Apparently, "Paul" <wf1000xg@hotmail.com> wrote in news:42d65352$1 @duster.adelaide.on.net: > You are taking the game way too seriously!!!......just play the game and > enjoy the damn thing man!!!!! 8-) We should shoot you for that comment. SignatureYou need to BeDoper http://www.bedoper.com 187 All Cops http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/news/video/taser_video3a.html Gortician - 1000 Days in Sodom (Venom Cover) with Jeremy of Despondency http://www.mindspring.com/~jackiv/gort_1kdays.zip > Apparently, "Paul" <wf1000xg@hotmail.com> wrote in news:42d65352$1 > @duster.adelaide.on.net: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > We should shoot you for that comment. Hillary Clinton takes it seriously... <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4682533.stm> Clinton wades into GTA sex storm Senator Hillary Clinton has stepped into the controversy over sex scenes in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas. The senator wants the US Federal Trade Commission to find out who put the explicit material in the game. The US Entertainment Software Rating Board is already investigating GTA maker Rockstar over the matter. Rockstar has denied that it included the graphic content in San Andreas and has instead accused hackers of altering the code. Test case The controversy about the Hot Coffee mod broke earlier this week with the ESRB's announcement of its investigation. The board wants to find out if Rockstar broke rules that demand it tell industry regulations if such material is included in games. The downloadable mod was put together by Dutch GTA fan Patrick Wildenborg and is said to unlock mini-games in the recently-released PC version of San Andreas that lets players make game characters have sex. The ESRB wants to work out if the sexual content was in the game all along but hidden or if the mod adds it. For its part Rockstar said that the Hot Coffee mod only works because hackers took apart, rebuilt and then recompiled the game's underlying computer code. Hackers had gone to "significant trouble to alter scenes in the official version of the game," Rockstar said in a statement. Mr Wildenborg said all the scenes unlocked by the mod were in the original game but were simply inaccessible. Rockstar said it was looking into ways to change San Andreas to stop the Hot Coffee mod working. Concerns about minors As well as seeking to find out who put the content in the game, Senator Clinton wants the FTC to find out if the game has been given the wrong rating by the ESRB. Senator Clinton also wants to find out if game stores are doing enough to stop minors getting hold of the game. In a letter to the FTC, Senator Clinton cited a study by the National Institute on Media and the Family that found 50% of boys between seven and 14 years old could buy mature rated games. "There is no doubting the fact that the widespread availability of sexually explicit and graphically violent video games makes the challenge of parenting much harder," said the senator in her missive to the FTC. The mature or "M" rated PC version of San Andreas is only supposed to be bought by those aged 17 and over. If the game were to be get the rarely awarded Adults-Only (AO) rating, sales of the game could plummet. The PlayStation 2 version of San Andreas was the best-selling game of 2004 in the US. _- -_ subRoutine <http://www.softtargets.com> Overunity Energy Mechanism 0,0,1 > What's the deal with the Los Santos gangs in the video game "Grand > Theft Auto: San Andreas"? Since the character OG-Loke is a member of [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > help, LA gang experts. Which "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas" Los > Santos gang corresponds to which real life Los Angeles gang? MTV Cribs is a reality show about gangs? Wasteland Drifter <wasteland.drifter@NOSPAMgmail.com> did this: >> What's the deal with the Los Santos gangs in the video game "Grand >> Theft Auto: San Andreas"? Since the character OG-Loke is a member of [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > MTV Cribs is a reality show about gangs? No, I believe it's a show about people's homes, also known as "cribs". Also, _First Blood_ was not about Sylvester Stallone's character's quest to find the founder of the Bloods. The gang's name, by the way, comes from the fact that in the early days its members were really young, not from the alternative meaning "to steal" as many erroneously believe. SignatureAri <asik@despammed.com> > Wasteland Drifter <wasteland.drifter@NOSPAMgmail.com> did this: > [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > Also, _First Blood_ was not about Sylvester Stallone's character's > quest to find the founder of the Bloods. Are you sure? I'm sure that's what that film was about... > The gang's name, by the way, comes from the fact that in the early > days its members were really young, not from the alternative meaning > "to steal" as many erroneously believe. The gang's name, by the way, is *CRIPS*. > The gang's name, by the way, is *CRIPS*. Ha! So I WAS right then! :oD Rob Signature.__ __ |__ |__ .|__ __ | Rob White, Half Man Half Biscuit. | / \| \ | | || ||| /__\ | mflt35@dsl.pipex.com | \__/|__/ |_|_|| |||__\___ | Wimbledon, London, England. >> Wasteland Drifter <wasteland.drifter@NOSPAMgmail.com> did this: >> [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > Are you sure? I'm sure that's what that film was about... With Mike Concepcion as The LT. >> The gang's name, by the way, comes from the fact that in the early >> days its members were really young, not from the alternative meaning >> "to steal" as many erroneously believe. > > The gang's name, by the way, is *CRIPS*. Are you sure about that? SignatureYou need to BeDoper http://www.bedoper.com 187 All Cops http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/news/video/taser_video3a.html Gortician - 1000 Days in Sodom (Venom Cover) with Jeremy of Despondency http://www.mindspring.com/~jackiv/gort_1kdays.zip >>> Wasteland Drifter <wasteland.drifter@NOSPAMgmail.com> did this: >>> [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > > Are you sure about that? No "Wasteland Drifter" <wasteland.drifter@NOSPAMgmail.com> did this: > > Wasteland Drifter <wasteland.drifter@NOSPAMgmail.com> did this: > >> MTV Cribs is a reality show about gangs? > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Are you sure? I'm sure that's what that film was about... Now you're just being silly. > > The gang's name, by the way, comes from the fact that in the early > > days its members were really young, not from the alternative meaning > > "to steal" as many erroneously believe. > > The gang's name, by the way, is *CRIPS*. No, that's a media invention based on the fact that a lot of the early gang members carried canes, so it was said that they were "crippin'". (CJ can carry a cane in "GTA: San Andreas" - another hint, perhaps?) SignatureAri <asik@despammed.com> > Wasteland Drifter <wasteland.drifter@NOSPAMgmail.com> did this: > [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > days its members were really young, not from the alternative meaning > "to steal" as many erroneously believe. lol... f.cking epic... >The gang's name, by the way, comes from the fact that in the early >days its members were really young, not from the alternative meaning >"to steal" as many erroneously believe. What has 'crip' got to do with being young? There are loads of origins cited all over the place, but I've never heard this one. Most are based around ancronyms (Crazy Ruthless/Real Insane Person for example). Like I said, I'd suggest reading up (Monster, Do or Die etc etc) if you're geniunely interested. I'd take a stab at this being a very random attempt to troll, though, what with alt.flame being included in the recipients? >> The gang's name, by the way, comes from the fact that in the early >> days its members were really young, not from the alternative meaning >> "to steal" as many erroneously believe. > > What has 'crip' got to do with being young? Babies sleep in them... >>> The gang's name, by the way, comes from the fact that in the early >>> days its members were really young, not from the alternative meaning [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Babies sleep in them... Cowards Run In Packs >>>> The gang's name, by the way, comes from the fact that in the early >>>> days its members were really young, not from the alternative [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Cowards Run In Packs Children Ride In Pushchairs >>>>> The gang's name, by the way, comes from the fact that in the early >>>>> days its members were really young, not from the alternative [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Children Ride In Pushchairs stick to the subject matter buddy... >>>>>> The gang's name, by the way, comes from the fact that in the >>>>>> early days its members were really young, not from the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > stick to the subject matter buddy... My bad... >>>>> The gang's name, by the way, comes from the fact that in the early >>>>> days its members were really young, not from the alternative [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Children Ride In Pushchairs Creamy Risotto In Progress SignatureYou need to BeDoper http://www.bedoper.com 187 All Cops http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/news/video/taser_video3a.html Gortician - 1000 Days in Sodom (Venom Cover) with Jeremy of Despondency http://www.mindspring.com/~jackiv/gort_1kdays.zip >>>>>> The gang's name, by the way, comes from the fact that in the >>>>>> early days its members were really young, not from the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Creamy Risotto In Progress Cripples Researching Indigestion Problems "Wasteland Drifter" <wasteland.drifter@NOSPAMgmail.com> did this: > >>>>>> The gang's name, by the way, comes from the fact that in the > >>>>>> early days its members were really young, not from the [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Cripples Researching Indigestion Problems Coterie of Rheumatic Insane Pushers SignatureAri <asik@despammed.com> > "Wasteland Drifter" <wasteland.drifter@NOSPAMgmail.com> did this: > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Coterie of Rheumatic Insane Pushers Coalition of Realists Into Pump-Shotguns SignatureYou need to BeDoper http://www.bedoper.com 187 All Cops http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/news/video/taser_video3a.html Gortician - 1000 Days in Sodom (Venom Cover) with Jeremy of Despondency http://www.mindspring.com/~jackiv/gort_1kdays.zip > "Wasteland Drifter" <wasteland.drifter@NOSPAMgmail.com> did this: > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Coterie of Rheumatic Insane Pushers The term crip originally came about when a Korean storeowner was attacked, and described one of the assailants as a cripple - probably from their gangster-lean crip-walk style. SignatureDave Zero "And I don't care about making an a.s out of myself because most people already realize I am one." - Dr. Kary B. Mullis "I criticize by creation" - Cicero "I'm not here to make people happy. I prefer to piss people off." - Liam Gallagher >>>>>> The gang's name, by the way, comes from the fact that in the early >>>>>> days its members were really young, not from the alternative [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Creamy Risotto In Progress c.nts - RED IN PERIODS A to the L "if someone made a pie with lil jon's face baked on it that would be amazing" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contradictory Hiphop truth with a bitter and twisted attitude http://www.altrap.com Oh f.ck, I was being dumb... of course if we stick with Crib, he'd have a valid point. I love the fact he's got the name wrong and fabricated the origins of the *wrong* name while making it look like it's supposed to be fact, not just an idea of his. Nice. > Oh f.ck, I was being dumb... of course if we stick with Crib, he'd have > a valid point. I love the fact he's got the name wrong and fabricated > the origins of the *wrong* name while making it look like it's supposed > to be fact, not just an idea of his. Nice. you gotta give him props for it being a good troll though... Indeed, although has it really created much argument? It wasn't really provocative enough... > Indeed, although has it really created much argument? It wasn't really > provocative enough... trolls are not always made for argument, they sometimes just want to see what types of response they get... its fun to play along... whats even funnier is to see people taking it serious... looks like the work of sknight aka bullyo to me... :-) >>Indeed, although has it really created much argument? It wasn't really >>provocative enough... [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > looks like the work of sknight aka bullyo to me... :-) Maybe trolling a newsgroups is a new Crib initiation thing. >>>Indeed, although has it really created much argument? It wasn't really >>>provocative enough... [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Maybe trolling a newsgroups is a new Crib initiation thing. yeah, mtv called me but i turned em down... i dont want any of you to be jealous... :-) > Maybe trolling a newsgroups is a new Crib initiation thing. "I'm one baaaaaaad cyba-gangsta!" :o) Cheers, Rob Signature.__ __ |__ |__ .|__ __ | Rob White, Half Man Half Biscuit. | / \| \ | | || ||| /__\ | mflt35@dsl.pipex.com | \__/|__/ |_|_|| |||__\___ | Wimbledon, London, England. >> Maybe trolling a newsgroups is a new Crib initiation thing. > > "I'm one baaaaaaad cyba-gangsta!" On Usenet, it's Blood In, Blood Out. SignatureYou need to BeDoper http://www.bedoper.com 187 All Cops http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/news/video/taser_video3a.html Gortician - 1000 Days in Sodom (Venom Cover) with Jeremy of Despondency http://www.mindspring.com/~jackiv/gort_1kdays.zip >> Indeed, although has it really created much argument? It wasn't really >> provocative enough... [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > looks like the work of sknight aka bullyo to me... :-) That's what I was thinking. I'm going run some IP tracing software on him. SignatureYou need to BeDoper http://www.bedoper.com 187 All Cops http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/news/video/taser_video3a.html Gortician - 1000 Days in Sodom (Venom Cover) with Jeremy of Despondency http://www.mindspring.com/~jackiv/gort_1kdays.zip >>> Indeed, although has it really created much argument? It wasn't really >>> provocative enough... [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >That's what I was thinking. I'm going run some IP tracing software on him. Where's that idiot Lionel, when you need him? >>>> Indeed, although has it really created much argument? It wasn't really >>>> provocative enough... [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Where's that idiot Lionel, when you need him? Getting laser eye surgery? SignatureYou need to BeDoper http://www.bedoper.com 187 All Cops http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/news/video/taser_video3a.html Gortician - 1000 Days in Sodom (Venom Cover) with Jeremy of Despondency http://www.mindspring.com/~jackiv/gort_1kdays.zip >>>>> Indeed, although has it really created much argument? It wasn't really >>>>> provocative enough... [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> >> Where's that idiot Lionel, when you need him? ^ Where'd that come from? >Getting laser eye surgery? Getting yacked on by some fat goth sow? > >>> Indeed, although has it really created much argument? It wasn't really > >>> provocative enough... [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Where's that idiot Lionel, when you need him? Trolling Asian pr0n sites. -- http://www.bedoper.com/snuh ------- / \ / \ /-----\ | (@) | | SnuH | | (O) | \_ ___/ | / | || | \ /_ / // \ \____/ / / \ / \_____, >> Oh f.ck, I was being dumb... of course if we stick with Crib, he'd have >> a valid point. I love the fact he's got the name wrong and fabricated >> the origins of the *wrong* name while making it look like it's supposed >> to be fact, not just an idea of his. Nice. > > you gotta give him props for it being a good troll though... There was a troll? SignatureYou need to BeDoper http://www.bedoper.com 187 All Cops http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/news/video/taser_video3a.html Gortician - 1000 Days in Sodom (Venom Cover) with Jeremy of Despondency http://www.mindspring.com/~jackiv/gort_1kdays.zip "O.G. Wodehouse" <master@mason.snuh> did this: > >> Oh f.ck, I was being dumb... of course if we stick with Crib, he'd have > >> a valid point. I love the fact he's got the name wrong and fabricated [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > There was a troll? I don't get it. I wanted to have a serious discussion about the gangs in "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas" and people started to argue about an unimportant detail and to call me names. SignatureAri <asik@despammed.com> > "O.G. Wodehouse" <master@mason.snuh> did this: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > in "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas" and people started to argue about > an unimportant detail and to call me names. Your little gang game is now illegal in the states. Thanks a lot, Ari! SignatureYou need to BeDoper http://www.bedoper.com 187 All Cops http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/news/video/taser_video3a.html Gortician - 1000 Days in Sodom (Venom Cover) with Jeremy of Despondency http://www.mindspring.com/~jackiv/gort_1kdays.zip "David Icke & Tina Turner" <master@mason.snuh> did this: > > I don't get it. I wanted to have a serious discussion about the gangs > > in "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas" and people started to argue about [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Thanks a lot, Ari! After it was brought to the attention of the relevant authorities that children who have this game on the PC can access softcore sex scenes just by downloading a modification for the game from the Internet, obviously something had to be done. We're lucky that kids who don't own this game can't download porn off the Internet. SignatureAri <asik@despammed.com> > "David Icke & Tina Turner" <master@mason.snuh> did this: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > obviously something had to be done. We're lucky that kids who don't > own this game can't download porn off the Internet. i'm sure the mom or dad that bought if for jr's christmas present also got him a carton of pall malls. dave Well, so far you've heard my voice But I've brought some friends along And next on the mike is my man "O.G. Wodehouse" Come on, "O.G. Wodehouse", sing that song! >Uh check it out: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >There was a troll? Yeah, a troll. It stands for Toughguys Rippin' On Lame Posters. Yes, that should be "trolp," but the media misspelled it back in the seventies. Apparently, Russell B <bigfunchy@databasix.com> wrote in news:dbp4oo$kjn$1 @snarf.databasix.com: > Well, so far you've heard my voice > But I've brought some friends along [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Yes, that should be "trolp," but the media misspelled it back in the > seventies. Es verdad, holmes? SignatureYou need to BeDoper http://www.bedoper.com 187 All Cops http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/news/video/taser_video3a.html Gortician - 1000 Days in Sodom (Venom Cover) with Jeremy of Despondency http://www.mindspring.com/~jackiv/gort_1kdays.zip > Well, so far you've heard my voice > But I've brought some friends along > And next on the mike is my man "O.G. Wodehouse" > Come on, "O.G. Wodehouse", sing that song! Take him up on it. A rap battle between Russell and anyone else would be amusing. What up, dude? SignatureDave Zero "And I don't care about making an a.s out of myself because most people already realize I am one." - Dr. Kary B. Mullis "I criticize by creation" - Cicero "I'm not here to make people happy. I prefer to piss people off." - Liam Gallagher Well, so far you've heard my voice But I've brought some friends along And next on the mike is my man "Dave Zero" Come on, "Dave Zero", sing that song! >Uh check it out: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Take him up on it. A rap battle between Russell and anyone else would be >amusing. What up, dude? You still suck. > Well, so far you've heard my voice > But I've brought some friends along > And next on the mike is my man "Dave Zero" > Come on, "Dave Zero", sing that song! Don't ever try to judge me dude You don't know what the f.ck i've been through But i know something about you You went to Cranbrook that's a private school What's the matter dawg? You embarrassed? This guy's a gangsta his real name's Clarence And Clarence lives at home with both parents And Clarence's parents have a real good marriage This guy don't wanna battle he shook Koz there aint no such thang as HALF WAY CROOKS!! He's scared to death He's scared to look at his fuckin yearbook f.ck Cranbrook f.ck a beat, I go a capella f.ck a Papa Doc, f.ck a clock, fuckk a trailer, f.ck everybody f.ck y'all if you doubt me I'm a piece of f.cking white trash, I say it proudly And f.ck this battle I don't wanna win; I'm outty Here, tell these people sumin they dont know about me >>> Well, so far you've heard my voice >>> But I've brought some friends along [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > You still suck. You change by not changing at all, I see. SignatureDave Zero "And I don't care about making an a.s out of myself because most people already realize I am one." - Dr. Kary B. Mullis "I criticize by creation" - Cicero "I'm not here to make people happy. I prefer to piss people off." - Liam Gallagher Well, so far you've heard my voice But I've brought some friends along And next on the mike is my man "Dave Zero" Come on, "Dave Zero", sing that song! >Uh check it out: > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > >You change by not changing at all, I see. My ability to discern suckitude hasn't diminished over the months and years since I encountered you last, if that's what you mean. Or even if it isn't. >>The gang's name, by the way, comes from the fact that in the early >>days its members were really young, not from the alternative meaning [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I'd take a stab at this being a very random attempt to troll, though, > what with alt.flame being included in the recipients? Crip - Mental Cripple. I.E. - Crazy. SignatureYou need to BeDoper http://www.bedoper.com 187 All Cops http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/news/video/taser_video3a.html Gortician - 1000 Days in Sodom (Venom Cover) with Jeremy of Despondency http://www.mindspring.com/~jackiv/gort_1kdays.zip "Simon Burrows" <simonjburrows@gmail.com> did this: > >The gang's name, by the way, comes from the fact that in the early > >days its members were really young, not from the alternative meaning [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I said, I'd suggest reading up (Monster, Do or Die etc etc) if you're > geniunely interested. "Crib" is a bed with high sides meant for babies. I've read that the gang was at first called the Baby Avenues, which then changed to Avenue Cribs, which was finally shortened to Cribs. The acronyms are probably a later attempt to explain the media-created misspelling "Crip", which after all means nothing. The "Continuous Revolution in Progress" one is particularly silly. If the revolution is in progress, of course it's continuous. What gang would take on such a redundant name? Let's think about the explanations we offer, people. We don't want to spread misinformation about this important topic, do we? > I'd take a stab at this being a very random attempt to troll, though, > what with alt.flame being included in the recipients? I don't read the other newsgroups, so I included a group I do read so I would see the responses. Other alt.flamers won't mind a bit of spirited debate on the topic, I'm sure. SignatureAri <asik@despammed.com> > MTV Cribs is a reality show about gangs? That would be bad-a.s. You could put various D-list celebrities in the different gangs, and each week one could be 'voted out' with a drive-by :). Mark > > MTV Cribs is a reality show about gangs? > > That would be bad-a.s. You could put various D-list celebrities in the > different gangs, and each week one could be 'voted out' with a drive-by > :). There was a show on Bravo(?) I think that featured Grub Smith and the LA gangs. Quite interesting I seem to remember. Cheers, Rob Signature.__ __ |__ |__ .|__ __ | Rob White, Half Man Half Biscuit. | / \| \ | | || ||| /__\ | mflt35@dsl.pipex.com | \__/|__/ |_|_|| |||__\___ | Wimbledon, London, England. >> What's the deal with the Los Santos gangs in the video game "Grand >> Theft Auto: San Andreas"? Since the character OG-Loke is a member of [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > MTV Cribs is a reality show about gangs? ahhh sh.t, beat me to it... I think you're thinking *way* too hard about it, I don't think Rockstar went for much real-life continuity in the game. Obviously it has it's parallels to LA, but there's not much set in stone that they don't switch around to suit the game's storyline. Incidentally, it's Crip, not Crib. Try reading Monster, the biography of Sanyika Shakur, if you're interested .. it gives a really good background to the LA gang scene. Loc (not Loke) isn't (as far as I can tell) particularly crip-specific. It can be used as short for Loco (crazy, unhinged... i.e. what snoop used it for) or short for Local and used like Homeboy. Search google groups for Patrick Atoon's Rap Dictionary on rec.music.hip-hop , it's probably in there somewhere! "Simon Burrows" <simonjburrows@gmail.com> did this: > I think you're thinking *way* too hard about it, I don't think Rockstar > went for much real-life continuity in the game. Obviously it has it's > parallels to LA, but there's not much set in stone that they don't > switch around to suit the game's storyline. That is possible, I suppose, as the clues are so very confusing, at least to a person who doesn't belong to a Los Angeles street gang. It's a shame we don't appear to have any street gang members in residence. > Incidentally, it's Crip, not Crib. Try reading Monster, the biography > of Sanyika Shakur, if you're interested .. it gives a really good > background to the LA gang scene. Does Mr or Ms Shakur use the spelling "Crip"? > Loc (not Loke) isn't (as far as I can tell) particularly crip-specific. It appears that you have a point on the spelling of "loc". I was going by the somewhat misleading pronounciation. > It can be used as short for Loco (crazy, unhinged... i.e. what snoop > used it for) That would mean that he was talking about two "crazed-out" black persons "going crazy". Would a famous lyricist like Snoop Doggie Dog "spit" such a redundant line? > or short for Local and used like Homeboy. Two localed-out African Americans going crazy? That doesn't work, either. > Search google > groups for Patrick Atoon's Rap Dictionary on rec.music.hip-hop , it's > probably in there somewhere! Thank you for that suggestion. I looked it up, but was disappointed not to find the word "holmes" (as used by many Hispanic characters in "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas"). SignatureAri <asik@despammed.com> > Thank you for that suggestion. I looked it up, but was disappointed > not to find the word "holmes" (as used by many Hispanic characters in > "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas"). How about 'holmes' as in hombres? SignatureM Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? ...why, other guards, of course! > "Simon Burrows" <simonjburrows@gmail.com> did this: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > It's a shame we don't appear to have any street gang members in > residence. I'll be happy to introduce you to a couple.... >> Incidentally, it's Crip, not Crib. Try reading Monster, the biography >> of Sanyika Shakur, if you're interested .. it gives a really good >> background to the LA gang scene. > > Does Mr or Ms Shakur use the spelling "Crip"? Yes. And it is an excellent book. Monster's been there and done it, he knows the real. >> Loc (not Loke) isn't (as far as I can tell) particularly >> crip-specific. > > It appears that you have a point on the spelling of "loc". I was going > by the somewhat misleading pronounciation. Bloods often replace the letter C with something else to show enmity for Crips. Maybe a Crip "locs" and a Blood "loks" >> It can be used as short for Loco (crazy, unhinged... i.e. what snoop >> used it for) > > That would mean that he was talking about two "crazed-out" black > persons "going crazy". Would a famous lyricist like Snoop Doggie Dog > "spit" such a redundant line? Loc'ed is loc'ed, G'd up, crazy for some gangbangin' and shootin'. >> or short for Local and used like Homeboy. > > Two localed-out African Americans going crazy? That doesn't work, > either. No, but a frequent form of address between friends of whatever race is "What's up, loc?" >> Search google >> groups for Patrick Atoon's Rap Dictionary on rec.music.hip-hop , it's [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > not to find the word "holmes" (as used by many Hispanic characters in > "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas"). They get confused over the whole holmes - homeboys - homes - homie structure and who used what forms. SignatureDave Zero "And I don't care about making an a.s out of myself because most people already realize I am one." - Dr. Kary B. Mullis "I criticize by creation" - Cicero "I'm not here to make people happy. I prefer to piss people off." - Liam Gallagher > Loc'ed is loc'ed, G'd up, crazy for some gangbangin' and shootin'. ^^^^^^^^^^^ I hope that doesn't mean the same in America as it does here in the UK. And chaps, please stop cross-posting. Cheers, Rob Signature.__ __ |__ |__ .|__ __ | Rob White, Half Man Half Biscuit. | / \| \ | | || ||| /__\ | mflt35@dsl.pipex.com | \__/|__/ |_|_|| |||__\___ | Wimbledon, London, England. > > Loc'ed is loc'ed, G'd up, crazy for some gangbangin' and shootin'. > ^^^^^^^^^^^ > > I hope that doesn't mean the same in America as it does here in the UK. Why? What is the meaning in the UK? It has at least two meanings in the US. One is the term used by gangs for their criminal adventures. The second is typically involves one person and multiple partners (sometimes voluntarily, sometimes forced). "Dave Zero" <davezero@charter.net> did this: > > "Simon Burrows" <simonjburrows@gmail.com> did this: > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > I'll be happy to introduce you to a couple.... I don't necessarily want to personally meet them. I've heard that some of them can be quite assertive and unpleasantly violent. However, if you could ask them what's the deal with the gangs in "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas", I'd be grateful. > >> Incidentally, it's Crip, not Crib. Try reading Monster, the biography > >> of Sanyika Shakur, if you're interested .. it gives a really good [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Yes. And it is an excellent book. Monster's been there and done it, he > knows the real. It could be that his editors insisted on it, to make the book more palatable to Mr Shakur's white audience. This wouldn't be the first time that a product of "the streets" is deliberately altered to make it more palatable and less threatening to suburbanites. Think about the controlled, subdued choreographies of Motown girl groups, for example. > >> Loc (not Loke) isn't (as far as I can tell) particularly > >> crip-specific. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Bloods often replace the letter C with something else to show enmity for > Crips. Maybe a Crip "locs" and a Blood "loks" Sounds krap to me. (Heh heh. A little joke to lighten the mood.) > >> It can be used as short for Loco (crazy, unhinged... i.e. what snoop > >> used it for) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Loc'ed is loc'ed, G'd up, crazy for some gangbangin' and shootin'. Gangbanging? I've never understood that. I mean, the other guys in the room while you're... ugh! > >> or short for Local and used like Homeboy. > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > No, but a frequent form of address between friends of whatever race is > "What's up, loc?" How does this work in areas where the residents are rarely, to use your expression, "G'd up"? Won't friends - of whatever race - be offended by the suggestion that they enjoy shooting people? > >> Search google > >> groups for Patrick Atoon's Rap Dictionary on rec.music.hip-hop , it's [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > They get confused over the whole holmes - homeboys - homes - homie > structure and who used what forms. I once saw that happen to a person who knew a professional musician and thus should have known better. It wasn't pretty, let me tell you. A person really shouldn't pretend to know something when he's obviously just guessing. SignatureAri <asik@despammed.com> Who gives a sh.t? Only idiots play games like that in the first place. Go get a job or a girlfriend and go outside once in a while. > What's the deal with the Los Santos gangs in the video game "Grand > Theft Auto: San Andreas"? Since the character OG-Loke is a member of [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > help, LA gang experts. Which "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas" Los > Santos gang corresponds to which real life Los Angeles gang? > Who gives a sh.t? Only idiots play games like that in > the first place. Go get a job or a girlfriend and go > outside once in a while. Or, get a news account and be cool and popular! SignatureJeremey Chainsaw <lost@last.net> did this: > > What's the deal with the Los Santos gangs in the video game "Grand > > Theft Auto: San Andreas"? Since the character OG-Loke is a member of [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > the first place. Go get a job or a girlfriend and go > outside once in a while. I found your response both hurtful and uncalled-for. Obviously no one has asked you to care about the the fun-packed criminal activities offered by "GTA: San Andreas", but I question your assertion that only a person of low intelligence could enjoy them. SignatureAri <asik@despammed.com> > Chainsaw <lost@last.net> did this: > [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > offered by "GTA: San Andreas", but I question your assertion that only > a person of low intelligence could enjoy them. "Fun-packed criminal activities offered"??? Jesus Tapdancing Christ. Put down the joystick and GET A f.cking LIFE. Go outside once in a while. Buy a skateboard or a bicycle. Learn volleyball or football or tennis or street hockey. Or if you must stay inside, for God's sake Read a Goddamned Book. Learn to play guitar. Find a nice girl and discover her erogenous zones. Trust me, Life Beyond the Joystick is emminently worth living. Apparently, Chainsaw <lost@last.com> wrote in news:QGTDe.5571$_%4.831 @newssvr14.news.prodigy.com: > Buy a skateboard or a bicycle. How about a sports-related video game? SignatureYou need to BeDoper http://www.bedoper.com 187 All Cops http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/news/video/taser_video3a.html Gortician - 1000 Days in Sodom (Venom Cover) with Jeremy of Despondency http://www.mindspring.com/~jackiv/gort_1kdays.zip > Chainsaw <lost@last.net> did this: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >>> Doctor Dre and Snoop Doggie Dog, where the pair is referred to as >>> "two loked-out negroes going crazy". No it's not. it's "two loc'ed out niggaz goin' crazy". If you're gonna quote something quote it. And BTW, it's Doggy Dogg, not "Doggie" SignatureDave Zero "And I don't care about making an a.s out of myself because most people already realize I am one." - Dr. Kary B. Mullis "I criticize by creation" - Cicero "I'm not here to make people happy. I prefer to piss people off." - Liam Gallagher >> Chainsaw <lost@last.net> did this: >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > And BTW, it's Doggy Dogg, not "Doggie" im guessing im the only person that thinks all of this is f.cking hilarious... >>> Chainsaw <lost@last.net> did this: >>> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > im guessing im the only person that thinks all of this is f.cking > hilarious... I'm having a good laugh. Hell, Snoop always makes me laugh. SignatureDave Zero "And I don't care about making an a.s out of myself because most people already realize I am one." - Dr. Kary B. Mullis "I criticize by creation" - Cicero "I'm not here to make people happy. I prefer to piss people off." - Liam Gallagher >>> Chainsaw <lost@last.net> did this: >>> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > im guessing im the only person that thinks all of this is f.cking > hilarious... From what I know of your background, you're probably the best qualified to set all thes fools straight on how cripping started and where the name came from. I've never really lived in a Crip neighborhood - though when I was in Venice I used to lift with a Venice Sho'Line Crip. Set everyone straight. It's your duty as sefl-poroclaimed real OG and Pimp. SignatureDave Zero "And I don't care about making an a.s out of myself because most people already realize I am one." - Dr. Kary B. Mullis "I criticize by creation" - Cicero "I'm not here to make people happy. I prefer to piss people off." - Liam Gallagher >>>> Chainsaw <lost@last.net> did this: >>>> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Set everyone straight. It's your duty as sefl-poroclaimed real OG and > Pimp. i already did... michael concepcion, odie, jermel, tookie, carl vernon, and pookie were pretty much there from day one... they started out as the smacks... one of them got hurt and ended up using a cane, cant remember who (michael concepcion has been in a wheel chair forever now)... they started out just taking peoples lunch money on the way to my junior high school (henry clay)... nobody in our hood ever thought they would become a worldwide crime organization... "Dave Zero" <davezero@charter.net> did this: > > Chainsaw <lost@last.net> did this: > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > No it's not. it's "two loc'ed out niggaz goin' crazy". If you're gonna > quote something quote it. I didn't want to use such a loaded word as "niggaz" for fear of offending our differently toned readers. (I've been told that it's an alternative spelling for the racist word "nigger".) > And BTW, it's Doggy Dogg, not "Doggie" Is that so?`Why, then, do these hip hop artists use the spelling "homie" instead of "homy" and "shortie" instead of "shorty"? SignatureAri <asik@despammed.com> > What's the deal with the Los Santos gangs in the video game "Grand > Theft Auto: San Andreas"? Since the character OG-Loke is a member of > the Grove Street Families, one would think that they are the > equivalent of the real life Cribs. "Loke", I believe, is a Crib slang > term for other Cribs. are these MTV Cribs youre talking about??? lol... its "CRIPS" not CRIBS Originally it was for: Community Resources for an Indpendent People. It was an activist group like the Black Panthers. > its "CRIPS" not CRIBS > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > It was an activist group like the Black Panthers. actually the crips were first known as the smacks... then enter carl vernon, jermel, odie, and michael conception... i pretty much grew up about four blocks from all four of them... talking about tough neighborhoods... :-) Why cross-post to this group, a hip-hop group, a basketball group and the giveaway alt.flame? Trying to start some lively discussion, are we? > What's the deal with the Los Santos gangs in the video game "Grand > Theft Auto: San Andreas"? I'm not expert on gang culture (And God knows I should be living so near Brixton and Streatham) but I think that all the gangs are based on actual gangs more from film and television more than real life. I'm probably wrong, but everytime I've heard about these LA gangs it's been pronounced 'crip'. In the game, OG Loc was only just released from prison (He tells CJ as much in the first or second cutscene) and as far as I can ascertain is not a Grove Street Family member anymore. I might have to load an old save to check, but I know he's not living on Grove Street, in fact, the place you drive him home to in one of the missions is Ballas territory. Cheers, Rob Signature.__ __ |__ |__ .|__ __ | Rob White, Half Man Half Biscuit. | / \| \ | | || ||| /__\ | mflt35@dsl.pipex.com | \__/|__/ |_|_|| |||__\___ | Wimbledon, London, England. >> What's the deal with the Los Santos gangs in the video game "Grand >> Theft Auto: San Andreas"? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > on Grove Street, in fact, the place you drive him home to in one of the > missions is Ballas territory. Where was the spoiler warning? SignatureYou need to BeDoper http://www.bedoper.com 187 All Cops http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/news/video/taser_video3a.html Gortician - 1000 Days in Sodom (Venom Cover) with Jeremy of Despondency http://www.mindspring.com/~jackiv/gort_1kdays.zip > >> What's the deal with the Los Santos gangs in the video game "Grand > >> Theft Auto: San Andreas"? [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Where was the spoiler warning? You don't get no spoiler when you're bein' set up for a cappin', Holmes. Deal wid' it. >> >> What's the deal with the Los Santos gangs in the video game "Grand >> >> Theft Auto: San Andreas"? [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Deal wid' it. You too real for me, playboy. SignatureYou need to BeDoper http://www.bedoper.com 187 All Cops http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/news/video/taser_video3a.html Gortician - 1000 Days in Sodom (Venom Cover) with Jeremy of Despondency http://www.mindspring.com/~jackiv/gort_1kdays.zip Warning: Spoilers about two OG Loc missions follow. Rob White <mflt35@dsl.pipex.com> did this: [...] > I'm probably wrong, but everytime I've heard about these LA gangs it's > been pronounced 'crip'. It's a common mistake, apparently, spread by the media. > In the game, OG Loc was only just released from prison (He tells CJ as > much in the first or second cutscene) and as far as I can ascertain is [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > on Grove Street, in fact, the place you drive him home to in one of the > missions is Ballas territory. I think you're wrong here. In the mission "OG Loc" you first drive Jeffrey to Freddy's home in Flores. After you've killed Freddy, CJ suggests that they get back to the Grove, but Jeffrey has to go to his new job, so you drive him to a Burger Shot. In the "House Party" mission I got the impression that Jeffrey lives in the house in which the party takes place, i.e. across the street from the Johnson residence on Grove Street. SignatureAri <asik@despammed.com> > Warning: Spoilers about two OG Loc missions follow. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > the party takes place, i.e. across the street from the Johnson > residence on Grove Street. Yup.........I gotta agree with ya there.........you go to Geoffrey's/ OG LOC's house in Grove Street in 'House Party' ......after all WTF would a GSF OG being doing hanging with a brother from Los Flores.........thats a mixture of Vagos and Ballas turf! SignatureM Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? ...why, other guards, of course! Apparently, "03:15:38 GMT" <asik@mail.gr> wrote in news:vpidngu19fgv $.dlg@fun.no.all.at: > What's the deal with the Los Santos gangs in the video game "Grand > Theft Auto: San Andreas"? Since the character OG-Loke is a member of [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > help, LA gang experts. Which "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas" Los > Santos gang corresponds to which real life Los Angeles gang? Cultural discordance is always funny. Loc - Loco. Crib - your abode (your "cut"). CriP - Fashionistas in blue. LBC - City of Long Beach. Grape Street - L.A. Street/Territory/Crip? Set. Disputed, I'm sure. Punk a.s bloods. SignatureYou need to BeDoper http://www.bedoper.com 187 All Cops http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/news/video/taser_video3a.html Gortician - 1000 Days in Sodom (Venom Cover) with Jeremy of Despondency http://www.mindspring.com/~jackiv/gort_1kdays.zip > Apparently, "03:15:38 GMT" <asik@mail.gr> wrote in news:vpidngu19fgv > $.dlg@fun.no.all.at: [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > Grape Street - L.A. Street/Territory/Crip? Set. Disputed, I'm sure. grape street are bloods if i remember correctly... > Punk a.s bloods. that would be slobs if you were a ricket... :-) >> Apparently, "03:15:38 GMT" <asik@mail.gr> wrote in news:vpidngu19fgv >> $.dlg@fun.no.all.at: [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > grape street are bloods if i remember correctly... Rhyme Pays was a long time ago. >> Punk a.s bloods. > > that would be slobs if you were a ricket... :-) 'Slobs' is such an uncouth word. SignatureYou need to BeDoper http://www.bedoper.com 187 All Cops http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/news/video/taser_video3a.html Gortician - 1000 Days in Sodom (Venom Cover) with Jeremy of Despondency http://www.mindspring.com/~jackiv/gort_1kdays.zip |
Reply to this Message |
 Sign In
 Join
 My Latest Posts My Monitored Threads My Blog My Photo Gallery My Profile My Homepage Start New Thread Enable EMail Alerts Rate this Thread
|
©2009 Advenet LLC Privacy Policy - Terms of Use
This website includes both content owned or controlled by Advenet as well as content owned or controlled by third parties.