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Singer Belafonte Calls Bush A Terrorist
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Freedom Fries - 10 Jan 2006 09:39 GMT Belafonte and Glover are true American Heroes. Repubs likes to call the murders in the American military heroes but these guys are the real deal. Hopefully they'll win a Nobel Peace Prize and get awared the Presidential Citizens Medal when a real President is in office.
Belafonte Calls Bush 'Greatest Terrorist'
By IAN JAMES, Associated Press Writer
01/08/06 "AP" -- -- The American singer and activist Harry Belafonte called President Bush "the greatest terrorist in the world" on Sunday and said millions of Americans support the socialist revolution of Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez.
Belafonte led a delegation of Americans including the actor Danny Glover and the Princeton University scholar Cornel West that met the Venezuelan president for more than six hours late Saturday. Some in the group attended Chavez's television and radio broadcast Sunday.
"No matter what the greatest tyrant in the world, the greatest terrorist in the world, George W. Bush says, we're here to tell you: Not hundreds, not thousands, but millions of the American people ... support your revolution," Belafonte told Chavez during the broadcast.
The 78-year-old Belafonte, famous for his calypso-inspired music, including the "Day-O" song, was a close collaborator of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. and is now a UNICEF goodwill ambassador. He also has been outspoken in criticizing the U.S. embargo of Cuba.
Chavez said he believes deeply in the struggle for justice by blacks, both in the U.S. and Venezuela.
"Although we may not believe it, there continues to be great discrimination here against black people," Chavez said, urging his government to redouble its efforts to prevent discrimination.
Belafonte accused U.S. news media of falsely painting Chavez as a "dictator," when in fact, he said, there is democracy and citizens are "optimistic about their future."
Dolores Huerta, a pioneer of the United Farm Workers labor union also in the delegation, called the visit a "very deep experience."
Chavez accuses Bush of trying to overthrow him, pointing to intelligence documents released by the U.S. indicating that the CIA knew beforehand that dissident officers planned a short-lived 2002 coup. The U.S. denies involvement, but Chavez says Venezuela must be on guard.
Copyright © 2006 The Associated Press.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11497.htm
Damon Scott Hynes - 10 Jan 2006 12:56 GMT > Belafonte and Glover are true American Heroes. Repubs likes to call the > murders in the American military heroes but these guys are the real deal. > Hopefully they'll win a Nobel Peace Prize and get awared the Presidential > Citizens Medal when a real President is in office. D00d, Yasser Arafat won a Nobel. So did Jimmy Carter. Case closed. Tool.
Dewey - 10 Jan 2006 16:30 GMT >> Belafonte and Glover are true American Heroes. Repubs likes to call >> the murders in the American military heroes but these guys are the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > D00d, Yasser Arafat won a Nobel. So did Jimmy Carter. Case closed. > Tool. I doubt you'd be singing this tune if Bush won it.
Damon Scott Hynes - 10 Jan 2006 16:42 GMT > > D00d, Yasser Arafat won a Nobel. So did Jimmy Carter. Case closed. > > Tool. > > I doubt you'd be singing this tune if Bush won it. Fat chance of that, but duh.
Dewey - 10 Jan 2006 17:30 GMT >> > D00d, Yasser Arafat won a Nobel. So did Jimmy Carter. Case closed. >> > Tool. >> >> I doubt you'd be singing this tune if Bush won it. > > Fat chance of that, but duh. Credit to you for admiting you are nothing more than a partisan shill.
JC Martin - 10 Jan 2006 16:59 GMT http://hrw.org/english/docs/2005/07/08/venezu11299.htm
rjones@colby.edu - 11 Jan 2006 01:43 GMT > http://hrw.org/english/docs/2005/07/08/venezu11299.htm http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=45807
http://www.boston.com/news/local/maine/articles/2006/01/10/state_provides_detail s_of_venezuelan_heating_oil_aid/
JC Martin - 10 Jan 2006 17:01 GMT > Belafonte and Glover are true American Heroes. Repubs likes to call the > murders in the American military heroes but these guys are the real deal. [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > "dictator," when in fact, he said, there is democracy and citizens are > "optimistic about their future." Chavez is a dictator, period. Pretty sad to watch Belefonte and Glover used for propaganda purposes.
Human rights and Chavez:
http://hrw.org/doc/?t=americas&c=venezu
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Dewey - 10 Jan 2006 17:31 GMT > Chavez is a dictator, period. Didn't he get elected?
Barry - 10 Jan 2006 17:45 GMT >>Chavez is a dictator, period. > > Didn't he get elected? so did Sadaam
Dewey - 10 Jan 2006 17:50 GMT >>>Chavez is a dictator, period. >> >> Didn't he get elected? > so did Sadaam so did Bush.
JC Martin - 10 Jan 2006 19:04 GMT >>>>Chavez is a dictator, period. >>> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > so did Bush. Did you read the human rights links I gave you on Chavez? I don't support Bush but he'll be gone in 3 years. Chavez is looking to be the next Castro and he's consolidating power in order to make his residence permanent.
-JC
Dewey - 10 Jan 2006 19:11 GMT >>>>>Chavez is a dictator, period. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > next Castro and he's consolidating power in order to make his residence > permanent. So is Putin. It's the wave of the future. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a terrorist attack on the US in October of 2008.
T_Hull - 10 Jan 2006 20:22 GMT > >>>>Chavez is a dictator, period. > >>> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > -JC Can't we assinate Chavez like we did Castr..... never mind....
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Dewey - 10 Jan 2006 20:24 GMT T_Hull <XXXthull1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in news:XXXthull1- 0BACBE.15220210012006@news-rdr-03.ohiordc.rr.com:
>> >>>>Chavez is a dictator, period. >> >>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Can't we assinate Chavez like we did Castr..... never mind.... We should invade and liberate the oil, er.... PEOPLE of Venezuela. They will welcome us as liberators with hugs and flowers.
George Spelvin - 11 Jan 2006 14:23 GMT Saddam didn't have any opponents. Chavez did. Both times.
bryguy58@sbcglobal.net - 10 Jan 2006 19:13 GMT >> Belafonte and Glover are true American Heroes. Repubs >> likes to call the murders in the American military [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > Chavez is a dictator, period. Pretty sad to watch > Belefonte and Glover used for propaganda purposes. And Bush is the leader of the "free world." And we live in a country with "justice and liberty for all." And the "muslims hate us, for our way of life."
A couple of facts: U.S. has more than two million citizens incarcerated. This represents approximately one quarter of all prisoners worldwide. In the U.S. people of color are hugely overrepresented in prison populations.
Not to mention our stellar record abroad in upholding human rights in the developing and Third World. . . .
Please. Recognize the hypocrisy and foolishnes of your statement in the context of the United States' own sorry record. At least Chavez is doing *something* for the poor masses of his country. Wish I could say the same about our "President."
> Human rights and Chavez: > > http://hrw.org/doc/?t=americas&c=venezu > > --- Tom Enright - 10 Jan 2006 19:54 GMT > And Bush is the leader of the "free world." And we live > in a country with "justice and liberty for all." And the [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > for the poor masses of his country. Wish I could say > the same about our "President." The hypocrisy and foolishness is in the fact that you, somehow, believe that because you dislike things about the United States it precludes others from commenting on other nations. Applying this 'logic' no person could comment about any country but their own.
Would you rather be poor in Venezeula or in the US?
-Tom Enright
rjones@colby.edu - 11 Jan 2006 01:45 GMT > > And Bush is the leader of the "free world." And we live > > in a country with "justice and liberty for all." And the [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Would you rather be poor in Venezeula or in the US? I'd rather be poor in the US because then Venezuela will donate me heating oil when the US cuts its heating programs to pay for wars and tax cuts, etc.
alicamdun@yahoo.com - 11 Jan 2006 02:52 GMT > > The hypocrisy and foolishness is in the fact that you, > > somehow, believe that because you dislike things [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > > > Would you rather be poor in Venezeula or in the US?
> I'd rather be poor in the US because then Venezuela will > donate me heating oil when the US cuts its heating programs > to pay for wars and tax cuts, etc. No, you should move to Venezuela. You sound like the perfect person to live there, docile, easily-led, counting on the government to provide for yourself which you yourself refuse to. I hear they have free medical care too.
-Tom Enright
rjones@colby.edu - 11 Jan 2006 12:44 GMT > > > The hypocrisy and foolishness is in the fact that you, > > > somehow, believe that because you dislike things [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > yourself refuse to. I hear they have free medical care > too. Why would I count on the government to provide for me that which I refuse to provide myself? I'm providing for myself just fine, thanks, in my own docile and easily led manner.
JC Martin - 10 Jan 2006 20:54 GMT >>>Belafonte and Glover are true American Heroes. Repubs >>>likes to call the murders in the American military [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > for the poor masses of his country. Wish I could say > the same about our "President." That's total bullshit. And I have no hypocrisy on this point so I resent the attack. Chavez's money is blood money, a good chunk of it coming from the U.S. in fact. Without oil, Chavez has no control over his people. That well will run dry and then what? Yeah, that brand of populism sounds real nice on the surface, but to discount the dark reality of his fascist power grab is to ignore human suffering at the expense of your own ideology. Seems like everyone is about themselves these days.
We don't disagree about Bush BTW, but he doesn't have nearly as much power in this country as Chavez does in his. In fact, as I said, Bush and his ilk are gone in 3 years. Read the human rights links and educate yourself as to what Chavez is up to.
-JC
George Spelvin - 11 Jan 2006 14:22 GMT > Chavez is a dictator, period. Pretty sad to watch Belefonte and Glover > used for propaganda purposes. Chavez was democratically elected in 1998 (getting over 56% of the vote). He was democratically reelected in 2000 with almost 60% of the vote.
I thought the U.S. was dedicated to supporting democracy?
JC Martin - 11 Jan 2006 14:45 GMT >>Chavez is a dictator, period. Pretty sad to watch Belefonte and Glover >>used for propaganda purposes. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I thought the U.S. was dedicated to supporting democracy? Do you think Chavez will ever be voted out? Did you read the links I provided you? These are aren't right-wing links...so do educate yourself and put your ideology aside. Or maybe you just support fascism.
-JC
George Spelvin - 12 Jan 2006 14:01 GMT > >>Chavez is a dictator, period. Pretty sad to watch Belefonte and Glover > >>used for propaganda purposes. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > provided you? These are aren't right-wing links...so do educate > yourself and put your ideology aside. Or maybe you just support fascism. Yes, I read them. Nothing disputes the fact that Chavez was democratically elected. I am not lauding Chavez, I am pointing out that he is a democratically elected president.
So why don't you put your ideology aside.? Or maybe you just don't like democracy.
JC Martin - 12 Jan 2006 14:43 GMT >>>>Chavez is a dictator, period. Pretty sad to watch Belefonte and Glover >>>>used for propaganda purposes. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Yes, I read them. Nothing disputes the fact that Chavez was > democratically elected. Actually, there's a lot of debate as to whether or not this was a democratic election. What we do know however is that future elections will be fixed given the moves Chavez is making right now.
>I am not lauding Chavez, I am pointing out > that he is a democratically elected president. > > So why don't you put your ideology aside.? I tend to favor some socialism in terms of dealing with infrastructure and regulating business, so my ideology isn't exactly status quo. But the phony rhetoric of a populist who aspires to be a fascist doesn't impress me much.
>Or maybe you just don't > like democracy. I don't like fascists disguised as do-gooders, no matter where they are.
-JC
Dewey - 12 Jan 2006 15:34 GMT >>>>>Chavez is a dictator, period. Pretty sad to watch Belefonte and >>>>>Glover used for propaganda purposes. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > democratic election. What we do know however is that future elections > will be fixed given the moves Chavez is making right now. He's just looking at Ohio and following suit.
will(from the reality based community) - 12 Jan 2006 18:10 GMT >>>>>Chavez is a dictator, period. Pretty sad to watch Belefonte and Glover >>>>>used for propaganda purposes. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >democratic election. What we do know however is that future elections >will be fixed given the moves Chavez is making right now. That's what they say about Dubya and the Republicans.
JoeG - 11 Jan 2006 02:33 GMT and he makes his trumpet blast from Venezuela ... wuss
Mike Espinoza - 11 Jan 2006 16:32 GMT Bush a terrorist? You've got to be kidding. He couldn't even rush for 100 yards against Texas. -- Mike E.
DJ - 11 Jan 2006 18:06 GMT > Bush a terrorist? You've got to be kidding. He couldn't even rush for > 100 yards against Texas. > -- IMFTP.
-- DJ
KRJ - 11 Jan 2006 17:36 GMT Gee, kooks travel on both edges of the political spectrum.
> Belafonte and Glover are true American Heroes. Repubs likes to call the > murders in the American military heroes but these guys are the real deal. [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11497.htm
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