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Joey Tenay - 07 Feb 2006 15:01 GMT "President Washington, President Lincoln, President Wilson, President Roosevelt have all authorized electronic surveillance on a far broader scale." -- AG Alberto Gonzalez at Senate hearings
http://movies.crooksandliars.com/gonzales-Washing.mov
Typical republican liar. So what kind of electronic surveillance was President Washington and Lincoln authorizing?
Pope Ominous the 69th - Love slave of GoGoGadget Girl - 07 Feb 2006 15:35 GMT what do ya expect? he's dummy wet back piece of dog sh.t that does and says whatever Dubya wants him to.. Hell. as long as you are white and told him to go lick your shoes clean that little coconut would do it. lol
unclejr - 07 Feb 2006 15:39 GMT > what do ya expect? he's dummy wet back piece of dog sh.t that does and > says whatever Dubya wants him to.. Hell. as long as you are white and > told him to go lick your shoes clean that little coconut would do it. > lol D00d, you have some real issues. HTH.
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Pope Ominous the 69th - Love slave of GoGoGadget Girl - 07 Feb 2006 15:42 GMT OrangeDood - 07 Feb 2006 20:13 GMT If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another five minutes, "Pope Ominous the 69th - Love slave of GoGoGadget Girl" <ominousman4life@gmail.com>!
> what do ya expect? he's dummy wet back piece of dog sh.t that > does and says whatever Dubya wants him to.. Hell. as long as > you are white and told him to go lick your shoes clean that > little coconut would do it. lol Feex hedder for joo
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Justin Pate - 07 Feb 2006 15:50 GMT >So what kind of electronic surveillance was > President Washington and Lincoln authorizing? Who knows. Someone from the SCTV newsgroup said that Napoleon had a fax machine, so if it were possilble for Napoleon to have a fax machine (WTF?) then I suppose Lincoln and Washington could have been engaging in electronic surveillance.
Not that I buy that, mind you......
Pope Ominous the 69th - Love slave of GoGoGadget Girl - 07 Feb 2006 15:52 GMT gay lil timmy shows us all why he wants to be my bf even he knows i am not gay but wishes so
~Îñ©üßü§~ - 07 Feb 2006 15:57 GMT >gay lil timmy shows us all why he wants to be my bf even he knows i am >not gay but wishes so Racist fag
unclejr - 07 Feb 2006 16:03 GMT > gay lil timmy shows us all why he wants to be my bf even he knows i am > not gay but wishes so Issues, d00d. Issues. HTH.
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Night Spirit - 07 Feb 2006 16:18 GMT >>So what kind of electronic surveillance was >> President Washington and Lincoln authorizing? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Not that I buy that, mind you...... Washington had people intercept messages from loyalists to the British army, Lincolin had telegraph lines sliced to intercept messages going to CSA. The principle is the same no matter medium used.
Bill Crawford - 07 Feb 2006 16:52 GMT "Night Spirit" <hipdale2@earthlink.net> wrote in news:2L3Gf.15069$vU2.3160 @newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net:
>>>So what kind of electronic surveillance was >>> President Washington and Lincoln authorizing? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > army, Lincolin had telegraph lines sliced to intercept messages going > to CSA. The principle is the same no matter medium used. Nobody's disputing the principle, thankfully. We're all focusing on the fact that the wording of the statement, however accurate, still made A.G. Gonzalez look...let's be polite and say not so good.
Then again, Quayleing REALLY seems to be in fashion this decade, so hey...
- bill, hulking up (the pointing stage) before legdropping a cold
TLG - 07 Feb 2006 21:43 GMT > >>So what kind of electronic surveillance was > >> President Washington and Lincoln authorizing?
> Washington had people intercept messages from loyalists to the British > army, Lincolin had telegraph lines sliced to intercept messages going > to CSA. The principle is the same no matter medium used. You're being rational -- which means a majority of the Left can't understand you.
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George Spelvin - 12 Feb 2006 14:14 GMT > Washington had people intercept messages from loyalists to the British > army, Lincolin had telegraph lines sliced to intercept messages going > to CSA. The principle is the same no matter medium used. Nice spin there.
By the way, Washington was not president then. In fact, there was no U.S. or constitution then.
Al Mundy - 12 Feb 2006 16:58 GMT > > Washington had people intercept messages from loyalists to the British > > army, Lincolin had telegraph lines sliced to intercept messages going [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > By the way, Washington was not president then. In fact, there was no > U.S. or constitution then. And no FISA
Michael - 12 Feb 2006 17:23 GMT >> > Washington had people intercept messages from loyalists to the British >> > army, Lincolin had telegraph lines sliced to intercept messages going [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > And no FISA Don't let the facts get in the way of a Republicon argument.
Al Mundy - 12 Feb 2006 17:43 GMT > >> > Washington had people intercept messages from loyalists to the British > >> > army, Lincolin had telegraph lines sliced to intercept messages going [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Don't let the facts get in the way of a Republicon argument. There is no republicon argument until they're caught red-handed. Seems to happen a lot, doesn't it?
Al Mundy - 12 Feb 2006 17:49 GMT > > "Al Mundy" <unknownr@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:%OJHf.12155$2O6.2581@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com... [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > There is no republicon argument until they're caught red-handed. Seems to > happen a lot, doesn't it? I just love this quote from Gonzales during the hearings. http://tinyurl.com/7fzjs
Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) said Bush had misled the public during a 2004 speech in Buffalo, N.Y., in which he sought to ease fears about the Patriot Act by stressing the role that courts played in authorizing wiretaps.
" 'Any time you hear the United States government talking about wiretap, it requires - a wiretap requires a court order,' " Feinstein quoted Bush as saying. " 'Nothing has changed, by the way. When we're talking about chasing down terrorists, we're talking about getting a court order before we do so.' "
"Mr. Attorney General, in light of what you and the president have said in the past month, this statement appears to be false," Feinstein said. "Do you agree?"
Gonzales said the statement was taken out of context, and that Bush was addressing a particular kind of wiretap.
"I take great issue with your suggestion that somehow the president of the United States was not being totally forthcoming with the American people," he responded. ------------------------------
So, Mr. Gonzales, I say Bush was not only "not being totally forthcoming", I say he was LYING to the American people. Do you care to sue me for slander?
SNORKY - 12 Feb 2006 18:23 GMT >There is no republicon argument until they're caught red-handed. Seems to >happen a lot, doesn't it? I did not have sex with that woman, Miss Lewinsky.
Al Mundy - 12 Feb 2006 19:33 GMT > >There is no republicon argument until they're caught red-handed. Seems to > >happen a lot, doesn't it? > > I did not have sex with that woman, Miss Lewinsky. "the president was talking only about "roving" wiretaps"....Gonzales, in front of a congressional investigation, even though the word "roving" never was mentioned in the original conversation.
"Who would have thought the levees would break?" G. Bush, 6 days after being told the levees could break, 2 days after they broke, and 18 months after studies showed the levees would break.
"Who knew they would fly planes into buildings?" Bush admin member C. Rice, 2 years after the NIE and FBI warned the white house (including Rice) that there were terrorist plans in place to hijack planes and fly them into buildings.
"Mission accomplished" G. Bush... a long, long time ago........
"We were given bad intelligence about WMD".. G. Bush, after proving he was given ZERO intelligence.
"We do not torture".. G. Bush, 2 weeks after torture is disclosed, 2 days before he starts campaign to let Americans do whatever they want to POWs.
Kinda makes the question of who had sex with who irrelevant, don't ya think? After all, Monica didn't even get an STD, while in the last few years, over 5000 Americans have died due to Bush's lies.
Al Mundy - 12 Feb 2006 19:37 GMT > > >There is no republicon argument until they're caught red-handed. Seems to > > >happen a lot, doesn't it? [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > After all, Monica didn't even get an STD, while in the last few years, over > 5000 Americans have died due to Bush's lies. And I nearly forgot:
"Anyone in this administration who broke the law by leaking classified info will be fired".. G. Bush, 3 months before it comes out that just about everyone in the admin is involved.
SNORKY - 12 Feb 2006 20:43 GMT >> >There is no republicon argument until they're caught red-handed. Seems to >> >happen a lot, doesn't it? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >front of a congressional investigation, even though the word "roving" never >was mentioned in the original conversation. But obviously that's what he WAS referring to.
>"Who would have thought the levees would break?" G. Bush, 6 days after >being told the levees could break, 2 days after they broke, and 18 months >after studies showed the levees would break. Yes, the debate on the levees had been going on for years, making that an accurate statement.
>"Who knew they would fly planes into buildings?" Bush admin member C. Rice, >2 years after the NIE and FBI warned the white house (including Rice) that >there were terrorist plans in place to hijack planes and fly them into >buildings. That is a question: she is asking "who knew"? Sounds like you knew but didn't tell.
>"Mission accomplished" G. Bush... a long, long time ago........ The mission was accomplished. Go back and look up what the mission was.
>"We were given bad intelligence about WMD".. G. Bush, after proving he was >given ZERO intelligence. He was most certainly given intel from Hosni Mubarek, Vladmir Putin, Tony Blair, and Israel.
>"We do not torture".. G. Bush, 2 weeks after torture is disclosed, 2 days >before he starts campaign to let Americans do whatever they want to POWs. There is no hard evidence of torture being policy, making that an accurate statement.
>Kinda makes the question of who had sex with who irrelevant, don't ya think? No, a POTUS lying under oath is never irrelevant. Only someone wanting "their guy" to get by with criminal activity would say that (which is the perfect juxtaposition to your distortions above).
>After all, Monica didn't even get an STD, while in the last few years, over >5000 Americans have died due to Bush's lies. That is a lie.
You have been caught red handed.
There is no Democrat argument until they're caught red-handed. Seems to happen a lot, doesn't it?
Al Mundy - 12 Feb 2006 21:17 GMT > >After all, Monica didn't even get an STD, while in the last few years, over > >5000 Americans have died due to Bush's lies. > > That is a lie. > > You have been caught red handed. If I have lied, then Bush must be guilty of about 3000 lies in the last week.
> There is no Democrat argument until they're caught red-handed. Seems > to happen a lot, doesn't it? Not since repugs took over.
Don't you think it odd that Gonzales's final defense for wiretapping "He is the commander in chief of the armed forces charged with defending our country" sounds EXACTLY like Saddam's "I don't recognize this court's authority, I am the president"????
Mike - 12 Feb 2006 21:34 GMT > Don't you think it odd that Gonzales's final defense for wiretapping "He > is > the commander in chief of the armed forces charged with defending our > country" sounds EXACTLY like Saddam's "I don't recognize this court's > authority, I am the president"???? I said both statements out loud in English and Spanish. No, they don't sound exactly alike. Not even close.
Al Mundy - 12 Feb 2006 21:45 GMT > > Don't you think it odd that Gonzales's final defense for wiretapping "He > > is [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > No, they don't sound exactly alike. > Not even close. They sound identical to me. Of course, I'm pretty good in english comprehension, while republicans usually are not..
Mike - 13 Feb 2006 15:04 GMT >> > Don't you think it odd that Gonzales's final defense for wiretapping >> > "He [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > They sound identical to me. Of course, I'm pretty good in english > comprehension, while republicans usually are not.. Your attempt at a witty comeback would work, if that was actually true. But then again, don't let the facts get in the way of a Democratic argument.
Al Mundy - 13 Feb 2006 16:06 GMT > >> > Don't you think it odd that Gonzales's final defense for wiretapping > >> > "He [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Your attempt at a witty comeback would work, if that was actually true. > But then again, don't let the facts get in the way of a Democratic argument. Trouble is that it wasn't a witty comeback. It was the truth. The two arguments are just about identical.
Mike - 16 Feb 2006 06:44 GMT >> >> > Don't you think it odd that Gonzales's final defense for wiretapping >> >> > "He [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Trouble is that it wasn't a witty comeback. It was the truth. The two > arguments are just about identical. Nope, trouble is I was making a joke but you are so caught up in your political dogma you couldn't see the sh.t from the shithole. so boring, yawn
OneTrueGod777@aol.com - 19 Feb 2006 02:17 GMT Who knew they would fly planes into buildings?" Bush admin member C. Rice, 2 years after the NIE and FBI warned the white house (including Rice) that there were terrorist plans in place to hijack planes and fly them into buildings.
what that context was was for buildings outside the US No one could fathom not me not you that someone woudl try that on US Soil. ANd if you did you are stupider than you sound
Al Mundy - 22 Feb 2006 15:06 GMT > Who knew they would fly planes into buildings?" Bush admin member C. > Rice, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > fathom not me not you that someone woudl try that on US Soil. ANd if > you did you are stupider than you sound What, is US soil sacred?
The FBI warned the white house that actions being taken by AlQ were "consistent" with possible plans to hijack planes and use them as weapons.
The FBI, in case you didn't know it, is limited to investigations ON US SOIL.
There's only 2 people here looking stupid, and Connie Rice is one of them.
George Spelvin - 15 Feb 2006 13:53 GMT The REAL quote is: "I did not have sexual relations with that woman . . . Miss Lewinsky."
And Clinton's deception doesn't excuse Bush's deception or Gonzales' sychophantic defense.
Furthermore, Clinton's bl.wj.b didn't infringe on anyone's rights.
And, in the end, Clinton admitted it. Bush never will.
So much for honesty and integrity.
Spike - 15 Feb 2006 14:39 GMT >The REAL quote is: "I did not have sexual relations with that woman . . >. Miss Lewinsky." [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Furthermore, Clinton's bl.wj.b didn't infringe on anyone's rights. It infringed on my rights. I have a right to have a secure Oval Office, uncompromised by deviant extra-marital sexual relations by a president and a potential Mata Hari.
Al Mundy - 15 Feb 2006 16:53 GMT > >The REAL quote is: "I did not have sexual relations with that woman . . > >. Miss Lewinsky." [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Office, uncompromised by deviant extra-marital sexual relations by a > president and a potential Mata Hari. then you must really be upset that you voted a Mata Hari into office, who leaks out secrets to fit his agenda.
Spike - 15 Feb 2006 17:10 GMT >> >The REAL quote is: "I did not have sexual relations with that woman . . >> >. Miss Lewinsky." [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >then you must really be upset that you voted a Mata Hari into office, who >leaks out secrets to fit his agenda. No, I'm not upset about voting for Bush at all. It was the right choice then, and it's the right choice now. How can I respect a man that can't even get the respect of his own wife? Teresa has gone back to just "Heinz" and has dropped the "Kerry" part altogether. She's probably gone back to referring to the late John Heinz as "my husband" again, too.
Al Mundy - 15 Feb 2006 17:41 GMT > >> >The REAL quote is: "I did not have sexual relations with that woman . . > >> >. Miss Lewinsky." [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > probably gone back to referring to the late John Heinz as "my husband" > again, too. I guess laura must be a real ditz if she respects GW.
Spike - 15 Feb 2006 18:55 GMT >> >> >The REAL quote is: "I did not have sexual relations with that woman . >. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > >I guess laura must be a real ditz if she respects GW. Um. Yeah, must be. Heaven forbid *any* wife respecting a man enough to use his last name only when it benefits them politically.
George Spelvin - 17 Feb 2006 16:29 GMT I know you do Spike. And I also have a right to have a secure Oval Office, uncompromised by lies, warentless wiretappings, leaking of classified information, cronyism, sanctioning of torture, and incompetence.
SNORKY - 12 Feb 2006 18:22 GMT >>> > Washington had people intercept messages from loyalists to the British >>> > army, Lincolin had telegraph lines sliced to intercept messages going [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Don't let the facts get in the way of a Republicon argument. If you did, you would see how wrong the Democrats are.
Lord Gow333, Foker of Destrucity!!! - 12 Feb 2006 18:36 GMT >>> > Washington had people intercept messages from loyalists to the British >>> > army, Lincolin had telegraph lines sliced to intercept messages going [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Don't let the facts get in the way of a Republicon argument. Like you guys would recognize facts...
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Unclaimed Mysteries - 12 Feb 2006 18:58 GMT George Spelvin wrote in part:
> By the way, Washington was not president then. In fact, there was no > U.S. or constitution then. That's just a theory. Were you THERE when it happened?
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:George Spelvin wrote in part: : :> By the way, Washington was not president then. In fact, there was no :> U.S. or constitution then. : :That's just a theory. Were you THERE when it happened? Ask J. Hugh.. he was there. ($1 Beauchamp)
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alicamdun@yahoo.com - 08 Feb 2006 00:16 GMT > "President Washington, President Lincoln, President Wilson, President > Roosevelt have all authorized electronic surveillance on a far broader [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Typical republican liar. So what kind of electronic surveillance was > President Washington and Lincoln authorizing? Racist.
-Tom Enright
Annika1980 - 08 Feb 2006 00:55 GMT > "President Washington, President Lincoln, President Wilson, President > Roosevelt have all authorized electronic surveillance on a far broader > scale." -- AG Alberto Gonzalez at Senate hearings Well we can't very well put them in jail now can we?
alicamdun@yahoo.com - 08 Feb 2006 00:56 GMT > > "President Washington, President Lincoln, President Wilson, President > > Roosevelt have all authorized electronic surveillance on a far broader > > scale." -- AG Alberto Gonzalez at Senate hearings
> Well we can't very well put them in jail now can we? Clinton is still running-around free.
-Tom Enright
cowboyzsucks@dallast.nul - 08 Feb 2006 03:03 GMT >"President Washington, President Lincoln, President Wilson, President >Roosevelt have all authorized electronic surveillance on a far broader [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Typical republican liar. So what kind of electronic surveillance was >President Washington and Lincoln authorizing? Dumbya had his head up his a.s on vibrate again. Better examine that for NATIONAL f.cking SECURITY.
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