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Game Forum / Role Playing Games / Fallout / November 2003Is this newsgroup dead yet?
just wondering if anything new is happening in the world of fallout. >just wondering if anything new is happening in the world of fallout. Fallout 3 objective commented on by a Black Isle employee. "I can say it doesn't have to do with questing for a mysterious artifact, or water chip, or a GECK." http://forums.interplay.com/viewtopic.php?t=33142 Black Isle employee talks about the censoring in Fallout 3. http://forums.interplay.com/viewtopic.php?t=33047 IGN has an interview with Silver Style about their own post apocalyptic RPG called The Fall. http://rpgvault.ign.com/articles/456/456967p1.html There is lot's of news, just check out No Mutants allowed. http://www.nma-fallout.com The newsgroup might be quiet, even silent, but it isn't dead yet. Simply dormant for when F3 is released. > >just wondering if anything new is happening in the world of fallout. > The newsgroup might be quiet, even silent, but it isn't dead yet. > Simply dormant for when F3 is released. Lots of people are still lurking. Fallout and Fallout 2 have pretty well been played out by most of us (and one or two times through BOS), so what's left to discuss until Fallout 3 gets near release? _.--""--._ On ." ". Sun, 2 Nov 2003 13:10:53 -0500 | . ` ` | in \( )/ alt.games.fallout, \)__. _._(/ Homer // >..< \\ spoke |__.' vv '.__/ 11 l'''"''l lines \_ _/ to _ )--( _ the | '--.__)--(_.--' | great \ |`----''----'| / undead || `-' '--' || skeleton || `--' '--' || god |l `--'--'--' |l of |__|`--' `--'|__| giant | | )-( | | ascii || )-( \|| who || __ )_( __ \\ replied... ||' `- -' \ \\ ||\_ `-' _/ |_\ /_\ _)J-._.-L( /`-\ |`- I_)O /\ O( `--l\\\| ||||( `-' `-') .-' ||| \\\ \ / / /// \ \ / / \ \ / / / \ / \ |_()I()._| \ /\ / | / \ | | | \ \ | | \ \ | | \ \ | |-nabis\ \_ | | /-._\ |.-.\ //.-._) \\\\ /// \\\\-''' ``'' >> >just wondering if anything new is happening in the world of fallout. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >played out by most of us (and one or two times through BOS), so what's left to >discuss until Fallout 3 gets near release? Let's discuss FO3 plots again. The end of FO2 is too peaceful. I suggest the NCR gets attacked by another superpower coming from Mexico or down from Canada and all sorts of sh.t gets blown up and all the proper troops blow the f.ck out of each other on the front lines leaving few to keep order back home. | _ .\ ~~ _ ^~ | <')_,/ , ; .\ >(')__, . ` ' , | (_~=/ \._`.'. .\ (_~_/ _, _..-''-._,____,----,____ | ='- \=~_) ; .\ ~^~~^~ ` (_~_/ `'--'` `~~~~)_)=\_\-.( | -'= .\ ~^~ ~^~~^~ ICQ:11367619 EMAIL:bateau:-)jupiter-io.net WEB:http://tyrian2000.cjb.net > _.--""--._ On > ." ". Sun, 2 Nov 2003 13:10:53 -0500 [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > of sh.t gets blown up and all the proper troops blow the f.ck out of > each other on the front lines leaving few to keep order back home. Oooh.. make the RCMP into a major in game power... along the lines of the Brother Hood of Steel... you could call the game GRC. Well, looks like it will be soon (dead), or be truely nothing more than another vintage forum for die-hard fans... As if it wasn't already... But most here living on a dream that is called fallout "3", and will probably have to wave goodbye to that, or let it be ruined by a company that is being kept afloat by nothing but hot air... Our absolute (in my opinion) last remaining hope, JE Sawyer, quit Black Isle Studios... > Our absolute (in my opinion) last remaining hope, JE Sawyer, quit Black Isle > Studios... Well, maybe there is a *little* hope: This thread from NMA and the forum still leaves the possibility that it will be completed... http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2781 http://forums.interplay.com/viewtopic.php?p=591797#591797 extract... Puuk wrote: JE leaving was a big blow for all of us on the project, no way around it. However, the stuff he was working on, the technical side of the project (rules, interfaces, etc.), is nearly complete (I think there are only two more interfaces that need to be done, and they are simple ones). Josh made sure that part, the part he was responsible for, was done by the time he left, and I think that is a huge example of his integrity and his passion for doing a great job. The story and areas for VB have been finished for a few months now, so his input has been received and applied. We are currently building maps and writing dialogues. Sean Reynolds has been creative lead almost since MCA left and has been doing a very fine job of making sure we knows hwo ta write good. On a personal note, I have really enjoyed working with Josh, and have been very impressed watching him grow into a great lead designer. He is a person who learns from his triumphs and mistakes and grows from those lessons - and in this industry, that's almost impossible to find. He knows when to step in and when to step back, and knows how to empower his employees. He brings a lot to BIS and will be sorely missed. I wish him good luck in his future venture (no, it's not Obsidian) and I know he will develop great things when he gets there. And VB keeps on chugging along... -Homer > Well, looks like it will be soon (dead), or be truely nothing more than > another vintage forum for die-hard fans... As if it wasn't already... But [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Our absolute (in my opinion) last remaining hope, JE Sawyer, quit Black Isle > Studios... The melodrama never ends. That's not a comment on whether FO3 will be good or bad, just on the fans who talk about it.  SignatureElizabeth D. Brooks | kali.magdalene@comcast.net | US2002021724 Listowner: Aberrants_Worldwide, Fading_Suns_Games, TrinityRPG AeonAdventure | "Dobby likes us!" -- Smeagol -- http://www.theonering.net/scrapbook/view/6856 >>Well, looks like it will be soon (dead), or be truely nothing more than >>another vintage forum for die-hard fans... As if it wasn't already... But [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > That's not a comment on whether FO3 will be good or bad, just on the > fans who talk about it. To one and all. Well the drama keeps us circling back to a.g.fallout. How long we dwell on the story is optional. Attention spans vary. Do you have any gaming suggestions that would enhance our mutual appreciation of RPG's? Expect renewed interest in Win titles after long lotus-eating spell in the Mac cocoon. Clash and crash of critical updates. Right now I'm fighting an abandoned XP system, plug pulled pre MSblast. No see-able hardware conflict. Slash and burn strategy on adware and cookies to ferret out trojans was too drastic. Looks like time for a f disk and a clean install. New or old. Love to rummage in the bargain bins, so what brave new apocalypses would you offer for our attention? 4too > The melodrama never ends. > > That's not a comment on whether FO3 will be good or bad, just on the > fans who talk about it. I might have overdone it a little... But seriously though, when you give a completely and entirely new team a job to remake a game in the spirit of the old, undisireable changes always happens and often they ruin everything... We've come to expect a lot, a good game must continue to be good... And it would have been easier if interplay had been full of cash, so it's hard not to be sceptical about the future. > > The melodrama never ends. > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > would have been easier if interplay had been full of cash, so it's hard not > to be sceptical about the future. Reasonably put. But, as someone else posted, Josh pretty much finished his part of the game before leaving BIS, so it's not so much a sign about VB. About BIS, sure. I would hesitate to agree that new times often ruin everything, or that undesirable changes always happen, however. They certainly do happen, but I can only think of a few cases where this is actually true. SignatureElizabeth D. Brooks | kali.magdalene@comcast.net | US2002021724 Listowner: Aberrants_Worldwide, Fading_Suns_Games, TrinityRPG AeonAdventure | "Dobby likes us!" -- Smeagol -- http://www.theonering.net/scrapbook/view/6856 > I would hesitate to agree that new times often ruin everything, or that > undesirable changes always happen, however. They certainly do happen, > but I can only think of a few cases where this is actually true. And I can't think of any where it isn't... (might be because I'm a half-empty kind of person) Some of my most favorite games too: fallout FOT and FOBOS... xcom (aftermath)... monkey island and a long string of other lucas arts games... and probably a dozen more. It's obviously tougher when games like these, as the original games have Huge fan groups, demands great quality. But it is really quite rarely filled when the teams have changed entirely... Heck, it's not even too often the sequels turn out good even when the developers haven't changed... Mostly it's just a question of funding... The best games are often funded independently, but they need producers' extra cash to handle packing and distribution. Completing the first game, which often does well, they are then taken under their wing and paid a regular salary, usually with tiny teams, and yet expected to deliver in very short time. After this it's a do-or die business... and mostly it's just die... With people quitting left and right BIS is dying, and their games with them... Personally I think the BIS division would be better off, sold off. Not better for interplay though. At the moment, since Lionhart came out, which got some decent hype but didn't really deliver in my opinion, I'm almost looking more forward to whatever Brian Fargo can do with the wasteland license than to fallout3, sadly... but hey... don't let me such a spoilsport, it may yet turn out well, maybe we should stay positive eh... A possible FO3 demo in the works, yay. I still read this thing like once a week, although I've never replied and have no plans... Omg I screwed up maybe I could just... --damn too late. > just wondering if anything new is happening in the world of fallout. > I still read this thing like once a week, although I've never replied and > have no plans... Omg I screwed up maybe I could just... --damn too late. It's not too late, you can still go months without another post. SignatureElizabeth D. Brooks | kali.magdalene@comcast.net | US2002021724 Listowner: Aberrants_Worldwide, Fading_Suns_Games, TrinityRPG AeonAdventure | "Dobby likes us!" -- Smeagol -- http://www.theonering.net/scrapbook/view/6856 _.--""--._ On ." ". Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:30:39 GMT | . ` ` | in \( )/ alt.games.fallout, \)__. _._(/ Julie d'Aubigny // >..< \\ spoke |__.' vv '.__/ 12 l'''"''l lines \_ _/ to _ )--( _ the | '--.__)--(_.--' | great \ |`----''----'| / undead || `-' '--' || skeleton || `--' '--' || god |l `--'--'--' |l of |__|`--' `--'|__| giant | | )-( | | ascii || )-( \|| who || __ )_( __ \\ replied... ||' `- -' \ \\ ||\_ `-' _/ |_\ /_\ _)J-._.-L( /`-\ |`- I_)O /\ O( `--l\\\| ||||( `-' `-') .-' ||| \\\ \ / / /// \ \ / / \ \ / / / \ / \ |_()I()._| \ /\ / | / \ | | | \ \ | | \ \ | | \ \ | |-nabis\ \_ | | /-._\ |.-.\ //.-._) \\\\ /// \\\\-''' ``'' >> I still read this thing like once a week, although I've never replied and >> have no plans... Omg I screwed up maybe I could just... --damn too late. > >It's not too late, you can still go months without another post. Hey baby don't I know you from a rape group? Or maybe it's one of those games ones. 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