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David Coffman - 24 Aug 2004 05:34 GMT What do you guys think is the best Fantasy Game..
I think FF7 had the best story line and then FF8 had the best graphics... but I would have to say the best FF game that I have played to date is FFX .
What do you guys think
Chriz - 24 Aug 2004 06:38 GMT Once upon a time David Coffman decided to write:
> What do you guys think is the best Fantasy Game.. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > What do you guys think I liked FFVI and FFVIII about the same. FFVIII graphics were good for PS1 standards, but wasn't FFIX's graphics better? I never played FFIX, but from a few screen shots the graphics looked smoother.
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David Coffman - 24 Aug 2004 06:53 GMT > Once upon a time David Coffman decided to write: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > standards, but wasn't FFIX's graphics better? I never played FFIX, but from > a few screen shots the graphics looked smoother. but I don't know
David Coffman - 24 Aug 2004 06:53 GMT > Once upon a time David Coffman decided to write: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > standards, but wasn't FFIX's graphics better? I never played FFIX, but from > a few screen shots the graphics looked smoother. but I don't know
W. Blaine Dowler - 24 Aug 2004 12:28 GMT > I never played FFIX, but from > a few screen shots the graphics looked smoother. I think the FFIX graphics were much better than FFVIII. The character models were much more expressive with their body language, for one thing.
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Glitch - 24 Aug 2004 13:49 GMT >> I never played FFIX, but from >>a few screen shots the graphics looked smoother. > > I think the FFIX graphics were much better than FFVIII. The character > models were much more expressive with their body language, for one thing. FF VIII is the best fantasy game on the PS for me and I also played FF VI,VII and IX. On the PS2 FFX and FFX-2 are ALMOST equal though the X has a better story but I liked X-2s ending(the exteneded end) a bit more.I really like the X-2s song '1000 words'.
Michele Dall'Agata - 24 Aug 2004 14:56 GMT > FF VIII is the best fantasy game on the PS for me and I also played FF > VI,VII and IX. I agree.
> On the PS2 FFX and FFX-2 are ALMOST equal Say what?? Even the graphics is bad in FFX-2. I could see through the walls. Not to talk about the crappy music, the mission based BS, the episode complete shite, the 100% nightmare, the wistles to get the perfect ending, the monkeys mating, the irritating commspheres, the... blah.
>though the X has a better > story but I liked X-2s ending(the exteneded end) a bit more.I really > like the X-2s song '1000 words'. YUCK!! Gimmi the hymn of the fayths all the times. But we are entitled to our opinions. :-D
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Glitch - 24 Aug 2004 17:52 GMT > Say what?? Even the graphics is bad in FFX-2. I could see through the walls. > Not to talk about the crappy music, the mission based BS, the episode > complete shite, the 100% nightmare, the wistles to get the perfect ending, > the monkeys mating, the irritating commspheres, the... blah. Take a look at X-2 graphics(faces,suroundings) and then compare it to X.For example intro movie in FF X has a lot worse graphics than the EXT.ending in X-2(Tidus and Yuna in Zanarkand,when she pushes him into the water) and this is a good example 'cause both movies are in the same location. Also one more thing.Nobody forced you to play the game for 100% and though it is a bit long it's worth it.If not for the satisfaction of playing it 100% than for that ext.ending movie.
Michele Dall'Agata - 26 Aug 2004 12:38 GMT >> Say what?? Even the graphics is bad in FFX-2. I could see through the >> walls. Not to talk about the crappy music, the mission based BS, the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > the water) and this is a good example 'cause both movies are in the same > location. Well, I don't know about you, but when I played FFX the first time I was excited by the way the game was introducing us into a movie. The mix of gameplay and FMVs to me was just wonderful. Then, talking about the graphis when playing, I repeat I could see through the walls in some dungeons. Also in Le Blanc house there is a graphic glitch that shows the "hidden" switch.
> Also one more thing.Nobody forced you to play the game for 100% and > though it is a bit long it's worth it.If not for the satisfaction of > playing it 100% than for that ext.ending movie. Which is the point indeed. Let me put in this way: I know many people love FFX-2, so I am not going to argue. But the two games are not comparable. They have two completely different gameplay. I just found very irritating that to reach 100% I had to follow step by step the walkthrough.
Ciao, Michele
Glitch - 26 Aug 2004 17:54 GMT You got me wrong. I,too like FFX more in the terms of story,gameplay,etc. but as I said I like FFX-2s ending more 'cause it's a happy one(Tidus and Yuna are back together,Wakka and Lulu are married and have a son Vidina,Kimahri guides the Ronso...). I also never said that X has bad graphics(when it was released that was a small revolution on PS2) I only said that X-2 has better.My X-2 never had any glithces. See ya!
Michele Dall'Agata - 24 Aug 2004 15:00 GMT >> I never played FFIX, but from >> a few screen shots the graphics looked smoother. > > I think the FFIX graphics were much better than FFVIII. The character > models were much more expressive with their body language, for one thing. I don't know why, but I really didn't like that game. Maybe because it has been the first that I played in Italian instead of English. I found it pretty childish as well (my 8 years old nephew loves it indeed...).
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DarkSheer - 24 Aug 2004 16:11 GMT > What do you guys think is the best Fantasy Game.. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > What do you guys think Fine, I'll enter this one.
The best on the PSX, storyline weise, would be VII, then VIII. The best graphics is definatly IX. They could have done a better job at character designe, though.
The best overall is definatly FFVI. Hands down, no question about it......by far.
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Paul Nolan - 25 Aug 2004 02:21 GMT > The best overall is definatly FFVI. Hands down, no question about > it......by far. Agreed (Seeing cutscene Kefka on PSX was a tears-in-eyes moment (He was just like I guessed by the SNES sprite ^_^) Don't know why cutscene Terra had blonde hair, though...
I think I'll put in a mention for FFV. This one definately had the best soundtrack (Gilgamesh's theme - yay!!!) - I downloaded a SPC player just so I could add this to my playlist. For plot, though, it's FFVII or FFVI (I quite liked VIII except for the first half of disc 2 - boooooring)
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Braska - 25 Aug 2004 12:42 GMT > > What do you guys think is the best Fantasy Game.. > > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Ryan FF-X did it for me. I liked the religious under, and overtones of the story. Also liked LuLu's whatchamacallits, nicer than Tifa's.
Paul Nolan - 24 Aug 2004 18:16 GMT > What do you guys think is the best Fantasy Game.. > > I think FF7 had the best story line and then FF8 had the best graphics... > but I would have to say the best FF game that I have played to date is FFX . > > What do you guys think It's a toss-up between FFVII and FFVIII. It propbably would be FFVIII, but I though disc 2 just yawned it's way through... However, all the stuff on disc 3 (Eshar, the Pandora etc.) made up for it.
For graphics, I'd have to say FFIX. Athough FFVIII tried to be 'realistic', I think it tried too much for the hardware, making the models a bit indistict and blocky. FFIX used chunkier character models, which matched the PSX's graphics capabilities much better, giving a nicer look. I also really liked the style of drawing on FFIX - it was good to see Yoshitaka Amano taking the lead again ^_^
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Jessica - 24 Aug 2004 19:13 GMT > What do you guys think is the best Fantasy Game.. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > What do you guys think FFVIII for me! Graphics and storyline.
Ramen Junkie - 25 Aug 2004 03:38 GMT > What do you guys think is the best Fantasy Game.. > > I think FF7 had the best story line and then FF8 had the best graphics... > but I would have to say the best FF game that I have played to date is FFX . > > What do you guys think Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas.
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Rob Browning - 25 Aug 2004 04:06 GMT >> What do you guys think is the best Fantasy Game.. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas. That isn't out yet, a.s.
I'll have to say that the best fantasy game that's come out since the PSX is Planescape: Torment.
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Ramen Junkie - 26 Aug 2004 03:41 GMT > >> What do you guys think is the best Fantasy Game.. > >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > That isn't out yet, a.s. Irrelevant. IS IS STILL THE BEST BY DEFAULT.
At least until the next GTA.
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Corey Simonator - 26 Aug 2004 16:51 GMT >Subject: Re: Best Fantasy Game From PS1 on >From: "Ramen Junkie" Just_Reply@To_The_Post.com [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >At least until the next GTA. Should be interesting to see how they try to out do 3 cities and 12 small towns in a game; I just wish that San Andreas was being released on the x-box too right from the get go. Playing GTAVC on the x-box with final fantasy songs was fun.
Ramen Junkie - 26 Aug 2004 17:28 GMT > >Subject: Re: Best Fantasy Game From PS1 on > >From: "Ramen Junkie" Just_Reply@To_The_Post.com [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > right from the get go. Playing GTAVC on the x-box with final fantasy songs was > fun. Well they've remade Liberty City, Vice City, and San Andreas. I guess that leaves GTA London (Though The Getaway is more or less this). Or better yet, GTA England. A WHOLE COUNTRY. Ten then can move on the GTA USA, with and even BIGGER country. Finally in maybe 10 years we'll get GTA: World, with like 50000 vehicles to choose from and an entire planet to rampage cross. I guess we'd have to move into space next.
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Pahsons - Somnolent - Insomniac - Narcoleptic - 25 Aug 2004 08:23 GMT In a daze, I read Ramen Junkie's post, then collasped.
>> What do you guys think is the best Fantasy Game.. >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=fantasy I agree with this post
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.x. Sorrow .x. Student Of Auron - 27 Aug 2004 05:57 GMT This is my first time posting in a group. Nice group you have, didn't expect to find one.
May Contain spoliers to those who haven't played FF7,FF8, FF10, FF10-2 and...be warned of randomness.
To Say the least. Final Fantasy 8 was not all that bad in storyline, it was greatly mysterious and good gameplay till Edea was instead just being possessed by some future sorceress.
I think it revolves too much around Rinoa, and she does nothing great. Nothing at all. She reminds me alot of Aerith, who alot of people...think is so great when infact she did nothing at all but pray and then die.
I Also believe she (Rinoa) whines far too much, the storyline could have been better if square had took the time to make it much deeper. Non the less it's not that bad.
The Ending boss battles are lamely easy, and not even a challenge. You would think with your Aeons...oops I mean GFs being taken from you. Exspecially Cerberus that your doomed, but it's just so darn easy.
The Hardest boss battle of the whole game is Adel, and that's only because you have to...again annoyingly save the helpless Rinoa without hurting her and then concerntrate on healing her as well with hopes Adel doesn't take the time to steal hp from her.
Sometimes I believe it was just an excuse to bring some cool looking characters into play, who had cool attitudes in order to make some quick cash.
You can't complain so much about the graphics considering it was for the original playstation, I was pretty amazed at the graphics for the movie scenes, and even thought it was pretty good otherwise out of those scenes.
Rinoa: Squall! SAVE ME! My Socks are eating my feet!
Squall: I've never felt this way...I"M COMING FOR YOU!
(Coughs)
(FFX and FFX-2 make up for graphics later on anyway)
Final Fantasy 7, I'm sure everyone agrees is the best FF for original playstation ever, the storyline is very hooked and as it goes on, it becomes more and more complicated and soon your confused not sure what's really happening. Heck I'm still not sure if the Sephiroth you must fight at the end in five million diffrent forms, is the real him or a clone.
I was very disappointed when I didn't get to have an all out fight with Sephiroth, and I mean the Sephiroth who is truely powerful. It was disappointing just using Cloud's last limit break to finish him off. But the rest of the game makes up for it.
Truely it is a great game, there were not enough graphic movies in my opinion. and I enjoyed the characters looking like little three inch fairies, it was amusing.
Something I do not understand, Why are Cloud and Aeris looked at as such great characters?
I just don't see a reason to like either one.
Aeris, is very needy, even ignorant towards Tifa, and quite rude in the competition for Cloud. and She's not very comforting of other people's emotions, she's the type to tell you cheer up because she doesn't want to hear about it but when it comes to her I'm sure she'd resent you for not listening.
Sure she does nice things, but otherwise...I just can't see any good in her.
Or prehaps that just me.
Clone 12: Must...Kill...Aeris...Again...Killll...
And Cloud...In the end he's just some...deluded idiot. Not that its bad being a idiot, but I just don't understand all the hype of his character, he's from what we seen a clone of Sephiroth in a way.
He's strange and delusional as Sephiroth is, only less cool.
Even though he did kill Sephiroth...which that's never fully explaind to how he did it. He's still just some guy...that everyone hypes up to being some great warrior character. and I think Vincent is greater. His story is better, sad and it's strangely too short a story.
...you know Vincent and Auron seem rather simlar when compared.
That's the end of that.
Cloud: Oh Whoa me, I'm a loser. I'm a clone. I suck. I wasn't really solider 1st class.
Wonder if Aeris would still want me.
Even though...I got this hot kind babe hanging off my arm, I want a dead girl who was self centered.
Tifa: ...I'm cool yet here I am. Telling him we'll go find Aeris and square makes me love him still. Is Vincent avaliable?
We can laugh at Luceria and Cloud for being idiots, together.
Cloud: Huh?
Tifa: Nothing my love. Let's go find that dead girl.
In words to everyone talking of FFX and FFX-2.
I find it extremely funny how anyone could say FFX-2's and FFX's graphics...were not that good and could have been better.
I was amazed at FFX-2's graphics, because in my opinion in movies they almost looked real. It was quite scary...made me wish Auron had been in it. Darn Square for taking him away from us.
The graphics were simply awesome.
The Storyline couldn't have been better, I think the whole game was of course directed towards a younger audience and made to satisfy fans who really wanted Yuna to have her Tidus again.
I am impressed they were able to come up with a solid storyline for a sequeal, even though...still their are plotholes like FFX.
The Sphere hunting missions and finding out what happened to all the characters in the first game, is alot of fun. Monkey mating season weee!
and...all that hardness just to get the Gippal sphere. (grumbles)
The new characters make the story fuller too.
..Yuna in FFX-2 is...so freaking wishy washy, I wish to strangle her worse then I am sorry Yuna, you know how she says Sorry about five hundred times in FFX
Anyway, the happy upbeat tune it has about letting things go is also refreshing from how depressing FFX can get.
Come on, who didn't feel like crying when watching Operation Mi'hen?
Or when Rikku had a break down and said had Yuna would die? and Whiney Tidus always saying how'd he find a way to save her
Again...maybe that is just me lol.
But FFX-2 kinda makes up for it, gives it a refreshing twist, sin's gone and look what everyones doing now. ...Why couldn't Shelinda have died? And Clasko? Why? and Elma. (Coughs) I just depise those characters.
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FFX, for any playstation console. Is the Best FF ever. At least so in my opinion. But for decided on Original PS, It's deffinity FF7.
..and I just realised how long I rambled. Excuse my rambleness. and Uh Nice Group you all have.
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Paul Nolan - 27 Aug 2004 18:49 GMT > Final Fantasy 7, I'm sure everyone agrees is the best FF for original > playstation ever, the storyline is very hooked and as it goes on, it > becomes more and more complicated and soon your confused not sure what's > really happening. > Heck I'm still not sure if the Sephiroth you must fight at the end in > five million diffrent forms, is the real him or a clone. Me and my sister have a theory that Seph (except in the flashback at Kalm) is actually Jenova, (Gast's video diary mentions the fact that Jenova took on the forms of the dead when it wiped out the Cetra - a bit like the First Evil on Buffy), and Seph really did die at Nibelheim.
> I was very disappointed when I didn't get to have an all out fight with > Sephiroth, and I mean the Sephiroth who is truely powerful. It was > disappointing just using Cloud's last limit break to finish him off. But > the rest of the game makes up for it. Same here, although Safer Seph was pretty damn cool
> Truely it is a great game, there were not enough graphic movies in my > opinion. and I enjoyed the characters looking like little three inch > fairies, it was amusing. Chibi rules ^_^
> Aeris, is very needy, even ignorant towards Tifa, and quite rude in the > competition for Cloud. and She's not very comforting of other people's > emotions, she's the type to tell you cheer up because she doesn't want > to hear about it but when it comes to her I'm sure she'd resent you for > not listening. That bit in Corneo's place was good, though (marvel at the bitchiness ^_^)
> In words to everyone talking of FFX and FFX-2. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > almost looked real. It was quite scary...made me wish Auron had been in > it. Darn Square for taking him away from us. IMHO the FFX cutscenes were better (Yuna looked weird in X-2). They did a much better job of making the cutscenes and the in-game blend better, though. Personally I hate FFX-2 (that might have something to do with the above comment, but I don't think so). The music was terrible (where's Nobuo Uematsu when you need him), the endless side-quests detracted from the core plot, and the final boss was a JOKE! (I thought Jecht was easy...)
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Mike Robinson - 29 Aug 2004 22:55 GMT >> Final Fantasy 7, I'm sure everyone agrees is the best FF for original >> playstation ever, the storyline is very hooked and as it goes on, it [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Jenova took on the forms of the dead when it wiped out the Cetra - a bit > like the First Evil on Buffy), and Seph really did die at Nibelheim. Sephiroth isn't Jenova, but he is controlled by Jenova (a "puppet", like Cloud, although Cloud is strong enough to break this control eventually), and gets his power from Jenova.
sickamongthecure - 28 Aug 2004 05:06 GMT <snip>
> FFX, for any playstation console. Is the Best FF ever. I agree! It is fab. And I agree about your observations on FF7 too. Best 'Overall story and premise' would be FF7 on the PS1, best overall overall would be FFX.
The thing that's grating on me with FF7 is that it could have been so much better, but it feels unfinished and a tad empty.
There isn't much weight... the dialogue and exposition is laughable and the way the story is told is very brief and in your face!
I'm quite amazed about how much volume was put in FFX-2 with it's simple story, but how little volume there is in FF7 with its story - if you get me?
And the graphics in FFX-2 are amazing! FFX was jaggy and the 'regular' character models and lip sync was questionable.
.x. Sorrow .x. Student Of Auron - 28 Aug 2004 18:44 GMT You know...I may have to agree with that theory. That has to be the best one I have heard to date about Sephiroth, I kept thinking it was still just a clone of him.
But where Cloud gives him meteor in the game, it looks like Sephiroth perserved, So I still question it.
What you say could very well be true. I never thought of that, I mean Jenovah does just escape the containment unit thingy with the supposed help of Sephiroth. Prehaps It felt a presence in Cloud when he came near the tank, you know...being Cloud has extreme number of Jenovah cells in him from being experminted on. And Somehow Revived it into Life?
Or It had been planning it's escape the entire time and decided to use Cloud as it Guinea pig to get what it wanted..then again how did it know all that stuff about Nibelhem? o_o; Even Tifa.
Too bad Square won't fess up with it's secrets.
Yuna I admit does look weird in FFX-2. But So Does Rikku, but considering they are supposed to be more grown up in two years, it's to be expected. ..But You know. The scenes where they talk all the time...Yuna looks younger. o_o; So it almost defeats the purpose.
I think they tryed making them more realistic, and honestly they did an incredible job of it.
You mean the ending Boss Vegenagun? Heh Yeahhhhhh, he is ...very easy ~~; Oo; The battle in the Den of Woe seems ten times harder. Only Challenge of the ending boss is, beat it before Shuyin speaks seven times.
I think the reason Jecht is so easy is because Tidus can talk to him... and make him lose his overdrive. Jecht was extremely hard for me the first time because I decided not to max out my stats, and to keep my characters are average levels. He whooped my a.s twice before i got past him.
Yu Yevon is a laugh too. And Defeating all the Aeons. Magus sisters were the only ones to put up a fight against me.
The Hardest boss battles of the game are in the Monster Arena...and If You figure out on your a way to max out your stats. (WEEE ONE-EYE) (Takes time and patience) Their a laugh too.
Great storyline, great gameplay...But Theres so many things you can do to make it easy. So It depends on you and what you do really.
Farewell,
Sorrow~
.x. Sorrow .x. Student Of Auron - 28 Aug 2004 20:53 GMT Gah I Can't Copy and paste like you guys. ^^;
I Apologise.
This is in Reply to Sickamongthecure.
Heh Yes I had the unfinished feeling after beating FF7, I expected alot more then there was...I almost threw the controller at the screen. I Can't believe they ended it like that, I was even more mad when I waited five bazillion hours just to see if there was anything else after credits...and ended up with Nanaki running with his cubs...and by the way If he's the last of his race? HOW DID THAT HAPPEN!?
Anyway because of the way they made the ending...and alot of us fans being mad about it, that's the reason for Advent Children!
Is It out yet by the way? I have no clue.
I'm getting a little itchy waiting for it, I can understand FFX's sequeal. Because they didn't know a life without sin, so of course i understand all the fun bunches of stuff.
I Hope they didn't make FF7's sequeal like that... I think that's what it is, a sequeal.
To make it remotely full of white running moogles and happiness...would well I'd have to hire a hitman to have everyone at square killed. Hopefully Advent Children satisfies us of those who were left with the unfinished feeling. I think it would have been better if they just worked on a game instead of a movie...but hey can't Complain. At least we get to see what happened after Holy was called! WEEE
Does anyone know anything about Advent Children? Any News Updates?
Farewell,
Sorrow~
Mike Robinson - 29 Aug 2004 22:55 GMT > I was very disappointed when I didn't get to have an all out fight with > Sephiroth, and I mean the Sephiroth who is truely powerful. It was > disappointing just using Cloud's last limit break to finish him off. But > the rest of the game makes up for it. Sephiroth isn't the real enemy, Jenova is. Sephiroth is weak without Jenova, and you've already defeated Jenova before that battle.
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