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sdafasdfasf - 20 Feb 2006 20:22 GMT Holocaust Denier Gets Three Years By VERONIKA OLEKSYN, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
VIENNA, Austria - Right-wing British historian David Irving pleaded guilty Monday to denying the Holocaust and was sentenced to three years in prison, even after conceding he wrongly said there were no Nazi gas chambers at the Auschwitz concentration camp.
Irving, handcuffed and wearing a navy blue suit, arrived in court carrying a copy of one of his most controversial books - "Hitler's War," which challenges the extent of the Holocaust.
"I made a mistake when I said there were no gas chambers at Auschwitz," Irving told the court before his sentencing, at which he faced up to 10 years in prison.
He also expressed sorrow "for all the innocent people who died during the Second World War."
But he insisted he never wrote a book about the Holocaust, which he called "just a fragment of my area of interest."
"In no way did I deny the killings of millions of people by the Nazis," testified Irving, who has written nearly 30 books.
Irving's lawyer immediately announced he would appeal the sentence.
"I consider the verdict a little too stringent. I would say it's a bit of a message trial," Elmar Kresbach said.
Irving appeared shocked as the sentence was read. Moments later, an elderly man who identified himself as a family friend called out, "Stay strong, David! Stay strong!" before he was escorted from the courtroom.
Irving, 67, has been in custody since his November arrest on charges stemming from two speeches he gave in Austria in 1989 in which he was accused of denying the Nazis' extermination of 6 million Jews. He has contended that most of those who died at concentration camps such as Auschwitz succumbed to diseases such as typhus rather than execution.
The court convicted Irving after his guilty plea under the 1992 law, which applies to "whoever denies, grossly plays down, approves or tries to excuse the National Socialist genocide or other National Socialist crimes against humanity in a print publication, in broadcast or other media."
Irving's trial came amid new - and fierce - debate over freedom of expression in Europe, where the printing and reprinting of unflattering caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad has triggered deadly protests worldwide.
Kresbach said last month the controversial Third Reich historian was getting up to 300 pieces of fan mail a week from supporters around the world and was writing his memoirs in detention under the working title "Irving's War."
Irving was arrested Nov. 11 in the southern Austrian province of Styria on a warrant issued in 1989. He was charged under a federal law that makes it a crime to publicly diminish, deny or justify the Holocaust.
Irving had tried to win his provisional release on $24,000 bail, but a Vienna court refused, saying it considered him a flight risk.
Within two weeks of his arrest, he asserted through his lawyer that he had come to acknowledge the existence of Nazi-era gas chambers. Before the trial began, Irving told reporters he now acknowledges that the Nazis systematically slaughtered Jews during World War II.
"History is like a constantly changing tree," he said.
In the past, however, he has claimed that Adolf Hitler knew little if anything about the Holocaust, and he has been quoted as saying there was "not one shred of evidence" the Nazis carried out their "Final Solution" to exterminate the Jewish population on such a massive scale.
Vienna's national court, where the trial is being held, ordered the balcony gallery closed to prevent projectiles from being thrown down at the bench, the newspaper Die Presse reported Sunday.
It quoted officials as saying they were bracing for Irving's supporters to give him the Nazi salute or shout out pro-Hitler slogans during the trial.
In 2000, Irving sued American Holocaust scholar Deborah Lipstadt for libel in a British court but lost. The presiding judge in that case, Charles Gray, wrote that Irving was "an active Holocaust denier ... anti-Semitic and racist."
Irving has had numerous run-ins with the law over the years.
In 1992, a judge in Germany fined him the equivalent of $6,000 for publicly insisting the Nazi gas chambers at Auschwitz were a hoax.
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Johnny - 21 Feb 2006 00:00 GMT > Holocaust Denier Gets Three Years > By VERONIKA OLEKSYN, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 23 minutes ago [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > In 1992, a judge in Germany fined him the equivalent of $6,000 for publicly > insisting the Nazi gas chambers at Auschwitz were a hoax. In an American jurisdiction, such laws would run afoul of the First Amendment; but Europe, especially former Nazi states such a Germany and Austria, are very sensitive about the holocaust.
-Johnny (P.S. It wasn't just the Jews who were systematically exterminated. Slavic peoples were also fair game, and millions of them were murdered, too.)
Jeff Mayner - 21 Feb 2006 00:17 GMT >> Holocaust Denier Gets Three Years >> By VERONIKA OLEKSYN, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 23 minutes ago [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > systematically exterminated. Slavic peoples were also fair > game, and millions of them were murdered, too.) It should probably be pointed out that it wasn't just the Germans that were doing all that killing.
rjones@colby.edu - 21 Feb 2006 00:31 GMT > >> Holocaust Denier Gets Three Years > >> By VERONIKA OLEKSYN, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 23 minutes ago [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > It should probably be pointed out that it wasn't just the Germans that were > doing all that killing. Like a lot of those slavic people were killing each other. An ageless tradition among slavic peoples.
Johnny - 21 Feb 2006 00:36 GMT >>>Holocaust Denier Gets Three Years >>>By VERONIKA OLEKSYN, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 23 minutes ago [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > It should probably be pointed out that it wasn't just the Germans that were > doing all that killing. Yep. All sides made war on civilian populations. Neither the Russians nor the Japanese showed any mercy for civilians. And the fire-bombing of German and Japanese cities for the express purpose of killing civilians in order to reduce the labor supply and spread terror among the general population is one of many dark chapters in British and American History.
-Johnny (I am a fan of the America envisioned by the Constitution, and I applaud its phenomenal successes, but I am not proud of many of the methods my country has used to advance its interests.)
Venger - 21 Feb 2006 01:01 GMT > Yep. All sides made war on civilian populations. Neither the Russians > nor the Japanese showed any mercy for civilians. And the fire-bombing of [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > applaud its phenomenal successes, but I am not proud of many of the > methods my country has used to advance its interests.) We could all visit the framed US Constitution in the Antique Documents section of the Reichsbibliothek rather than "advance its interests" by bombing Germany and Japan...
Venger
travisgod@aol.cominyrface - 21 Feb 2006 19:20 GMT <<> -Johnny (I am a fan of the America envisioned by the Constitution, and I
> applaud its phenomenal successes, but I am not proud of many of the > methods my country has used to advance its interests.) We could all visit the framed US Constitution in the Antique Documents section of the Reichsbibliothek rather than "advance its interests" by bombing Germany and Japan...
Venger >>
Yeah, I am not really sure what his beef is with how we waged WW2. It is only a stupid, modern, like 90s thing to think that you should not bomb civilians, that the government or military is your only enemy. The government is the representative of the people.
For example, Palestine. They overwhelmingly voted Hamas; they made their statement. Hamas hasn't renounced its terrorism nor goal of the destruction of Israel. So, why SHOULDN'T Israel wage any war against the very people who ELECTED this government? The majority of Palestinians went to the polls and supported Hamas overwhelmingly. So, Hamas's actions are what the PEOPLE want! So, those same people are essentially combatants.
Now, Japan and Germany, ok, Hitler was elected...Hirohito wasn't. But, it was clear that both men had the full support of their respective countries. Merely because a person was not holding a gun and wearing a uniform does not absolve them of responsibility for their government's actions. The only way to truly defeat a nation is to force its populace to accede to your rule. Had we bombed every German tank and "military" target, what would that have accomplished? In the USSR, the military retreated into their cities, using the civilians as cover.
All-out war requires all-out tactics, including the wanton bombing of civilians. Eventually, they will choose to submit to you instead of supporting their native army.
Trav
will(from the reality based community) - 21 Feb 2006 20:38 GMT ><<> -Johnny (I am a fan of the America envisioned by the Constitution, >and I [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >destruction of Israel. So, why SHOULDN'T Israel wage any war against >the very people who ELECTED this government? Because Israel already defeated them militarily and has no interest in continuing to control them. Therefore, unless Israel wants to commit the same genocide that they would claim to detest and that many escaped themselves, they need to find another solution.
Ironic, isn't it?
Johnny - 21 Feb 2006 21:06 GMT > <<> -Johnny (I am a fan of the America envisioned by the Constitution, > and I [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Trav How to win a war boils down to a truism: Just keep killing them until they give up; and that includes the farmer who grows the food that feeds the soldiers. It just makes sense and it's not only acceptable in total war, it is advisable; but it is nothing to be proud of.
-Johnny (I'm not proud of killing the men I had to, and I haven't met a man who is.)
brink - 22 Feb 2006 00:51 GMT >> <<> -Johnny (I am a fan of the America envisioned by the Constitution, >> and I [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > -Johnny (I'm not proud of killing the men I had to, and I haven't met a > man who is.) Were you in the military?
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Johnny - 22 Feb 2006 08:12 GMT >>><<> -Johnny (I am a fan of the America envisioned by the Constitution, >>>and I [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > > brink U.S. Navy; enlisted 14 April 1958, honorably discharged 24 January 1967 with the rank of Petty Officer First Class (E-6).
brink - 22 Feb 2006 18:32 GMT >>>><<> -Johnny (I am a fan of the America envisioned by the Constitution, >>>>and I [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > U.S. Navy; enlisted 14 April 1958, honorably discharged 24 January 1967 > with the rank of Petty Officer First Class (E-6). Holy crap! you were in a long time.
My dad was a Lieutenant JG in the Navy in the early 70s... he enlisted (not sure that's the right word if you go in as an officer) and served on the USS Long Beach which was deployed in the Gulf of Tonkin, I believe. This was all before I came along.
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Johnny - 23 Feb 2006 00:48 GMT >>>>><<> -Johnny (I am a fan of the America envisioned by the Constitution, >>>>>and I [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > > brink I joined at age 17 (after dropping out of high school at age 15) to save myself when I saw so many of my fellow gang members from the street either getting killed or going to prison. I loved it - the travel, the adventures, the excitement of occasional danger, the camaraderie of shipmates, the satisfaction of duty to my country faithfully performed, the order and discipline, the pride and tradition, the security and chances for advancement, the opportunity to finish high school through correspondence courses.
During my last two years, when I was an instructor at Great Lakes, I moonlighted as a bartender and got to meet and hang out with a lot of college kids. When I saw how much fun college was, and since I had plenty of dough saved up and was single and carefree, I decided to leave the service and give college a whirl. I loved that, too.
-Johnny (Always fancy-free and free to follow my fancy.)
Rob Browning - 21 Feb 2006 21:12 GMT >Yeah, I am not really sure what his beef is with how we waged WW2. It >is only a stupid, modern, like 90s thing to think that you should not >bomb civilians, that the government or military is your only enemy. >The government is the representative of the people. Well, in theory, anyway.
You're right about everyone in WW2 Japan being a combatant, though.
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Darth Chaos - 21 Feb 2006 00:59 GMT > > Holocaust Denier Gets Three Years > > By VERONIKA OLEKSYN, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 23 minutes ago [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > systematically exterminated. Slavic peoples were also fair > game, and millions of them were murdered, too.) Of course there are some people who consider the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki to be holocausts as well...although the general consenus is that those bombings were "necessary evils".
Ever heard the Pink Floyd song "The Post-War Dream" (from _The Final Cut_)? To me, it sounded like Roger Waters was saying that if it weren't for the Japanese attacking America, there would be no such thing as nuclear weapons -
"If it wasn't for the nips, being so good at building ships, the yards would still be open on the clyde. And it can't be much fun for them beneath the rising sun, with all their kids committing suicide." (Maggie, what have we done?)
I'm not sure what ships the Japanese were good at building, but the "with all their kids committing suicide" obviously refers to the Kamikaze pilots who attacked Pearl Harbor.
Venger - 21 Feb 2006 01:04 GMT > I'm not sure what ships the Japanese were good at building, but the > "with all their kids committing suicide" obviously refers to the > Kamikaze pilots who attacked Pearl Harbor. There were no kamikaze pilots at Pearl Harbor. Kamikaze tactics were used late in the war when the tide turned so badly against Japan that traditional air-sea attacks were fruitless.
Venger
rjones@colby.edu - 21 Feb 2006 01:10 GMT > > I'm not sure what ships the Japanese were good at building, but the > > "with all their kids committing suicide" obviously refers to the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > late in the war when the tide turned so badly against Japan that traditional > air-sea attacks were fruitless. I don't know about any of that, but I would guess the song is really referring to the relatively high (modern) suicide rate in Japan.
Avenger - 21 Feb 2006 02:55 GMT >>> I'm not sure what ships the Japanese were good at building, but the >>> "with all their kids committing suicide" obviously refers to the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I don't know about any of that, but I would guess the song is really > referring to the relatively high (modern) suicide rate in Japan. I think you're right. The album is subtitled "A Requiem for the Post-War Dream", and most of the songs deal with events and situations in the aftermath of the war. The first part of the lines he quoted (snipped above, unfortunately), probably refer to Japan's booming economy after the restructuring by the USA and other "victorious" countries.
The song "Two Suns in the Sunset", though, is almost certainly about nuclear holocaust. In fact, the word "holocaust" is even used in the lyrics to that song. But the lyrics sing of a holocaust in the future, not in the past, so I think Waters was trying to say that if we don't smarten up re: nuclear weapons, we still have lots of chances to kill ourselves.
- Avenger
James Schrumpf - 21 Feb 2006 01:26 GMT Quiet, "Venger" <venger@augustmail.com> -- I'm transmitting rage.
>> I'm not sure what ships the Japanese were good at building, but the >> "with all their kids committing suicide" obviously refers to the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Venger Quiet, he's on a roll.
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Jeff Mayner - 21 Feb 2006 05:38 GMT >>> Holocaust Denier Gets Three Years >>> By VERONIKA OLEKSYN, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 23 minutes ago [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > "with all their kids committing suicide" obviously refers to the > Kamikaze pilots who attacked Pearl Harbor. Roger Waters has written some of the most powerful lyrics I have ever heard/read.
aborgman@redshark.goodshow.net - 21 Feb 2006 16:35 GMT In rec.sport.football.college Johnny <apterix@cox.net> wrote:
>> Holocaust Denier Gets Three Years >> By VERONIKA OLEKSYN, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 23 minutes ago [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > systematically exterminated. Slavic peoples were also fair > game, and millions of them were murdered, too.) ...and communists, homosexuals, mentally and physically handicapped, etc.
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stephenj - 24 Feb 2006 06:12 GMT > In rec.sport.football.college Johnny <apterix@cox.net> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > ...and communists, homosexuals, mentally and physically handicapped, etc. i went to that holocaust museum in washington DC. fascinating, and well worth it, but sheesh 98% of the content was about the murder of Jews. very misleading, and a museum designed to educate shouldn't mislead.
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rich hammett - 24 Feb 2006 07:08 GMT In rec.sport.football.college stephenj <sjek@cox.net> sanoi, hitaasti kuin hämähäkki:
>> In rec.sport.football.college Johnny <apterix@cox.net> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >> >> ...and communists, homosexuals, mentally and physically handicapped, etc.
> i went to that holocaust museum in washington DC. fascinating, and well > worth it, but sheesh 98% of the content was about the murder of Jews. > very misleading, and a museum designed to educate shouldn't mislead. You may have been there, but you apparently didn't learn anything. You can remedy that at their website, http://www.ushmm.org
Try starting with their mission statement. If you're smrat, that should set you straight.
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stephenj - 24 Feb 2006 13:50 GMT > In rec.sport.football.college stephenj <sjek@cox.net> sanoi, hitaasti kuin hämähäkki: > [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > Try starting with their mission statement. If you're smrat, that > should set you straight. ? their mission statement merely reflects what i criticized them for. the ushmm gives disproportionate attention to jewish victims of the holocaust, and that flows from their definition of the holocaust, which is contradictory:
"The Holocaust was the state-sponsored, systematic persecution and annihilation of European Jewry by Nazi Germany and its collaborators between 1933 and 1945. Jews were the primary victims – six million were murdered; Gypsies, the handicapped and Poles were also targeted for destruction or decimation for racial, ethnic, or national reasons."
if you're smrat, you'll grasp that in the first sentence they define the non-jewish victims of the holocaust out of existence, but then in the next sentence modify that by saying jews were the 'primary', therefore not only, victims.
the holocaust had about 11 million victims, 6 million of which were jewish. yet the ushmm devotes about 98% of its content to jewish victims.
that's misleading.
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Goro - 21 Feb 2006 13:26 GMT > Holocaust Denier Gets Three Years > By VERONIKA OLEKSYN, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 23 minutes ago [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > even after conceding he wrongly said there were no Nazi gas chambers at the > Auschwitz concentration camp. Mel Gibson's dad's name is David Irving?
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One of SportsBitch's Owners - 23 Feb 2006 02:59 GMT This is flipping ridiculous. I am as pro jew as the next person but it's totally an issue of free speech. I'll never visit austria! If I posted some of that stuff that I posted in Austria I'd be a prisonbitch by now!
Johnny - 23 Feb 2006 03:20 GMT > This is flipping ridiculous. I am as pro jew as the next person but > it's totally an issue of free speech. I'll never visit austria! If I > posted some of that stuff that I posted in Austria I'd be a > prisonbitch by now! Co-sign: "It's totally an issue of free speech." Freedom of Expression is the soil from which all other freedoms spring, including the Tree of Liberty itself, and without which all other freedoms wither and die.
-Johnny (Hearing things we don't like is the price we pay for being able to say things others don't like.)
mullah - 23 Feb 2006 20:24 GMT > Holocaust Denier Gets Three Years > By VERONIKA OLEKSYN, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 23 minutes ago [quoted text clipped - 86 lines] > > http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/football/ I find it ironic that people are still allowed to be members of communist parties, vocally support communism, wear che t-shirts, etc in Europe, even though bolshevik jews murdered more people than the nazis did.
Remembering Ukraine's Unknown Holocaust
[How the High Jews in the Soviet Government Killed Millions in the USSR and Still Hide It From Us...]
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>From the Toronto Sun - December 13, 1998 By ERIC MARGOLIS Contributing Foreign Editor
As Britain's socialist government cleared the way for a gaudy show trial of that Great Satan of the left, Chile's Gen. Augusto Pinochet, the 65th anniversary of this century's bloodiest crime was utterly ignored. Leftists now baying for Pinochet's head don't want to be reminded of the Unknown Holocaust.
In 1932, Soviet leader Josef Stalin unleashed genocide in Ukraine. Stalin determined to force Ukraine's millions of independent farmers - called kulaks - into collectivized Soviet agriculture, and to crush Ukraine's growing spirit of nationalism.
Faced by resistance to collectivization, Stalin unleashed terror and dispatched 25,000 fanatical young party militants from Moscow - earlier versions of Mao's Red Guards - to force 10 million Ukrainian peasants into collective farms. Secret police units of OGPU began selective executions of recalcitrant farmers.
When Stalin's red guards failed to make a dent in this immense number, OGPU was ordered to begin mass executions.
But there were simply not enough Chekists (secret police) to kill so many people, so Stalin decided to replace bullets with a much cheaper medium of death - mass starvation.
All seed stocks, grain, silage and farm animals were confiscated from Ukraine's farms. (Ethiopia's Communist dictator Mengistu Haile Mariam used the same method in the 1970s to force collectivization: the resulting famine caused one million deaths.)
OGPU agents and Red Army troops sealed all roads and rail lines. Nothing came in or out of Ukraine. Farms were searched and looted of food and fuel. Ukrainians quickly began to die of hunger, cold and sickness.
When OGPU failed to meet weekly execution quotas, Stalin sent henchman Lazar Kaganovitch to destroy Ukrainian resistance. Kaganovitch, the Soviet ZHID Eichmann, made quota, shooting 10,000 Ukrainians weekly. Eighty percent of all Ukrainian intellectuals were executed. A Ukrainian party member named Nikita Khruschchev helped supervise the slaughter.
During the bitter winter of 1932-33, mass starvation created by Kaganovitch and OGPU hit full force. Ukrainians ate their pets, boots and belts, plus bark and roots. Some parents even ate infant children.
The precise number of Ukrainians murdered by Stalin's custom-made famine and Cheka firing squads remains unknown to this day. The KGB's archives, and recent work by Russian historians, show at least seven million died. Ukrainian historians put the figure at nine million, or higher. Twenty-five percentof Ukraine's population was exterminated. Millions of victims
Six million other farmers across the USSR were starved or shot during collectivization. Stalin told Winston Churchill he liquidated 10 million peasants during the 1930s. Add mass executions by the Cheka in Estonia,Latvia and Lithuania; the genocide of three million Muslims in the USSR; massacres of Cossacks and Volga Germans and Soviet industrial genocide accounted for at least 40 million victims, not including 20 million war dead.
Kaganovitch and many senior OGPU officers (later, NKVD) were Jewish. The predominance of Jews among Bolshevik leaders, and the frightful crimes and cruelty inflicted by Stalin's Cheka on Ukraine, the Baltic states and Poland, led the victims of Red Terror to blame the Jewish people for both communism and their suffering. As a direct result, during the subsequent Nazi occupation of Eastern Europe, the region's innocent Jews became the target of ferocious revenge by Ukrainians, Balts and Poles.
While the world is by now fully aware of the destruction of Europe's Jews by the Nazis, the story of the numerically larger holocaust in Ukraine has been suppressed, or ignored. Ukraine's genocide occurred 8-9 years before Hitler began the Jewish Holocaust, and was committed, unlike Nazi crimes, before the world's gaze. But Stalin's murder of millions was simply denied, or concealed by a left-wing conspiracy of silence that continues to this day.
In the strange moral geometry of mass murder, only Nazis are guilty. Socialist luminaries like Bernard Shaw, Beatrice and Sidney Webb and PM Edouard Herriot of France, toured Ukraine during 1932-33 and proclaimed reports of famine were false. Shaw announced: "I did not see one under-nourished person in Russia." New York Times correspondent Walter Duranty, who won a Pulitzer Prize for his Russian reporting, wrote claims of famine were "malignant propaganda." Seven million people were dying around them, yet these fools saw nothing. The New York Times has never repudiated Duranty's lies.
Modern leftists do not care to be reminded their ideological and historical roots are entwined with this century's greatest crime - the inevitable result of enforced social engineering and Marxist theology.
Western historians delicately skirt the sordid fact that the governments of Britain, the U.S. and Canada were fully aware of the Ukrainian genocide and Stalin's other monstrous crimes. Yet they eagerly welcomed him as an ally during World War II. Stalin, who Franklin Roosevelt called "Uncle Joe," murdered four times more people than Adolf Hitler.
None of the Soviet mass murderers who committed genocide were ever brought to justice. Lazar Kaganovitch died peacefully in Moscow a few years ago, still wearing his Order of the Soviet Union, and enjoying a generous state pension.
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