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Why is it so difficult to find Final Fantasy VII?

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Bill Jillians - 10 Apr 2006 07:26 GMT
I'm a bit of a retro gamer (Ultima series/ recent Zorks) and I've heard
good things about Final Fatasy VII.  Trouble is I'm having a lot of
difficulty finding a copy to play.  They seem to be really expensive
and I would want a good condition version of the game.  I play on PCs
and like to play games 5 years older or more (so I know my system will
be able to handle it easily - I have a P3-600MHz machine).

Is this game worth a lot now and will the price go up or come down with
time.  It seems to be a classic game and the demo I saw just blew me
away.  Amazing graphics.  Can anyone tell me more?

Cheers

Bill in the UK.
Rob Browning - 10 Apr 2006 17:28 GMT
>I'm a bit of a retro gamer (Ultima series/ recent Zorks) and I've heard
>good things about Final Fatasy VII.  Trouble is I'm having a lot of
>difficulty finding a copy to play.  They seem to be really expensive
>and I would want a good condition version of the game.  I play on PCs
>and like to play games 5 years older or more (so I know my system will
>be able to handle it easily - I have a P3-600MHz machine).

You'd be better off getting a Greatest Hits copy of the PSX version of
the game, which is easily available and only $20.  Use an emulator
like ePSXe, which should run reasonably on your machine if you don't
turn any graphics enhancements or such on.  Unfortunately the PSX
version isn't high-res like the PC version, making the graphics a lot
worse, but I'd be surprised if you could get the PC game to work
anyway; as is typical of the time, it wasn't a very good port.

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Denny Rivera - 11 Apr 2006 01:33 GMT
>>I'm a bit of a retro gamer (Ultima series/ recent Zorks) and I've heard
>>good things about Final Fatasy VII.  Trouble is I'm having a lot of
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> Rob
> ploovTeHSPaeMBLoKuR@charter.net

Well, I kinda know how you are feeling. I was searching ebay a few weeks
back to see if I could buy another copy of FF7 for my PC. I wanted to
protect a copy for all time. The one I was watching sold for $40.

I have to disagree with Rob saying that the PC port wasn't that great. For
the most part, if worked wonderful on my computer. I only had one bug near
the last CD which prevented me from playing the game, but that was due to
running a old computer. I ended up getting a new PC a few months later and
finished the game.

One advantage of getting the PC is the slightly better graphics and
translation. Also, people built save game editors for the PC game, which was
a fun bonus when playing it the second time around.

But these things are fairly minor in my opinion and isn't work the extra
$20. I say go to Game Stop or some other place that sells used games, get a
PS emulator and go at it.
Christian Grünwaldner - 20 Apr 2006 19:30 GMT
Denny Rivera schrieb:

> Well, I kinda know how you are feeling. I was searching ebay a few weeks
> back to see if I could buy another copy of FF7 for my PC. I wanted to
> protect a copy for all time. The one I was watching sold for $40.

I would be glad if it was that cheap here - the german version was sold
out too fast and no Re-Edition - so the game is on ebay for about 199
Euro (250 USD I guess...)
http://cgi.ebay.at/Final-Fantasy-VII-7-PC-NEU_W0QQitemZ5220925637QQcategoryZ8175
QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Sometimes there are some sets with just the CDs, no cover, no manual, no
box etc. and it's still selling for at least 50 EURO.
The official strategy guide is a lot harder to get and around 160 EURO
and up. I hate capitalism...

The english version (3rd or 4th Edition for PC) is a lot cheaper.
http://cgi.ebay.at/FINAL-FANTASY-7-als-PC-SPIEL_W0QQitemZ8785779844

Greetings from Austria
Free Rider - 04 May 2006 12:34 GMT
> Denny Rivera schrieb:
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Euro (250 USD I guess...)
> http://cgi.ebay.at/Final-Fantasy-VII-7-PC-NEU_W0QQitemZ5220925637QQcategoryZ8175
QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Really? I might make some money, then. :-)
I V - 12 Apr 2006 02:22 GMT
> turn any graphics enhancements or such on.  Unfortunately the PSX
> version isn't high-res like the PC version, making the graphics a lot
> worse, but I'd be surprised if you could get the PC game to work

Does the PC version actually have better graphics than you'ld get on a
PSX emulator? The PC port of FF8, if I remember right, uses the same
resolution for the pre-rendered stuff as the PSX version did. The 3D
graphics are higher resolution, but you could get that in ePSXe, no?
Rob Browning - 12 Apr 2006 19:33 GMT
>> turn any graphics enhancements or such on.  Unfortunately the PSX
>> version isn't high-res like the PC version, making the graphics a lot
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>resolution for the pre-rendered stuff as the PSX version did. The 3D
>graphics are higher resolution, but you could get that in ePSXe, no?

I imagine doing that with the PSX FF7 would bring the flaws of the
weaker graphics to sharper effect.  For example, I've played Wild ARMs
on ePSXe with a lot of the graphics enhancements turned on, and that
made it very easy to see the tile-based nature of the world map (which
was obscured by blur before).  At any rate, such enhancements would
slow down a P3 600.

Rob
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"If you're like me you haven't had a native born doctor since your
pediatrician, but with the way things have been going Johns Hopkins
is going to be opening franchises in Beijing and Calcutta. You're
going to have Indian dudes cracking jokes about their crazy-talking
American doctor, Paul Smith. There will be a class full of Chinese
kids scratching their heads as Jennifer Johnson tries to teach them
quantum physics. Why can't she just learn to speak Chinese?"
--Zack Parsons, Something Awful (April 3, 2006)

Mondo - 11 Apr 2006 18:56 GMT
> I'm a bit of a retro gamer (Ultima series/ recent Zorks) and I've heard
> good things about Final Fatasy VII.  Trouble is I'm having a lot of
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> time.  It seems to be a classic game and the demo I saw just blew me
> away.  Amazing graphics.  Can anyone tell me more?

and YOU DONT need TO KNOW PAL!! piece of SIHIT!!!! Sallemee have irsh
prick-JUST LIKE YOU!!!!! piece of SHITT!!
clairey - 12 Apr 2006 22:16 GMT
> I'm a bit of a retro gamer (Ultima series/ recent Zorks) and I've heard
> good things about Final Fatasy VII.  Trouble is I'm having a lot of
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Bill in the UK.

Hey im from the UK too, and I know that you can buy FF7 off ebay. You
can get it fairly cheap, I'd say that's the best place to look. And
it's well worth buying, as it's probably the best RPG ever made! :-)
spironical - 05 May 2006 09:40 GMT
> Is this game worth a lot now and will the price go up or come down with
> time.  It seems to be a classic game and the demo I saw just blew me
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Bill in the UK.

Once the movie (FF:Advent Children) hype dies down, FF-7 should drop to
less than half it's current price. (The least expensive used copy at
Amazon-US is now $67.00). If I were you, I would buy a $15.00 copy of
FF-8, and bide my time until the FF-7 sellers are forced to sober-up.
BTW, many FF gamers prefer FF-8 to FF-7...I don't, though.
Denny Rivera - 07 May 2006 19:21 GMT
>> Is this game worth a lot now and will the price go up or come down with
>> time.  It seems to be a classic game and the demo I saw just blew me
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> FF-8, and bide my time until the FF-7 sellers are forced to sober-up.
> BTW, many FF gamers prefer FF-8 to FF-7...I don't, though.

I don't see how you can claim more FF gamers prefer FF8 to 7. I've heard of
more nerdy shrines dedicated to FF7 than 8. I find your claim hard to
believe.
Darren Grey - 08 May 2006 11:22 GMT
"Denny Rivera" wrote...

> "spironical" <spironical@nospammail.net> wrote in message
>> Once the movie (FF:Advent Children) hype dies down, FF-7 should drop to
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> of more nerdy shrines dedicated to FF7 than 8. I find your claim hard to
> believe.

If you read what he said he specifies "many" not most.  And it's true,
though those that prefer FF8 tend not to be as obsessive as the FF7 crowd.

--
Grey
Free Rider - 09 May 2006 11:46 GMT
> "Denny Rivera" wrote...

>> I don't see how you can claim more FF gamers prefer FF8 to 7. I've heard
>> of more nerdy shrines dedicated to FF7 than 8. I find your claim hard to
>> believe.
>
> If you read what he said he specifies "many" not most.  And it's true,
> though those that prefer FF8 tend not to be as obsessive as the FF7 crowd.

Right answer. I prefer FF8 as well.
clairey - 11 May 2006 19:33 GMT
Hmm it's a hard choice, but ff8 just wins it for me. although ff7 is
still one of the best games ever.
Onideus Mad Hatter - 22 May 2006 04:35 GMT
>Hmm it's a hard choice, but ff8 just wins it for me. although ff7 is
>still one of the best games ever.

I hated FF7, I played it for like 30 minutes and was like, "Bored
now."

I dunno, maybe I was just jaded by the whole move to 3D, I'm all old
sk00l and all, but on the other hand I really liked 8 and 9.  *shrugs*
I liked the movie...maybe some day I'll give 7 another chance...think
I'll play 10 though before that...and Kingdom Hearts 2...hrmmm...well,
I'll put it somewhere on my list...down at the bottom.

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