The redumblicans keep whining that Bush wasn't breaking the law by spying on
terrorists without warrants. They keep ignoring the fact that the FBI was
spying on peaceful groups such as the Quakers without warrants. Bush and his
gestapo are working outside of the law and must be stopped. Have the
redumblicans become so brain dead that anyone that disagrees with them is a
terrorist?
ACLU decries 'unwarranted spying' by FBI
Posted: August 01, 2005 by: Brenda Norrell / Indian Country Today
DENVER - The FBI conducted surveillance of American Indians protesting
Columbus Day in Denver, said the American Civil Liberties Union in its
announcement that the FBI amassed more than 1,100 pages of documents on
nonviolent groups across the nation, including Greenpeace and the Quakers,
during the past four years.
Calling it ''rampant and unwarranted spying,'' the ACLU said the FBI
surveillance has a ''chilling effect'' on the exercise of First Amendment
rights.
The ACLU said spying on peace groups and political activists is a misuse of
power being carried out under new counterterrorism laws.
''We now know that the government is keeping documents about the ACLU and
other peaceful groups - the question is why,'' said ACLU Executive Director
Anthony D. Romero.
The ACLU is seeking information about the FBI's use of joint terrorism task
forces and local police to engage in political surveillance, according to a
statement released by the ACLU.
Ann Beeson, associate legal director of the ACLU, said the FBI documents
underscore the ACLU's concern that the FBI is violating Americans' ''right
to peacefully assemble and oppose government policies without being branded
as
terrorist threats.''
''There is no need to open a counterterrorism file when people are simply
exercising their First Amendment rights.''
The ACLU announcement came in July following a previous ACLU lawsuit in
Denver, which followed evidence that the Denver Police Intelligence Dept.
kept secret files, known as the ''Denver spy files,'' on American Indians
and peace groups in Denver for 30 years.
The Denver police kept secret files on the American Indian Movement, John
Echohawk and other attorneys at the Native American Rights Fund, author and
icon Vine Deloria Jr., Cherokee leader Wilma Mankiller and activist Winona
LaDuke.
Denver police also kept spy files on Columbus Day protest organizers Glenn
Morris, Tink Tinker, Ward Churchill and Russell Means. The Denver spy files
included Wallace Coffey, John Mohawk, Dennis Banks and supporters of the Big
Mountain relocation resisters and Leonard Peltier.
Besides Columbus Day protesters, Denver police kept spy files on an
80-year-old grandmother who had a Leonard Peltier bumper sticker on her car.
The ACLU lawsuit in Denver resulted in new policies in the Denver Police
Dept. in 2004. Further, American Indians and others named in the spy files
were able to obtain copies of the documents.
Currently, the ACLU is launching a nationwide effort to expose and prevent
the FBI from spying on people and groups simply for speaking out or
practicing their faith. In addition to Freedom of Information Act requests
on behalf of the national organizations, the ACLU has filed similar requests
on behalf of more than 100 groups and individuals in 16 states and the
District of Columbia.
The requests were filed in response to widespread complaints from students
and political activists. They said they were questioned by FBI agents in the
months leading up to the 2004 political conventions.
The ACLU's FOIA requests seek the actual FBI files of groups and individuals
targeted for speaking out or practicing their faith. Further, they seek
information about how the practices and funding structure of the joint
terrorism task forces, known as JTTFs, are encouraging ''rampant and
unwarranted spying,'' the ACLU said.
Romero said the ACLU is urging the court to order that the recently revealed
FBI surveillance documents be turned over immediately.
''If the FBI has nothing to hide, it should release the documents promptly.
The government's claim that it needs nine more months to turn over these
documents is a stalling tactic,'' Romero said, referring to the FBI's
request for more time to ''process'' the 1,173 pages of documents it says it
has on the ACLU.
Along with the surveillance of American Indians, the ACLU revealed the
contents of a report on United for Peace and Justice, a national peace
organization that coordinates non-violent protests.
The document, sections of which are redacted, is addressed to FBI
''Counterrorism'' personnel and quotes from the peace group's Web site.
Earlier, the group called for a public demonstration prior to the 2004
Republican National Convention.
The document was released in response to an ACLU lawsuit filed two months
ago to expedite its FOIA request for FBI surveillance files on the ACLU,
Greenpeace, United for Peace and Justice, Code Pink, People for the Ethical
Treatment of Animals, the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee and
the Muslim Public Affairs Council.
http://www.indiancountry.com/content.cfm?id=1096411337
uyu - 25 Dec 2005 19:47 GMT
On 25 Dec 2005 19:24:14 +0100, "Freedom Fries"
<GeorgeWCaligula@warmonger.com> wrote:
Get a brain, you twink.
Clinton and others have did it.. therefore..it must be o.k..
or were you too busy in the bath house to notice.
al mundy - 26 Dec 2005 04:16 GMT
> Get a brain, you twink.
We all know that anyone with a brain accepts Bush's word for anything.
;-)
Bukowski - 26 Dec 2005 04:20 GMT
Only if they have a giant hole in that head where that brain used to be
which has been replaced with 100% horseshit
Wonko the Sane - 26 Dec 2005 17:09 GMT
1) Surveillance is not an activity that requires a warrant
2) Russel Means is peaceful?
3) The only thing here that upsets me is law enforcement resources
seem to have been wasted.
Doug
Bukowski - 26 Dec 2005 17:17 GMT
surveillance is not always the same thing as spying. We are both
splitting hairs here but the real question is do we want to live in a
Solviet style country where meglomaniac paranoids use fear to justify
every conceivable abuse of power. If you do, then we should destroy the
constitution because it's existance keeps us from being 100% safe from
terror. Nothing will ever provide us that safety of course and Bush
knowes this. Funy thing is he will get away with it while Nixon paid
the price.
Wonko the Sane - 26 Dec 2005 20:30 GMT
"the real question is do we want to live in a Solviet style country
where meglomaniac paranoids use fear to justify every conceivable abuse
of power."
Since that statement has no honest basis in reality, I'm not worried.
The very fact that the FOIA requests can be filed and that the article
was published belies the paranoia over spying/surveillance. This is a
common tactic these days. Every far left group wants to avoid the fact
that the public is largely ignoring them and gain undue publicity by
claiming the government is pulling dirty tricks on them.
BTW, didn't the organizers of the Denver parade threaten violence? Is
it your position that the FBI must ignore threats of violence if there
is a political component to the threat?
Doug
Bukowski - 27 Dec 2005 18:28 GMT
"Since that statement has no honest basis in reality, I'm not worried.
Paranioa does not substitiute"
what part is un-real, Solviet spying or Bush abusing 9/11 paranioa to
spy on people who disagree with his politics? both really happend.
Do you have any proof other then right wing conspiracy theories that
that anti-war groups are in fact pro-terror groups? don't feel bad if
you don't, niether does Bush which is why he has resorted to this
rather sleazy tactic. It's also funny that you trust the guy who was
alsleep at the wheel on 9/11 as the best guy to keep us safe.
Dennis - 28 Dec 2005 12:02 GMT
"Bukowski" <mlsotelo2002@yahoo.com> You're digging it round, when it
aughta Be SQUARE
>"Since that statement has no honest basis in reality, I'm not worried.
>Paranioa does not substitiute"
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>rather sleazy tactic. It's also funny that you trust the guy who was
>alsleep at the wheel on 9/11 as the best guy to keep us safe.
well they're awake now...
just look at the great job they did in NOLA...
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