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W. Blaine Dowler - 13 Jun 2004 13:58 GMT
Hi all,

I'm trying to pay off O'Aka's debt before I get to the Zanarkand hot spot.
(35,000 down, 65,000 to go.  It'll take about 10 more hours, if I can keep
pilfering from the Tonberries on Mushroom Rock Road.)  I'm concerned
because it looks like I'll be able to completely stock up on everything he
sells and still have some of his debt to pay off.  Will he start carrying
new stock any time soon, or will I have to sell off my merchandise to other
dealers to make room for more from him?

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Lars M. Hansen - 13 Jun 2004 14:34 GMT
On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 12:58:51 GMT, W. Blaine Dowler spoketh

>Hi all,
>
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>new stock any time soon, or will I have to sell off my merchandise to other
>dealers to make room for more from him?

He doesn't get any new merchandize until much later in the game, so
you'll have to keep buying what he has, and sell it to other dealers
(such as barkeep just across the room). Once you've bought 100,000 gil
worth of stuff, he'll still only have the same junk, but at a very
discounted price, so you can buy from him, and sell to barkeep for a
profit, thus regaining much of the gil you spend on repaying his debt.

Lars M. Hansen
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W. Blaine Dowler - 13 Jun 2004 16:57 GMT
> Once you've bought 100,000 gil
> worth of stuff, he'll still only have the same junk, but at a very
> discounted price, so you can buy from him, and sell to barkeep for a
> profit, thus regaining much of the gil you spend on repaying his debt.

So I've noticed.  :)

I got lucky with the Tonberries, and paid off his debt in three hours.  Now
I've got over 300,000 gil, and a key to save up for.  I've never seen a
Final Fantasy game where gil was this easy to come by.

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Lars M. Hansen - 13 Jun 2004 19:04 GMT
On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:57:19 GMT, W. Blaine Dowler spoketh

>> Once you've bought 100,000 gil
>> worth of stuff, he'll still only have the same junk, but at a very
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>I've got over 300,000 gil, and a key to save up for.  I've never seen a
>Final Fantasy game where gil was this easy to come by.

Don't worry about buying the key. You can get it for free later in the
cave down in the ravine by the Calm lands (just before you get to the
mountain).

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W. Blaine Dowler - 13 Jun 2004 19:21 GMT
> Don't worry about buying the key. You can get it for free later in the
> cave down in the ravine by the Calm lands (just before you get to the
> mountain).

I'm sure that it's insanely overpriced at the start of the game because some
story event will drag the price down later.  I'm also sure it'll give me
access to something I'm not expected to have access to for quite some time,
though, so it's well worth the 15-20 minutes of buying from O'aka and
selling to the barkeep.  :)

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Lars M. Hansen - 14 Jun 2004 00:30 GMT
On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 18:21:55 GMT, W. Blaine Dowler spoketh

>> Don't worry about buying the key. You can get it for free later in the
>> cave down in the ravine by the Calm lands (just before you get to the
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>though, so it's well worth the 15-20 minutes of buying from O'aka and
>selling to the barkeep.  :)

SPOILER WARNING.
If you don't want to know what the Besaid key will get you, don't read
any further.
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It gives you access to another cave on Besaid with fiends you probably
shouldn't expect to beat until later in the game anyways. The "price" at
the end is, if memory serves, another garment grid...

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Ramen Junkie - 14 Jun 2004 19:37 GMT
> > Don't worry about buying the key. You can get it for free later in the
> > cave down in the ravine by the Calm lands (just before you get to the
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> though, so it's well worth the 15-20 minutes of buying from O'aka and
> selling to the barkeep.  :)

What you really need to save up for is the exclusive Garment Grid you get
for completing the PR Mission from the calm lands.  If you get a level 5 Pr
rank you get a story sequence then you can buy one of two Garment Grids
(depending on which company you sided with).  They are 2 million gil each
(200,000 GP).  I suppose you could always play the games and Win the 200,000
Points but it's a lot easier to just buy them.
--
Ramen Junkie

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RRViper - 15 Jun 2004 04:23 GMT
<snip>

> What you really need to save up for is the exclusive Garment Grid you get
> for completing the PR Mission from the calm lands.  If you get a level 5 Pr
> rank you get a story sequence then you can buy one of two Garment Grids
> (depending on which company you sided with).  They are 2 million gil each
> (200,000 GP).  I suppose you could always play the games and Win the 200,000
> Points but it's a lot easier to just buy them.

Just a question, as I've tried this but haven't made it to chapter 5 (yet)
to answer my own question:

I already have Open Air over 800 points though I lost half when I switched
over to Argent ( at the beginning of chapter 2), so I'll still have 400,
making it max out at level 5.  At the rate I'm going I know I'll max Argent
out at levl 5 and definitely over 400 points as well.  So will this unlock
both of them at maximum when they combine, and will I be able to access all
the items that each will have?

To be honest it wasn't that difficult, especially after paying off O'aka's
debt, maybe 5 hours total and mastering the thief class on all 3 as a
result.

laters

RRViper
(but man am I taking this slow overall)
Ramen Junkie - 15 Jun 2004 07:49 GMT
> <snip>
>
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> both of them at maximum when they combine, and will I be able to access all
> the items that each will have?

I don't know.  Possibly.  It's also possible that it will default to the one
with the most points.
--
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Zohar Gilboa - 29 Jun 2004 00:41 GMT
>On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:57:19 GMT, W. Blaine Dowler spoketh
>
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>>I've got over 300,000 gil, and a key to save up for.  I've never seen a
>>Final Fantasy game where gil was this easy to come by.

Actually, I got almost 2 million gil by the time I finished FFTA...

Zohar "No, not the infinite power source" Gilboa
DJ Saltynuts - 29 Jun 2004 08:57 GMT
> >>> Once you've bought 100,000 gil
> >>> worth of stuff, he'll still only have the same junk, but at a very
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>
> Zohar "No, not the infinite power source" Gilboa

Lucky you, did you have fun with it

laters

Dj
Ramen Junkie - 14 Jun 2004 19:33 GMT
> On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 12:58:51 GMT, W. Blaine Dowler spoketh
>
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> discounted price, so you can buy from him, and sell to barkeep for a
> profit, thus regaining much of the gil you spend on repaying his debt.

Keep in mind this is a VERY slow way of earning gil.  Sure you don't have to
hassle with battles but I imagine the actual return is close to the same.  I
think it took me an hour to earn a measly million or some sh.t.
--
Ramen Junkie

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W. Blaine Dowler - 15 Jun 2004 04:46 GMT
> Keep in mind this is a VERY slow way of earning gil.  Sure you don't have
> to hassle with battles but I imagine the actual return is close to the
> same.  I think it took me an hour to earn a measly million or some sh.t.

This takes about a minute to get 17,000 Gil.  Having just barely started
Chapter 2, that makes it the best return per minute I have access to.  The
next runner up is pilfering ~1,000 Gil from a Tonberry, but they're rare,
so the hourly rate is lower.

It took me three hours to get 100,000 Gil from the best paying battles I can
get to (without actually going to the desert or Zanarkand.)  It took about
20 minutes to earn triple that buying and selling.  I've no doubt that
there will be better options near the end of the game, but at this stage,
few battle pay more than 200 Gil.

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Ramen Junkie - 15 Jun 2004 07:50 GMT
> > Keep in mind this is a VERY slow way of earning gil. Sure you don't have
> > to hassle with battles but I imagine the actual return is close to the
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> there will be better options near the end of the game, but at this stage,
> few battle pay more than 200 Gil.

Yeah I suppose early on it's more beneficial.  I don't think I started doing
it till pretty late.  Fighting also gives the benefit of exp and AP
--
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John Hunter - 18 Jun 2004 04:05 GMT
> I'm trying to pay off O'Aka's debt before I get to the Zanarkand hot spot.
> (35,000 down, 65,000 to go.  It'll take about 10 more hours, if I can keep
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> new stock any time soon, or will I have to sell off my merchandise to other
> dealers to make room for more from him?

I got 200,000 gil in 1 minute really easily...
I went to Guadosalam and bought and sold data (saving between each success)
One of the data item clues the vendor gave was "This is the last person
you'd expect to buy this data"
I thought, well that would be you. Why sell me the data then buy it back for
ten times as much?
Since I'd just saved it I thought whatthehell. Sure enough, the vendor
bought it back off me. Easy money!
You may need to keep restarting the game until this randomly comes up
Or maybe it appeared because I got the other two clues right first time. I
dunno
 
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