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Freedom Fries - 23 Dec 2005 18:05 GMT Time to impeach Bush and send him to the golf courses where the only damage he can do is hit people in the head with a stray ball because he's too much of a self centered a.shole to yell fore.
Is George Bush a Mad Emperor? by William Hughes http://baltimorechronicle.com/2005/122305Hughes.shtml
"Any man can make mistakes, but only an idiot persists in his error."
The Roman masses finally figured out that their highly eccentric Emperor, Caligula, was a raving lunatic when it was revealed that he was having lavish dinner parties in honor of his favorite horse and that he had even considered making it a Consul! Caligula's reported incestuous relationships with his sisters was bad enough for them to stomach; the "horse thing," however, became the tipping point. Caligula had to go! He was soon replaced, in a palace-orchestrated coup de dictator, by the bookish Claudius. At that time, unfortunately for the batty Caligula, there wasn't an "impeachment process" or "censure proceedings" in place to hasten his exit in a peaceful and dignified manner from the then chaotic political scene in the Eternal City. Recently, President George W. Bush, a/k/a "Bush II,"--a would-be "Emperor" if there ever was one--was forced to own up to the shocking fact that in Oct., 2001, he had covertly ordered the National Security Agency (NSA), to spy on countless U.S. residents. Is Bush, too, losing his mind? Coming on top of his damnable lies that got the U.S. into the Iraqi War, this is another very disturbing bombshell. Bush has been spying on our citizenry without the required court orders and in direct violation of the liberties guaranteed in the U.S. Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and in other laws of the land. Question: Is the fact that Bush is acting contemptuously, and above the law, in this latest disgusting scandal, going to be a tipping point for the American people? When are they going to stop putting up with his crazed antics? Will this repulsive episode be like Caligula's "horse thing?" Well, I sure hope so!
Bush's decision to spy on U.S. citizens is a breach of the Constitution that goes to the very heart of our democratic system, the "Separation of Powers" doctrine, and to rule of law. When this story broke on Monday, Dec. 19, 2005, a respected federal jurist, the Hon. James Robertson, resigned from a secret court that oversees government snooping in intelligence cases. Robertson said the president's authorizing a domestic spying scheme "tainted" the court's work. According to the Washington Post, the judicial tribunal Robertson was sitting on is labeled the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, or the "FISA Court" for short. It was set up by the Congress in 1975 to legally empower sleuths of the federal government to engage in: surveillance, eavesdropping, window peeping, wiretapping, planting of bugging devices, along with the interception of snail-mail, and now of e-mail, on suspects in espionage and terrorism-related matters. The court warrant for surveillance, etc., however, could only be issued by one of the judges on the 11-membered panel, if the Justice Department lawyers could show to the presiding jurist that there was "probable cause" that the party and/or parties under watch were "a foreign government or their agents."
Bush is now making the highly dubious legal claim that when the U.S. Congress authorized him, after 9/11, to use military force against Al-Qaeda, (AUMF), that it had also by implication granted him the plenary power to initiate warrantless searches in America of any and all suspects in supposed terrorism matters, whether those targeted are connected to Al-Qaeda or not. This is a preposterous notion, since the Congress, even if it wanted to, couldn't lawfully grant the president extraconstitutional powers that it didn't possess. This is the same President Bush who also has condoned the torture of detainees in the Iraqi War and thinks and acts like the U.S. Constitution and the Geneva Convention are just mere "pieces of paper." Bush is also claiming that he has the inherent, and absolute, power, as president, to order warrantless searches in national security cases. If that is so, why did Congress enact the FISA law? What do you call a delusional elected official, entrusted by the people with acting as a chief magistrate of a nation, who insists that he has powers greater then the limited ones specifically spelled out in the law? In Rome, during the halcyon days of its Republic, they condemned such a person as "a dictator," "a traitor," and "an enemy of the people."
There is more relevant history from the Ancients to ponder in this matter. The Roman Emperor Nero, also a seriously deranged man, was reported to have deliberately torched the city of Rome and played his fiddle while singing the ballad, "The Sack of Troy," as it burned away. On the advice of palace intriguers (the Neocons of that era), he then scapegoated the Christians for the conflagration. Doesn't that sound a lot like Bush's scapegoating Saddam Hussein after that highly suspicious 9/11 tragedy? When the tide of public opinion turned against Nero, instead of hiring a fixer (like lobbyists Jack Abramoff or Michael Scanlon) to mount a PR counteroffensive on his behalf, he took his own life. Nero's last words, à la Woody Allen, were: "What a showman the world is losing in me!" Bush isn't a "showman" or a political leader, either. He is a demigod, who is mocked nightly for his foolishness by comedians like Jay Leno, David Letterman and Conan O'Brien.
Nero and Bush, alas, have still more in common. When the imperial Bush was governor of Texas for six years, he signed death warrants for 152 defendants who had been convicted of capital offenses. Petitions for clemency were regularly forwarded to him on behalf of the condemned. Some of these individuals on death row suffered from mental retardation, and others had cases where their lawyers were claimed to be grossly incompetent. Bush said he "reviewed each case seriously." This is just another one of his big whoppers. Even Nero, when he was first required to sign a death warrant, said, "How I wish I had never learned to write." This was long before he had lost his mind - completely.
More to the point, Bush has now confessed to the shameful fact that the totally unnecessary Iraqi War, which he chose to launch in March, 2003, has killed "more than 30,000 Iraqis." It has also taken the lives of 2,156 American military personnel, while wounding 16,000 more. The vast majority of the Iraqi victims were innocent people, many of them women and children. A British-based study by the distinguished medical journal Lancet says that the number of Iraqi fatalities is closer to 100,000. In any event, Bush's illegal, immoral and unjust Iraqi war has caused more deadly casualties than the reigns of the despotic Caligula and Nero combined. Bush persists, however, in saying that it was all about bringing "democracy" to Iraq. This is the same kind of irrational thinking demonstrated by the unhinged Nero in wanting to "improve" Rome by first burning it to the ground.
What Bush has brought to occupied Iraq (thanks, too, to his main partners in merciless mayhem: Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz) is not "democracy," but death, widespread destruction, and unspeakable suffering and human misery. He has also created a bitter hatred for America in the Islamic World which will endure for centuries to come.
In summation, what Bush is now doing to the American people by unlawfully spying on them is clearly an impeachable offense under the U.S. Constitution. We are being ruled by a man who has no respect for our laws, the Courts or our institutions. He is a one-man wrecking crew--a menace to our society and to its revered traditions. He is also the architect of another insidious evil--"Perpetual War." Bush is as wacky in his own flakey ways as were the nutty Caligula and Nero in theirs. Unless "Emperor Bush" is stopped--impeached and jailed--by an awakened people who have reached their tipping point, he will lead America further into the abyss. It is a place from which our Republic, founded by the gallant patriots of old, may never be able to return.
eaglesclaw - 23 Dec 2005 18:06 GMT I love how the liberals can't get thru a day without bashing Bush - bunch of idiots
> Time to impeach Bush and send him to the golf courses > where the only damage he can do is hit people in the head [quoted text clipped - 159 lines] > from which our Republic, founded by the gallant patriots of old, may never > be able to return. Dewey - 23 Dec 2005 18:28 GMT > I love how the liberals can't get thru a day without bashing Bush - bunch of > idiots I love how conservatives can't get through a day without bashing liberals.
SNORKY - 23 Dec 2005 18:40 GMT >I love how the liberals can't get thru a day without bashing Bush - bunch of >idiots You have to understand their predicament: they lost in 2000, and yelled for 4 years they really won and would prove it in 2004, and then lost in 2004 by 3 million additional votes. They are very, very confused people.
will(from the reality based community) - 23 Dec 2005 19:05 GMT >>I love how the liberals can't get thru a day without bashing Bush - bunch of >>idiots [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >then lost in 2004 by 3 million additional votes. They are very, very >confused people. History will show those that voted for Bush were the confused people.
Hey, stuff like that happens. People vote for crooks and liars and cheats and incompetents. Nothin new about that.
Rockett Crawford - 23 Dec 2005 19:30 GMT >>>I love how the liberals can't get thru a day without bashing Bush - bunch >>>of [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Hey, stuff like that happens. People vote for crooks and liars and > cheats and incompetents. Nothin new about that. Nixon comes to mind. Just like Bush, elected twice before the corruption in his administration finally caught up with him. Deja Vu...
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SNORKY - 23 Dec 2005 20:25 GMT >>>>I love how the liberals can't get thru a day without bashing Bush - bunch >>>>of [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >Rockett Crawford And Clinton. Deja vu VU.
Rockett Crawford - 23 Dec 2005 20:54 GMT >>>>>I love how the liberals can't get thru a day without bashing Bush - >>>>>bunch [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > And Clinton. Deja vu VU. No, Clinton didn't have to resign because most people don't think that being trapped into lying about a BJ rises to the level of HC and M.
Apparently a lot of people do think that lying about and ordering the illegal spying on Americans is however (along with the Iraq war goof up)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10562904#survey
Rockett Crawford
Lord Gow, Happy Go Fun Battling Warrior of Lesnarism! - 24 Dec 2005 02:56 GMT >>>>>>I love how the liberals can't get thru a day without bashing Bush - >>>>>>bunch [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > No, Clinton didn't have to resign because most people don't think that > being trapped into lying about a BJ rises to the level of HC and M. Ohhhhh, now he was TRAPPED into lying about it. Damn, you guys just don't give up do you?
> Apparently a lot of people do think that lying about and ordering the > illegal spying Oh really? You've heard of a conviction, have you?
>on Americans is however (along with the Iraq war goof up) > > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10562904#survey UNscientific survey. Or, in other words, as much bullshit as any other liberal victory.
But you keep trying there, Jizzrag.
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3v1| 51d35h0w B0b 333 - 24 Dec 2005 15:52 GMT Bush doesn't look anything like Malcolm McDowell...
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Dewey - 28 Dec 2005 16:10 GMT > >>>>I love how the liberals can't get thru a day without bashing Bush - bunch > >>>>of [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > And Clinton. Deja vu VU. Right. Because we all know that lying about sex is the same as lying us into war.
SNORKY - 23 Dec 2005 20:25 GMT >>>I love how the liberals can't get thru a day without bashing Bush - bunch of >>>idiots [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >Hey, stuff like that happens. People vote for crooks and liars and >cheats and incompetents. Nothin new about that. I think history will show, mainly due to leftwing hypocrisy, that those who voted for W (swing-wise) did so b/c the alternatives were worse.
Rob Browning - 24 Dec 2005 19:40 GMT >>>>I love how the liberals can't get thru a day without bashing Bush - bunch of >>>>idiots [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >those who voted for W (swing-wise) did so b/c the alternatives were >worse. And then the historians will wonder how the alternatives given could possibly have been worse.
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SNORKY - 26 Dec 2005 15:47 GMT >>>>>I love how the liberals can't get thru a day without bashing Bush - bunch of >>>>>idiots [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >Rob >ploovTeHSPaeMBLoKuR@charter.net And then they will see what they were saying at the time and KNOW how bad those alternatives would have been.
Dewey - 28 Dec 2005 16:09 GMT > >>I love how the liberals can't get thru a day without bashing Bush - bunch of > >>idiots [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Hey, stuff like that happens. People vote for crooks and liars and > cheats and incompetents. Nothin new about that. Hitler was elected. So was Saddam Hussein. In fact, Saddam got 100% of the vote.
Pope Ominous the 69th - Love slave of GoGoGadget Girl - 23 Dec 2005 19:26 GMT snorky they did beat bush.. those 3 million votes appeared out of nowhere in ohio.. blame diebold machines for that.
SNORKY - 23 Dec 2005 20:25 GMT >snorky they did beat bush.. those 3 million votes appeared out of >nowhere in ohio.. blame diebold machines for that. Oh, thanks for the info, I didn't know the election was stolen.
SNORKY - 23 Dec 2005 19:40 GMT Liberals only have a heart if they can take the credit and win elections. Otherwise, they lie and take glee in US body counts. I wonder how many liberal groups are planning something special the day casualty # 2500 is announced by the Pentagon.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/12/23/iraq.genocide.ap/index.html
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http://tinyurl.com/c3muq
Rockett Crawford - 23 Dec 2005 20:24 GMT > Liberals only have a heart if they can take the credit and win > elections. Otherwise, they lie and take glee in US body counts. I > wonder how many liberal groups are planning something special the day > casualty # 2500 is announced by the Pentagon. Correction: A casualty is someone who is badly injured or killed. There have been 17,00+ American casualties in Iraq.
There have been over 2000 Americans killed.
I don't think anyone is taking glee in 17,000 Americans injured, maimed, or killed in a war, especially one that was a goof by the white house.
Rockett Crawford
Lord Gow, Happy Go Fun Battling Warrior of Lesnarism! - 24 Dec 2005 02:58 GMT >> Liberals only have a heart if they can take the credit and win >> elections. Otherwise, they lie and take glee in US body counts. I [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I don't think anyone is taking glee in 17,000 Americans injured, maimed, > or killed in a war, especially one that was a goof by the white house. You, sir, are a fucknut.
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bozak - 24 Dec 2005 13:41 GMT >>> Liberals only have a heart if they can take the credit and win >>> elections. Otherwise, they lie and take glee in US body counts. I [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > You, sir, are a fucknut. and youre a fucktard, but you dont see anybody holding it against you...
Dewey - 28 Dec 2005 16:12 GMT > >> Liberals only have a heart if they can take the credit and win > >> elections. Otherwise, they lie and take glee in US body counts. I [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > You, sir, are a fucknut. Here's one who thinks the deaths in Iraq are dandy.,
Dewey - 28 Dec 2005 16:12 GMT > > Liberals only have a heart if they can take the credit and win > > elections. Otherwise, they lie and take glee in US body counts. I [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I don't think anyone is taking glee in 17,000 Americans injured, maimed, or > killed in a war, especially one that was a goof by the white house. I think the republicans love it. It means fewer people in the workforce and therefore it drives down the unemployment rate.
bozak - 24 Dec 2005 13:41 GMT > Liberals only have a heart if they can take the credit and win > elections. Otherwise, they lie and take glee in US body counts. I > wonder how many liberal groups are planning something special the day > casualty # 2500 is announced by the Pentagon. we will plan something really special if youre the 2500 casualty...
:-) i promise... oh wait a minute, cowards like you just talk about it and wont enlist...
Dewey - 28 Dec 2005 16:11 GMT > Liberals only have a heart if they can take the credit and win > elections. Otherwise, they lie and take glee in US body counts. I > wonder how many liberal groups are planning something special the day > casualty # 2500 is announced by the Pentagon. I wonder whether Bush will finally attend a funeral.
Dewey - 28 Dec 2005 16:09 GMT > >I love how the liberals can't get thru a day without bashing Bush - bunch of > >idiots [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > then lost in 2004 by 3 million additional votes. They are very, very > confused people. You are aware that in 2004, 56% of Americans voted for Democratic Candidates to the house and Senate, righ?
Acolyte of Glorious La Parka~, (Name copyright Vincent K. McMahon), PWN3R & PuppetMaster of Dancing Tards & RSPW'S ONE & ONLY TRUE Pope - 23 Dec 2005 22:27 GMT > I love how the liberals can't get thru a day without bashing Bush - bunch of > idiots Dude, don't even BOTHER wasting your time. This is simply an anonymous liEbTARD propaganda-spewing anonymous pussy who disappears & reappears periodically. He is only worth pointing at & laughing.
(Yes, I ADMIT I have replied to the Anonymous Pussy Sockpuppet at times, but it was more for my own momentary amusement then anything. I'm trying to kick the habit, but liEbTARD pussy-smacking is so much fun it's hard to stop.)
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Pauli G - 23 Dec 2005 18:29 GMT > Time to impeach Bush and send him to the golf courses > where the only damage he can do is hit people in the head [quoted text clipped - 125 lines] > from which our Republic, founded by the gallant patriots of old, may never > be able to return. Bob Guccione filming lesbians in the oval orfice?
Dewey - 23 Dec 2005 18:28 GMT > Bob Guccione filming lesbians in the oval orfice? Oval orifice? That's funny.
Jeremey Wilson - 23 Dec 2005 18:38 GMT > Is George Bush a Mad Emperor? > by William Hughes > http://baltimorechronicle.com/2005/122305Hughes.shtml It's wonderful that the Baltimore Chronicle found a classicist to write political commentary for them.
> "Any man can make mistakes, but only an idiot persists in his error." You said it, Bill.
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Wonko the Sane - 23 Dec 2005 21:06 GMT "Any man can make mistakes, but only an idiot persists in his error."
Another irony meter vaporized.
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Glen Heiman - 23 Dec 2005 22:36 GMT > Time to impeach Bush and send him to the golf courses > where the only damage he can do is hit people in the head [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Oct., 2001, he had covertly ordered the National Security Agency (NSA), to > spy on countless U.S. residents. But idot Freedom Fries doesn't give a sh.t if the former emporer not only had his potential enemies followed, they were threatened, beaten, and murdered.
Butt, his dumbness and blindness, Ms Freedom Lies, thinks that this hypocrisy is just fine and dandy.
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Is Bush, too, losing his mind? Coming on
> top of his damnable lies that got the U.S. into the Iraqi War, this is > another very disturbing bombshell. Bush has been spying on our citizenry [quoted text clipped - 99 lines] > from which our Republic, founded by the gallant patriots of old, may never > be able to return. Tonawanda Kardex - 24 Dec 2005 20:37 GMT This is pure 'bate, right?
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