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Erik Selde - 11 Jul 2008 21:57 GMT
Greetings all...

I have FSX, but haven´t used it before...too slow a computer.....however, I
was wondering are there any particular way to set the sliders that will make
it possible to use with a slower computer and still be able to enjoy some of
the FSX´ magnificant graphics etc...???

.....and will I be able to use my King Air 200 and ATR bought for FS9 in FSX
and how is it done??

I know I know......gotta have a faster computer soon........:-))

Thanks
Erik
Vernon Balbert - 11 Jul 2008 22:17 GMT
On 7/11/2008 1:57 PM, Erik Selde went clickity clack on the keyboard and
produced this interesting bit of text:
> Greetings all...
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> I know I know......gotta have a faster computer soon........:-))

Without knowing the specifics of your computer it's hard to give a
definitive answer.  But you can experiment to see what results you have.
 Start out with the sliders set to the minimum and increase them as
desired to see what your results are.

As for the a/c you bought for FS9, you'll have to contact the people who
made them.  Some can be brought over no problem, others need a little
tweaking and some just can't be adapted.  One of the major stumbling
blocks is that FS9 and FSX have different directory structures and so
files aren't in the same place.

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Brett I. Holcomb - 11 Jul 2008 22:30 GMT
What are your computer specs?  I ran FSX on an AMD Athlon 2 gig with a
BFG 7600 AGP card but there were some missions I couldn't do - adding
the 7600 helped.

The best thing for me was replacing the 10 year old system with a new
quad core with plenty of memory and an 8800 Ultra <G>.

>Greetings all...
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>Thanks
>Erik
Erik Selde - 11 Jul 2008 23:10 GMT
My Specs are..:

AMD Athlon 64
Processor 3000+
Nvidia GForce FX 5500
1,5 GIG RAM
Win XP
> What are your computer specs?  I ran FSX on an AMD Athlon 2 gig with a
> BFG 7600 AGP card but there were some missions I couldn't do - adding
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>>Thanks
>>Erik
Brett I. Holcomb - 11 Jul 2008 23:20 GMT
The video card isn't going to cut it.

>My Specs are..:
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>>>Thanks
>>>Erik
Erik Selde - 11 Jul 2008 23:37 GMT
I figured that, but I´m not going to upgrade on my current system....I´ll
have another computer then....
> The video card isn't going to cut it.
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>>>>Thanks
>>>>Erik
mdavis - 11 Jul 2008 23:44 GMT
If that card has 256meg of RAM, it will be OK.  I ran an FX5900 for a couple
of years on a Pentium 4 hyperthreaded machine with no problems except that I
had sliders pulled waaaay back  It will run, but my older FS2004 setup with
loads of scenery upgrades (FS Genesis terrain mesh, Ultimate Terrain,
ActiveSky, etc.) ran better than the equivalent settings on FSX.  No
question FSX is better, but it's only better IF you can run the sliders
midway or better.  It also depends on the resolution and size of your
monitor.  The more pixels your graphics card is pushing, the slower it runs,
so don't expect to run higher than 1024x768.  If you pull sliders way back,
you lose the eye candy you went after.  Flight Simulator programs are CPU
dependent, so the graphics card is not as important as the CPU speed.
Dallas - 11 Jul 2008 23:01 GMT
> .....and will I be able to use my King Air 200 and ATR bought for FS9 in FSX
> and how is it done??

ATR will run in FSX..  I don't know if the upgrade is free.

The Aeroworx King Air will not run in FSX, and that is one of the reasons I
never felt the need to upgrade my hardware for FSX.

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Nicik Name - 12 Jul 2008 03:30 GMT
> Greetings all...
>
> I have FSX, but haven´t used it before...too slow a computer.....however,
> I was wondering are there any particular way to set the sliders that will
> make it possible to use with a slower computer and still be able to enjoy
> some of the FSX´ magnificant graphics etc...???
NO............

> .....and will I be able to use my King Air 200 and ATR bought for FS9 in
> FSX and how is it done??
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> Thanks
> Erik
Dauphin de Viennois - 13 Jul 2008 21:05 GMT
> Greetings all...
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> Thanks
> Erik

If you have to turn the graphics sliders down then what is the point of
getting FSX over FS9? Only real benefit to FSX is the eye candy. And with
FSX you have to deal with activation, something I am not a fan of at all.
mdavis - 13 Jul 2008 23:52 GMT
FSX at low settings is better than FS9 at medium-high settings using the
default scenery.  The main advantage to FSX is the terrain mesh which has a
closer sampling grid.  Now if you installed a lot of scenery add-ons to FS9
such as FS Genesis terrain mesh, Ultimate Terrain, Scenery Tech or other
enhancements, you might be better off with FS9.  But out of the box, FSX
wins hands down even at low settings.

Activation is painless.  I have FSX installed on both of my home computers
although I never run it anymore on the old Pentium 4 HT machine.  No
problems when I built and installed FSX on my new quad core.  It phoned
Microsoft and installed with no problems.
Dauphin de Viennois - 15 Jul 2008 01:58 GMT
> FSX at low settings is better than FS9 at medium-high settings using
> the default scenery.

Not going by the screenshots I have seen. They look pretty much the same at
those settings.

The main advantage to FSX is the terrain mesh
> which has a closer sampling grid.

How much closer? Is it better than X-Plane9 terrain mesh? X-Plane9 uses
just over 70GB HDD space if you want to install the whole world because of
the quality of its terrain mesh.

> Activation is painless.  

Not when it first came out. Lots of people had issues installing FSX.
Activating the OS is one thing but when I have to activate all my games too
then that is the day I will stop buying new games. Does the activation at
least allow you to run the game without having to put the DVD in the drive?
If not then it gives me no benefit at all. I can run FS2004 with no disk in
the drive and that's how I like it.
Don - 15 Jul 2008 02:07 GMT
>> FSX at low settings is better than FS9 at medium-high settings using
>> the default scenery.
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> the drive and that's how I like it.

I can state , from what I perceived having FS9 and FSX on my system at one
time, FSX with no autogen and min graphics, looked way better to me than FS9
with full autogen and graphics. Both of these default installs, no add-ons.
FS9 no longer is on my hard drive. FSX just looks way better, and feels
better, to me. I am sure, there are folks that have some very good add-ons
in FS9, that bring it more up to FSX type graphics, but imho there is a huge
difference in the stock installations.

I also, have never had an issue with activation, I even have the same copy
installed on two different drives, one in XP Pro, one in Vista 64 bit
Ultimate, both activated and no issue, on my system.
And no, no need for the dvd in the drive, which is nice.

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mdavis - 15 Jul 2008 04:02 GMT
The only way to run FS2004 without the CD in the drive is to "cheat" with an
unauthorized patch.  FSX runs without the DVD when you register the program.

I know nothing of X-Plane.  One cannot compare graphics based on the
relative hard drive space occupied by the two programs as the formats and
compression algorithms are different.
Dauphin de Viennois - 16 Jul 2008 09:32 GMT
> The only way to run FS2004 without the CD in the drive is to "cheat"
> with an unauthorized patch.  FSX runs without the DVD when you
> register the program.

It's not cheating, it's running the game I paid for how I want to run it.
Doesn't matter as I bought a 4870 last week and Tom's Hardware says FSX
runs poorly on that video card. See the thread I made about it today.
Unless it is a driver issue there is no way I want to run FSX on this vid
card. Hopefully it is just a driver issue though and gets fixed.
Slap - 16 Jul 2008 13:34 GMT
> Doesn't matter as I bought a 4870 last week and Tom's Hardware says FSX
> runs poorly on that video card. See the thread I made about it today.
> Unless it is a driver issue there is no way I want to run FSX on this vid
> card. Hopefully it is just a driver issue though and gets fixed.

Take the card back and get one that works.
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dave
mdavis - 16 Jul 2008 23:34 GMT
You're right.  I'll change my wording.  It is unauthorized.  The question is
then, is unauthorized cheating or just plain dishonest according to the
EULA.  You're supposed to read the EULA and if you don't agree with it's
terms, abort the installation.  There are a lot of programs that don't run
"the way I want them to run" but that doesn't authorize me to run them in
violation of the user's agreement.
 
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