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Roddy - 03 Aug 2004 22:04 GMT
Is it true Square-Enix have come out and said they'd like to develop
software for Microsoft's next-gen console? I heard there's a possibility of
a FF title on it. Not sure about everyone else but I'm not convinced, they
seem quite happy with Sony but I may be wrong. Anyone else heard this?
Roddy - 03 Aug 2004 22:07 GMT
> Is it true Square-Enix have come out and said they'd like to develop
> software for Microsoft's next-gen console? I heard there's a possibility of
> a FF title on it. Not sure about everyone else but I'm not convinced, they
> seem quite happy with Sony but I may be wrong. Anyone else heard this?

Sorry forgot to post the link! Here it is:
http://microsoft.gamerfeed.com/gf/news/7038

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Zohar Gilboa - 03 Aug 2004 23:59 GMT
>Is it true Square-Enix have come out and said they'd like to develop
>software for Microsoft's next-gen console? I heard there's a possibility of
>a FF title on it. Not sure about everyone else but I'm not convinced, they
>seem quite happy with Sony but I may be wrong. Anyone else heard this?

I think the response from Squenix regarding the Xbox2 was something
along the lines of "it looks good and it might be interesting to
develop stuff for it".

The company already is making games for Nintendo consoles. They might
start making some for the XBox, I dunno...

Zohar "No, not the infinite power source" Gilboa
DJ Saltynuts - 04 Aug 2004 08:46 GMT
> >Is it true Square-Enix have come out and said they'd like to develop
> >software for Microsoft's next-gen console? I heard there's a possibility of
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>
> Zohar "No, not the infinite power source" Gilboa

I hope that they will make the games cross-platform, It will be hard
to afford 2 next gen consoles just to play FF's!

laters

Dj
Zohar Gilboa - 04 Aug 2004 18:29 GMT
>> >Is it true Square-Enix have come out and said they'd like to develop
>> >software for Microsoft's next-gen console? I heard there's a possibility of
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
>Dj

I doubt they'll make the mainstream FFs available for two platforms at
once - they never did that in the past. But there might be games like
FFCC.

Zohar "No, not the infinite power source" Gilboa
Ramen Junkie - 04 Aug 2004 04:18 GMT
> Is it true Square-Enix have come out and said they'd like to develop
> software for Microsoft's next-gen console? I heard there's a possibility of
> a FF title on it. Not sure about everyone else but I'm not convinced, they
> seem quite happy with Sony but I may be wrong. Anyone else heard this?

I'm not bothering with any of the next set of consoles.

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HitMan333 - 04 Aug 2004 16:53 GMT
>> Is it true Square-Enix have come out and said they'd like to develop
>> software for Microsoft's next-gen console? I heard there's a possibility
> of
>> a FF title on it. Not sure about everyone else but I'm not convinced, they
>> seem quite happy with Sony but I may be wrong. Anyone else heard this?
> I'm not bothering with any of the next set of consoles.

That's what they all say...

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Ramen Junkie - 05 Aug 2004 00:46 GMT
> >> Is it true Square-Enix have come out and said they'd like to develop
> >> software for Microsoft's next-gen console? I heard there's a possibility
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>
> That's what they all say...

Well, ok, I'm not bothering until FFX-4 comes out.

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DJ Saltynuts - 05 Aug 2004 11:46 GMT
> > >> Is it true Square-Enix have come out and said they'd like to develop
> > >> software for Microsoft's next-gen console? I heard there's a
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Well, ok, I'm not bothering until FFX-4 comes out.

Which means your first statement was correct then!

laters

dj
Michele Dall'Agata - 05 Aug 2004 12:03 GMT
>>> Is it true Square-Enix have come out and said they'd like to develop
>>> software for Microsoft's next-gen console? I heard there's a possibility
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> That's what they all say...

Maybe because it is true... PS2 and Xbox are still state of the art. Sure,
we can have ONE more impressive graphical improvement, but that is not
really needed to _play_. I don't think I will buy the next PS (PS3 Sony
announced for now) before at least 2 or 3 years after its release (and the
drammatic fall of its price). Well, unless my PS2 breaks down. After PS3 or
Xbox 2... what? 3D Hologram consoles?

Ciao,
Michele
Ramen Junkie - 05 Aug 2004 16:42 GMT
> >>> Is it true Square-Enix have come out and said they'd like to develop
> >>> software for Microsoft's next-gen console? I heard there's a possibility
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> drammatic fall of its price). Well, unless my PS2 breaks down. After PS3 or
> Xbox 2... what? 3D Hologram consoles?

Mostly I just feel games have become very boring and stagnant.

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DarkSheer - 05 Aug 2004 20:32 GMT
>>>>> Is it true Square-Enix have come out and said they'd like to
>>>>> develop software for Microsoft's next-gen console? I heard
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Mostly I just feel games have become very boring and stagnant.

They should make more SNES games.

Ryan (sprites rock)
Ramen Junkie - 05 Aug 2004 22:56 GMT
> >>>>> Is it true Square-Enix have come out and said they'd like to
> >>>>> develop software for Microsoft's next-gen console? I heard
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> They should make more SNES games.

Something like that.  Actually the ones I have are entertaining enough.  I
played through the Mega Man anniversary collection recently.  I've played
all of those games before but they were still a lot of fun.  Meanwhile I
can't find myself caring enough about Devil May Cry 2 or Medal of Honor to
finish either one.
DarkSheer - 06 Aug 2004 01:24 GMT
>>>>>>> Is it true Square-Enix have come out and said they'd like to
>>>>>>> develop software for Microsoft's next-gen console? I heard
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> a lot of fun.  Meanwhile I can't find myself caring enough about
> Devil May Cry 2 or Medal of Honor to finish either one.

Ya, they seem focused on makeing the games as real as possable, instead of
focusing on what's importaint.  Making it as fun as possable.  And ya, the
anniversary collection was great.

Ryan
Ramen Junkie - 06 Aug 2004 03:00 GMT
> >>>>>>> Is it true Square-Enix have come out and said they'd like to
> >>>>>>> develop software for Microsoft's next-gen console? I heard
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> focusing on what's importaint.  Making it as fun as possable.  And ya, the
> anniversary collection was great.

Yes.  also instead of making things difficult due to some minor puzzle or
trick which might require the programmer to think a bit, they just
artificially inflate the difficulty by doing things like:

All enemies simply run straight at you shooting/attacking.

Opponent racers always automatically run 5 MPH faster than you on the
"perfect track", no matter how badly that speed should f.ck up their ability
to take turns.

There are 50 enemies all at once.  They also all shoot rockets.

Enemies have unlimited ammo, you don't, even when using a weapon picked off
of a dead enemy (actually I don't think any game has limited enemy ammo, I
guess MP sort of counts as ammo).

Enemies take an excessive number of hits to kill.  Especially bad when the
enemy is easy to dodge/hit as this just makes the game get boring because
you're pounding away on the same guy for like an hour with no chance of
dying anyway.

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There are of course other things that I find annoying about newer games.
Story sequences and movies tend to be excessive.  Yay, ANOTHER 5 minute FMV
with lots of boring bad dialogue, when do I get to kill things again?

Lengthy boring plots with too many pointless subplots and branches and
"surprise" twists.  This could be OK if it were actually well done and not
predictable.  Besides, not every game requires a movie like plot to be fun.

Boring weapons and attacks.  Let's see, standard FPS arsenal, a knife of
some sort, a pistol or two (one of which is a revolver), three machine guns
that all function essentially identical, a shotgun, some sort of explosives
such as grenades, somehting that shoots explosives like a rocket launcher,
two or three useless "alien guns", one overpowered super alien rocket
launcher weapon.   Each of these weapons should ahve some useless form of
alternate fire.

Going the other way on the point of games with excessive plots, RPGS need to
do away with random encounters.  Less fighting, more story/boss battles.

Boring level design plagues games of today.  I've played a ton of 2D games,
I've played a ton of 3D games.  I am getting really god damn sick of 3D
environments.  This probably also stems from the idea of games trying to be
uber realistic.  They all just end up comming off as clones.

Mostly as far as my interest in the PS3, I know everytime I look through the
PS2 games I can't find anything that looks even remotely interesting.  I've
kept my Ps2 collection pretty minimal overall.  For a long while I joked how
the first games I bought were FFX, MGS2, and GTA3 and how the next games I
would buy in a year would be FFXI, MGS3, and GTA4.  Nothing else seemed
exciting enough to care about.  (NOTE: FFXI turned int FFX-2 pretty
quickly),

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Michele Dall'Agata - 06 Aug 2004 09:44 GMT
>> Something like that.  Actually the ones I have are entertaining
>> enough.  I played through the Mega Man anniversary collection
>> recently.  I've played all of those games before but they were still
>> a lot of fun.  Meanwhile I can't find myself caring enough about
>> Devil May Cry 2 or Medal of Honor to finish either one.

> Ya, they seem focused on makeing the games as real as possable, instead of
> focusing on what's importaint.  Making it as fun as possable.  And ya, the
> anniversary collection was great.

Yeah... I am starting to have the same feelings. I am addicted only to FF
games. I tried to play back Tomb Raider... shite. Medal of Honour... boring.
MGS2.. Same thing. Clock Tower 3... Boff...

I mean, they are all great, but there is not playback. Once you have done
it, forget it. They are more like interactive movies. But it is also true I
do not play arcades. Probably there are some great ones around. And
soccer/sport games are supposed to be great as well, if you like the genre.
Well, maybe an era is getting over. Let's go back playing doctor with the
girls. :-D

Ciao,
Michele
Chriz - 21 Aug 2004 09:06 GMT
Once upon a time Ramen Junkie decided to write:

>> Maybe because it is true... PS2 and Xbox are still state of the art.
>> Sure, we can have ONE more impressive graphical improvement, but
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Mostly I just feel games have become very boring and stagnant.

Maybe you're just growing out of them.

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