I know Dallas usually does stuff like this, but I couldn't help it.
(sorry D)
An F-16 is flying at Mach 1.2, when all of a sudden a Mig 29 pops up behind
him. (Hey! It could happen!)
The F-16 pilot doesn't feel like having a dogfight, so he figures some
hotshot piloting will fix that Ruskis wagon.
The Falcon pilot quickly goes over a series of daring manoeuvres in his
mind. First he'll do a 135 degree right roll followed by a firm pull of the
stick, then a 45 degree left roll to level out. Next he'll perform a high
speed Immelmann turn immediately followed by a Split-S.
So he goes for it.
With the Mig 29 still right behind him the F-16 pilot does the 135 degree
right roll and pulls the stick firmly towards him.
What happens next?
a) the pilot becomes unconcious due to heavy G's
b) the left wing breaks off
c) the right wing breaks off
d) nothing. The Falcon pilot shakes off the Mig like he hoped.

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Vic Baron - 26 Aug 2008 21:11 GMT
All of the above!
> I know Dallas usually does stuff like this, but I couldn't help it.
> (sorry D)
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> c) the right wing breaks off
> d) nothing. The Falcon pilot shakes off the Mig like he hoped.
Marcel Kuijper - 27 Aug 2008 19:34 GMT
> All of the above!
How often to you go to Vegas, Vic? ;-)

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Andrew B - 26 Aug 2008 21:21 GMT
> I know Dallas usually does stuff like this, but I couldn't help it.
> (sorry D)
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> c) the right wing breaks off
> d) nothing. The Falcon pilot shakes off the Mig like he hoped.
My possible answers :-
1. He does the 45 degree left roll to level out.
2. The Rusky matches him move for move and the pair level out together
precisely along the airshow flight line.
3. Air traffic Control starts shouting in both their ears.
4. This program has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down.
Of course I am probably very wrong with all of them... sorry :-)

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Marcel Kuijper - 27 Aug 2008 19:34 GMT
> 4. This program has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down.
LOL!!!

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TOCA - 26 Aug 2008 21:54 GMT
> What happens next?
>
> a) the pilot becomes unconcious due to heavy G's
> b) the left wing breaks off
> c) the right wing breaks off
> d) nothing. The Falcon pilot shakes off the Mig like he hoped.
a) Not likely as all F-16 pilots are trained to endure up till 9G, and the
in flight Computer does not allow the plane to pull more than 9G.
b) F-16 is designed to endure a lot more than 9G, and the in flight Computer
etc.
c) See b)
d) Depends on the MIG pilots intentions ;o)
I'm leaning heavily towards d) because if the MIG pilot had intended to
shoot down the F-16, a misile would have been fired long before the Falcon
pilot spotted the opponent ;o)
Tommy C, Denmark
Marcel Kuijper - 27 Aug 2008 19:37 GMT
>> "Marcel Kuijper" wrote:
>> What happens next?
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> a) Not likely as all F-16 pilots are trained to endure up till 9G, and the
> in flight Computer does not allow the plane to pull more than 9G.
Hey look at that! Some reason after all.....
> b) F-16 is designed to endure a lot more than 9G, and the in flight Computer
> etc.
> c) See b)
Sure, but how about a sudden hard pull of the stick at that speed? Wouldn't
that be greater than 9G? Computer or not, could stress cause metal fatigue
in these kind of conditions?
> d) Depends on the MIG pilots intentions ;o)
>
> I'm leaning heavily towards d) because if the MIG pilot had intended to
> shoot down the F-16, a misile would have been fired long before the Falcon
> pilot spotted the opponent ;o)
That's not how it happened in Top Gun! :-))

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TOCA - 28 Aug 2008 11:52 GMT
>>> "Marcel Kuijper" wrote:
>>> What happens next?
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> that be greater than 9G? Computer or not, could stress cause metal fatigue
> in these kind of conditions?
Nope, remember that F-16 pilots are only co-pilots, they tell the computer
what they want, and the computer tells them what they can do. Full movement
of the joystick in a F-16 is about 1 cm, compined with force censors, the
harder you pull/push the more the computer will push the envolope, up untill
+9G, and some negatives, within the limits of the A/C and what a top pilot
is supposed to be capable of.
>> d) Depends on the MIG pilots intentions ;o)
>>
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>
> That's not how it happened in Top Gun! :-))
There were F-16's in Top Gun?? :o/
The Top Gun manoeuvre is pulling the handbrake and do a 360, which will
bring you right on the tail of the instructor ;o)
Tommy C, Denmark
Vernon Balbert - 26 Aug 2008 23:17 GMT
On 8/26/2008 10:35 AM, Marcel Kuijper went clickity clack on the
keyboard and produced this interesting bit of text:
> I know Dallas usually does stuff like this, but I couldn't help it.
> (sorry D)
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> c) the right wing breaks off
> d) nothing. The Falcon pilot shakes off the Mig like he hoped.
Time runs out and he gets out of the arcade machine and goes to get more
change so he can try again.

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Marcel Kuijper - 27 Aug 2008 20:35 GMT
>> "Marcel Kuijper" wrote:
>> What happens next?
>
> Time runs out and he gets out of the arcade machine and goes to get more
> change so he can try again.
<sigh>
Californians!
I take it you're a Magic Mountain regular? :-)

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Vernon Balbert - 27 Aug 2008 21:28 GMT
On 8/27/2008 12:35 PM, Marcel Kuijper went clickity clack on the
keyboard and produced this interesting bit of text:
>>> "Marcel Kuijper" wrote:
>>> What happens next?
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Californians!
> I take it you're a Magic Mountain regular? :-)
Actually, no. I don't particularly care for Magic Mountain. I'm more
of a Disneyland guy.

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Tom Garrett - 26 Aug 2008 23:55 GMT
> I know Dallas usually does stuff like this, but I couldn't help it.
> (sorry D)
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> c) the right wing breaks off
> d) nothing. The Falcon pilot shakes off the Mig like he hoped.
What's his altitude? If he's flying low level, he just became a lawn dart.
Tom in Tucson
Marcel Kuijper - 27 Aug 2008 19:33 GMT
> What's his altitude? If he's flying low level, he just became a lawn dart.
Okay. Let's say he's at FL500.

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John Ward - 27 Aug 2008 20:13 GMT
Hi Studmuffin,
Whatever happens, it serves him right for flying an F-16 - he should
have been flying a Spitfire, or a P-51 D or H.
Just my opinion - sorry Loek! :-))
Regards,
John Ward
> I know Dallas usually does stuff like this, but I couldn't help it.
> (sorry D)
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> c) the right wing breaks off
> d) nothing. The Falcon pilot shakes off the Mig like he hoped.
Loek - 27 Aug 2008 22:46 GMT
:-)
Fine, I'll remember that! No hints for you on this one then.....
Loek
> Hi Studmuffin,
>
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>> c) the right wing breaks off
>> d) nothing. The Falcon pilot shakes off the Mig like he hoped.
Crash Lander - 28 Aug 2008 01:42 GMT
I'm going to have to say D I think.
The F-16 pilot would be trained to handle high G's, and he would be fully
aware of what G's would be involved as soon as he considered the manoeuvre,
and would not have done it if he did not think he could handle it. You need
to remember he thought about his move before actioning it, he didn't just
act without thinking.
B and C seem unlikely again, because the F-16 pilot would know his a/c
stress capabilities, and again, considering he thought out his manoeuvre
first, he would not have considered anything he had either not done before,
or knew the a/c could not handle.
The only logical answer that is available for selection, is D.
Crash Lander

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> I know Dallas usually does stuff like this, but I couldn't help it.
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> c) the right wing breaks off
> d) nothing. The Falcon pilot shakes off the Mig like he hoped.
Dallas - 28 Aug 2008 04:56 GMT
> I know Dallas usually does stuff like this, but I couldn't help it.
Great... we need more thought provoking pokes in the ribs.

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