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How about Fallout 3?? ehh?:)

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Micha³ Szmitkowski - 26 Mar 2005 11:21 GMT
I was thinking about continuation of this great game. I wonder if there is
any possibility that Black Isle will decide to make Fallout 3. Or maybe
there are some rumors about it?
IgwanaRob - 26 Mar 2005 16:14 GMT
In an effort to amuse and confuse me, Micha³ Szmitkowski blurted out :

> I was thinking about continuation of this great game. I wonder if
> there is any possibility that Black Isle will decide to make Fallout
> 3. Or maybe there are some rumors about it?

Black Isle is no more - they were closed down in 12/03 while working on
Fallout 3. A few months later Bethesda , the guys that did Morrowind, bought
the license are are currently working on a new version of Fallout 3

http://www.rpgdot.com/index.php?hsaction=10077&newsid=23955

http://www.shacknews.com/docs/press/071204_fallout3.x

http://www.telefragged.com/interviews/fallout3/

(dozens more all over the net)

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opus007 - 27 Mar 2005 06:02 GMT
Fallout 2 was such a great game.  Am hoping that Bethesda can complete a
game that is even 1/2 of FO2.

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> In an effort to amuse and confuse me, Micha³ Szmitkowski blurted out :
>
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>
> (dozens more all over the net)
Julie Warden - 28 Mar 2005 08:46 GMT
Unfortunalely, I've been hearing about FO3 for a good 4 years now...
I though Blizzard was slow releasing games - heeheehee.
Julie

>Fallout 2 was such a great game.  Am hoping that Bethesda can complete a
>game that is even 1/2 of FO2.
Bateau - 28 Mar 2005 12:47 GMT
>Fallout 2 was such a great game.  Am hoping that Bethesda can complete a
>game that is even 1/2 of FO2.

Fallout 2 is crap.
Fallout 1 was based on a great post apocalyptic future from a retro
viewpoint.
With Fallout 2 forgot about that original viewpoint and based it on
Fallout 1. They added no cool new visions of the future and it ended up
with significantly less than Fallout 1 did.
Julie Warden - 29 Mar 2005 00:27 GMT
>>Fallout 2 was such a great game.  Am hoping that Bethesda can complete a
>>game that is even 1/2 of FO2.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>Fallout 1. They added no cool new visions of the future and it ended up
>with significantly less than Fallout 1 did.

I tried to buy FO1 with FO2, they offered them both as a package for
about $20US, but the store was out of them, so I just bought FO2.
Bateau - 29 Mar 2005 03:29 GMT
>>>Fallout 2 was such a great game.  Am hoping that Bethesda can complete a
>>>game that is even 1/2 of FO2.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>I tried to buy FO1 with FO2, they offered them both as a package for
>about $20US, but the store was out of them, so I just bought FO2.

Doesn't Interplay sell them both for $10 or something?
Julie Warden - 29 Mar 2005 06:31 GMT
>>>>Fallout 2 was such a great game.  Am hoping that Bethesda can complete a
>>>>game that is even 1/2 of FO2.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>Doesn't Interplay sell them both for $10 or something?

They may indeed.  I bought this about 4 years ago :)  By the way, it's
nice to see one of the last holdouts here.  

Were the graphics in FO1 decent?  Just curious.
4too - 29 Mar 2005 17:43 GMT
>>>>>Fallout 2 was such a great game.  Am hoping that Bethesda can complete a
>>>>>game that is even 1/2 of FO2.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Were the graphics in FO1 decent?  Just curious.

FO1 graphics are  'good enough' for what it is still.  ""THE GAME"" is
still the THING to hook our attention.  The trendy-hip-modern-top
drawer-groovey-kewl  3D 'particle effects' we are allegedly addicted to,
should not spoil the FO1 experience.  You will be able to highlight
those small items of necessity, like, the 10 mm ammo and stim packs
hiding in the piles of bones in the Scorpions' cave.

It's not like the 'horror' of -- going home -- , that replaying
''Wasteland''' might be, until the mental adjustment is made to regress
to DOS CGA-EGA.

Getting The FO's from Interplay?
As far as I know, the last (FRENCH) man standing at Interplay has
neglected this possible revenue, trickle, if he 'could', still be
businessman enough to, offer the FO's for direct sale.

The Mac ports, for OS 10, are still of around, not sure if Macplay still
offers FO1 at their site. Expect to pay 15 to 30 dollars depending on
the source.

I have been replaying the Mac ports.  There are convenience improvements
in the FO2 interface that one must 'forgive' in FO1.

To save my saves for different characters, because of my limited
knowledge of 'Mac' OS I've been dragging and dropping the 500 meg file
to another hard drive file or CD. In these days of cheap CD's and
gigabytes of hard drive space, it's an easy solution to playing parallel
 games of differing hero types.

Even if you have limited time to spend.  Don't access the number of
interesting walkthroughs until you've blundered through FO1 at least once.

The true stunning impact is the ... end.   This is the level of story
telling that the Diablo-Half Life-Ever Quest want-a-be's will never,

....  beg, borrow, or steal.

4too
4too - 29 Mar 2005 17:46 GMT
>>>>>Fallout 2 was such a great game.  Am hoping that Bethesda can complete a
>>>>>game that is even 1/2 of FO2.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Were the graphics in FO1 decent?  Just curious.

FO1 graphics are  'good enough' for what it is still.  ""THE GAME"" is
still the THING to hook our attention.  The trendy-hip-modern-top
drawer-groovey-kewl  3D 'particle effects' we are allegedly addicted to,
should not spoil the FO1 experience.  You will be able to highlight
those small items of necessity, like, the 10 mm ammo and stim packs
hiding in the piles of bones in the Scorpions' cave.

It's not like the 'horror' of -- going home -- , that replaying
''Wasteland''' might be, until the mental adjustment is made to regress
to DOS CGA-EGA.

Getting The FO's from Interplay?
As far as I know, the last (FRENCH) man standing at Interplay has
neglected this possible revenue, trickle, if he 'could', still be
businessman enough to, offer the FO's for direct sale.

The Mac ports, for OS 10, are still around, not sure if Macplay still
offers FO1 at their site. Expect to pay 15 to 30 dollars depending on
the source.

I have been replaying the Mac ports.  There are convenience improvements
in the FO2 interface that one must 'forgive' in FO1.

To save my saves for different characters, because of my limited
knowledge of 'Mac' OS I've been dragging and dropping the 500 meg file
to another hard drive file or CD. In these days of cheap CD's and
gigabytes of hard drive space, it's an easy solution to playing parallel
 games of differing hero types.

Even if you have limited time to spend.  Don't access the number of
interesting walkthroughs until you've blundered through FO1 at least once.

The true stunning impact is the ... end.   This is the level of story
telling that the Diablo-Half Life-Ever Quest want-a-be's will never,

....  beg, borrow, or steal.

4too
Big McLargehuge - 29 Mar 2005 19:19 GMT
>>>>>Fallout 2 was such a great game.  Am hoping that Bethesda can complete a
>>>>>game that is even 1/2 of FO2.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
>Were the graphics in FO1 decent?  Just curious.

pretty much the same, I don't think they tweaked the graphics engine
to make FO2, just a few UI and functionality enhancements. Otherwise,
everything looks the same. Which isn't a bad thing, IMHO :)
Bateau - 01 Apr 2005 16:30 GMT
>>>>>Fallout 2 was such a great game.  Am hoping that Bethesda can complete a
>>>>>game that is even 1/2 of FO2.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
>Were the graphics in FO1 decent?  Just curious.

They are exactly the same. Fallout 2 uses the same engine as Fallout 1
with some minor changes. Almost all of the Fallout 2 graphics are from
Fallout 1. Many of the new graphics they made for Fallout 2 are UTTER
sh.t in comparison. Eg have you noticed how the big guys from the
casinos look like they're made of plastic and fall over like mannequins
when they die? They weren't in Fallout 1.
Andy Johnson - 29 Mar 2005 07:34 GMT
>>Fallout 2 was such a great game.  Am hoping that Bethesda can complete a
>>game that is even 1/2 of FO2.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Fallout 1. They added no cool new visions of the future and it ended up
> with significantly less than Fallout 1 did.

Fallout 2 was NOT crap. Maybe compared to F1, but everything else is
too. It just wasn't new. You can think of it as a large, pretty good
expansion to F1. There were certainly no innovations or new things, but
why should there be? Fallout 1 was plenty good. You don't have to always
add new things to every game. F2 did greatly refine the game mechanics,
in such things as the overpowered stealing and barter in F1.

I, for one, would be absolutely content to play Fallout 3 if it's just
more of Fallout 1. It could be the same time period, everything. Maybe
move the setting to New York State, so there doesn't even have to be any
overlap between the stories. Even the old engine would be fine, though
higher allowed resolution would go a long way.
Bateau - 01 Apr 2005 16:30 GMT
>>>Fallout 2 was such a great game.  Am hoping that Bethesda can complete a
>>>game that is even 1/2 of FO2.
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>too. It just wasn't new. You can think of it as a large, pretty good
>expansion to F1.

It's not even good as an expansion.

>There were certainly no innovations or new things, but
>why should there be?

Because their failure to do so made Fallout 2 seem stale.

>Fallout 1 was plenty good. You don't have to always
>add new things to every game. F2 did greatly refine the game mechanics,
>in such things as the overpowered stealing and barter in F1.

What's the point in fixing the engine if it's not behind a decent game?

>I, for one, would be absolutely content to play Fallout 3 if it's just
>more of Fallout 1. It could be the same time period, everything. Maybe
>move the setting to New York State, so there doesn't even have to be any
>overlap between the stories. Even the old engine would be fine, though
>higher allowed resolution would go a long way.
Frost - 04 Apr 2005 21:25 GMT
> >>>Fallout 2 was such a great game.  Am hoping that Bethesda can complete a
> >>>game that is even 1/2 of FO2.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> It's not even good as an expansion.

In your opinion.  I thought it was a good game.  Not as good as FO1,
and I wish they would have stuck more with the "wasteland" theme with
low technology, but overall I thought it was ok.

> >There were certainly no innovations or new things, but
> >why should there be?
>
> Because their failure to do so made Fallout 2 seem stale.

Again, in your opinion.

> >Fallout 1 was plenty good. You don't have to always
> >add new things to every game. F2 did greatly refine the game mechanics,
> >in such things as the overpowered stealing and barter in F1.
>
> What's the point in fixing the engine if it's not behind a decent game?

Again, in your opinion.  You almost sound like those pricks from the
No Mutants Allowed Web site.

> >I, for one, would be absolutely content to play Fallout 3 if it's just
> >more of Fallout 1. It could be the same time period, everything. Maybe
> >move the setting to New York State, so there doesn't even have to be any
> >overlap between the stories. Even the old engine would be fine, though
> >higher allowed resolution would go a long way.
Andy Johnson - 05 Apr 2005 03:01 GMT
>>>Fallout 1 was plenty good. You don't have to always
>>>add new things to every game. F2 did greatly refine the game mechanics,
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Again, in your opinion.  You almost sound like those pricks from the
> No Mutants Allowed Web site.

Hey now. I think it's pretty obvious it's eir opinion. I certainly think
F1 was a better game, but I'd still rather play F2 despite owning both.
I don't so much care about the right setting or story (not like it's
'new and interesting' after beating it ten times anyway) as I do about
the game mechanics, and F1 is just too aggrivating it some aspects.
Bateau - 05 Apr 2005 11:14 GMT
>> >>>Fallout 2 was such a great game.  Am hoping that Bethesda can complete a
>> >>>game that is even 1/2 of FO2.
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>
>Again, in your opinion.

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"USENET POSTS ARE OPINIONS."
MORE AT THE SIX O'CLOCK NEWS.

>> >Fallout 1 was plenty good. You don't have to always
>> >add new things to every game. F2 did greatly refine the game mechanics,
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>Again, in your opinion.  You almost sound like those pricks from the
>No Mutants Allowed Web site.

Are they also in the habit of having opinions?

>> >I, for one, would be absolutely content to play Fallout 3 if it's just
>> >more of Fallout 1. It could be the same time period, everything. Maybe
>> >move the setting to New York State, so there doesn't even have to be any
>> >overlap between the stories. Even the old engine would be fine, though
>> >higher allowed resolution would go a long way.
DL - 09 Apr 2005 08:42 GMT
> >Fallout 2 was such a great game.  Am hoping that Bethesda can complete a
> >game that is even 1/2 of FO2.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Fallout 1. They added no cool new visions of the future and it ended up
> with significantly less than Fallout 1 did.

I played both FO1 & 2 and in my opinion Fo2 is much better than 1. But
that's maybe because I played Fo2 first.
 
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